Starting problem
stealth71203
11-25-2006, 03:29 PM
I am having a problem starting my 1991 Dodge Stealth. I bought it with this problem, and it has never started since I had it towed to my home. The car has about 178,000 miles on it. The previous battery in it would not hold a charge; therefore, I bought a blem battery. I'm not sure of the CCA. I used starting fluid one day to give it a boost. It seemed like it slightly tried to start, but it did not. I believe that the fuel pump is working since I smelled the typical gas smell when you try to pump the accelerator and start the vehicle. The vehicle was sitting up for awhile before I bought it two months ago.
miami3000gt
11-25-2006, 03:31 PM
so is there a spark? does the engine turn over?
VR43000GT
11-25-2006, 04:48 PM
It is more than likely going to be something electrical. My first guess is a bad/broken connection somewhere along the line. If you have spark it should have started with starting fluid momentarily. Pull one or two plugs out and see if you are in fact getting spark. If you are then it is probably timing related. Otherwise it is possible you could have bad injectors but I do not see that as being the problem.
jason_bet
11-25-2006, 08:53 PM
when you put the key on do you here the fuel pump kick on for a second? maybe change your fuel filter and turn the key while its not conected and see if you squirt fuel.. if you dont.. then you know.. if you do.. then you know and you have done somthing you probubly needed to do anyway.. i agree that it is probubly electrical if you used starting fluid and it didnt start.. sl3000 has the right idea with pulling a plug or two to find out.. also just check your plug and wires on your CAS.. mine came loose once
stealth71203
11-28-2006, 08:39 PM
I pulled a few spark plug wires, and I used a screwdriver to try and get a spark. I did not get a spark. Also, I tried to get the ICM(Ignition Control Module) checked, but the testing was somewhat inconclusive. They ran a check on it at the auto parts store, and it passed six out of the seven tests. The break circuit test was the only one that did not pass. I'm trying not to buy a part that I may not need since I cannot return it if the ICM is not the problem. Could this possibly prevent the vehicle from starting. Any ideas out there?
miami3000gt
11-28-2006, 08:54 PM
try ignition , and starter
ur problem is most likely electrical
ur problem is most likely electrical
Igovert500
11-29-2006, 12:19 PM
Does it crank and just not start, or nothing?
Does it click click click click and not start?
I'm guessing it cranks and just wont start, probably due to no spark...
Find out whether there is no spark on all cylinders or just some.
Also, check your ignition coil, your CAS, check resistance on your plug wires, and I'd probably replace the plugs no matter what ($6 NGK coppers)
Does it click click click click and not start?
I'm guessing it cranks and just wont start, probably due to no spark...
Find out whether there is no spark on all cylinders or just some.
Also, check your ignition coil, your CAS, check resistance on your plug wires, and I'd probably replace the plugs no matter what ($6 NGK coppers)
stealth71203
11-29-2006, 12:34 PM
It makes a cranking sound, but it does not start. There is no clicking at all. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Igovert500
11-29-2006, 12:36 PM
Spark on any cylinders?
porscheman9101
11-29-2006, 01:00 PM
towed it home never herd it run? could be a broken timing belt, does it sound like a normal engine crank or does it sound like it is freewheeling???
stealth71203
11-29-2006, 01:56 PM
It basically sounds like a normal engine crank without a catch sound of it getting power about to start. It basically sounds like a vehicle would if it was out of gas...trying to start. I had the ICM(Ignition Control Module) checked, but it failed one of the seven tests. I had them to do the same test on a new ICM, and it pass all seven of the tests. I pulled about three of the spark plug wires and I did not get a spark last night. Again I appreciate any help that I can get.
Igovert500
11-29-2006, 02:23 PM
Get it out of hte shop/autoparts store, diagnose yourself. Don't buy parts from them, you can probably get parts cheaper somewhere else, either used or online.
Change your plugs (http://www.stealth316.com/2-sparkchange.htm). It's cheap and easy. NGK coppers for now, a buck a piece.
Check resistance of your wires.
Checking coils (http://www.stealth316.com/2-ignitioncoils.htm) ...hence why I asked if you are getting spark on ANY of the 6 cylinders???
Checking PTU (http://www.stealth316.com/2-pwrtransunit.htm)
If that all checks out, try your CAS (http://www.stealth316.com/2-cas-91-92.htm)
Change your plugs (http://www.stealth316.com/2-sparkchange.htm). It's cheap and easy. NGK coppers for now, a buck a piece.
Check resistance of your wires.
Checking coils (http://www.stealth316.com/2-ignitioncoils.htm) ...hence why I asked if you are getting spark on ANY of the 6 cylinders???
Checking PTU (http://www.stealth316.com/2-pwrtransunit.htm)
If that all checks out, try your CAS (http://www.stealth316.com/2-cas-91-92.htm)
Linebckr49
11-29-2006, 11:30 PM
Get it out of hte shop/autoparts store, diagnose yourself. Don't buy parts from them, you can probably get parts cheaper somewhere else, either used or online.
Change your plugs (http://www.stealth316.com/2-sparkchange.htm). It's cheap and easy. NGK coppers for now, a buck a piece.
Check resistance of your wires.
Checking coils (http://www.stealth316.com/2-ignitioncoils.htm) ...hence why I asked if you are getting spark on ANY of the 6 cylinders???
Checking PTU (http://www.stealth316.com/2-pwrtransunit.htm)
If that all checks out, try your CAS (http://www.stealth316.com/2-cas-91-92.htm)
excellent advice! don't trust a shop to work on your car, and don't trust an auto parts store to properly/sufficiently test a part. you can do the work yourself, its pretty simple, and we're here to help you along in the process and answer any questions you have.
as for all the things Igovert suggested to check, here's on more to add to the list: Check Timing (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=4232374&postcount=23).
Change your plugs (http://www.stealth316.com/2-sparkchange.htm). It's cheap and easy. NGK coppers for now, a buck a piece.
Check resistance of your wires.
Checking coils (http://www.stealth316.com/2-ignitioncoils.htm) ...hence why I asked if you are getting spark on ANY of the 6 cylinders???
Checking PTU (http://www.stealth316.com/2-pwrtransunit.htm)
If that all checks out, try your CAS (http://www.stealth316.com/2-cas-91-92.htm)
excellent advice! don't trust a shop to work on your car, and don't trust an auto parts store to properly/sufficiently test a part. you can do the work yourself, its pretty simple, and we're here to help you along in the process and answer any questions you have.
as for all the things Igovert suggested to check, here's on more to add to the list: Check Timing (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=4232374&postcount=23).
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