Rivalry between american automaker enthusiasts

I understand the Rivalry between Ford, Chevy and Dodge, but what I don't understand are the fans of the cars. Especially the big Chevy vs Ford war. If you know something about the subject I'd like to hear your opinion. All I can say is that from hanging around chevy owners, I may never drive a ford and I don't know why, or a dodge. Doesn't mean I don't want to.

It's stupid. They're all equally wonderful. Quit bitching and be happy you have so much of 'em.

It's stupid. They're all equally wonderful. Quit bitching and be happy you have so much of 'em.

Trust me, it goes deeper than that.

It's stupid. They're all equally wonderful. Quit bitching and be happy you have so much of 'em.

I agree.

I was born into a Mopar family and that is where my preference lies when it comes to muscle cars but it's not to say that I wouln't buy a Ford or Chevy. There are cars from them that I would like to own. There are a horde of cars from foreign manufactures that I would love to own.

I never can understand the mustang vs camaro argument. I can totally understand how you can prefer one over the other, but I don't see how you can love one and hate the other. They are both pretty similar when it comes down to it. I love them both.

It's just like the Ford vs Holden debate I had when growing up (With Chrysler Australia the third party for a bit until they folded in the early 80's), it's pretty much moronic and blind brand worship, because for the most part the cars were both crap until very recently.

Trust me, it goes deeper than that.

Yeah i know.. And it's Saab vs Volvo here. Just the immaturity of the human mind i guess. Just need to take a stand for something, how meaningless it may be.

The Chevy vs Ford vs Dodge situation here is alot different. Ford has a really bad name, because the Fords we have are german Fords. (Mondeos, Escorts, Fiestas...), wich are not popular among car enthusiasts. Mustangs are reffered to as just Mustangs, not Ford Mustang.

Chevy and Dodge both have a cultural nostalgic image here, since the Raggar culture breakout. And the list of marketed chevy's and dodge's here are short. The Chevy's I see on the roads are S10's, Tahoes, Astros, afew Camaros and afew Suburbans. Dodge's are RAM's, 90's - 00's Pickups i dont know the names of, and Magnums.

as far as who makes the best performing cars im gonna have to with gm. ford and dodge for the most part just put big engines in a tank and call it a sports car. not to say theyre not good looking or anything else but from a total performance perspective they are usually inferior. where as gm makes cars that can compete on a track with the likes of porsche and other top notch makers. now, would any of this stop me from buying one or the other? no, i dont give a damn who makes the car, a nice car is a nice car.

as far as who makes the best performing cars im gonna have to with gm. ford and dodge for the most part just put big engines in a tank and call it a sports car. not to say theyre not good looking or anything else but from a total performance perspective they are usually inferior. where as gm makes cars that can compete on a track with the likes of porsche and other top notch makers. now, would any of this stop me from buying one or the other? no, i dont give a damn who makes the car, a nice car is a nice car.

Are you sure? The chargers run in NASCAR, The viper used to run in LeMans, and currently the S7R is in lemans and Fia GT.

as far as who makes the best performing cars im gonna have to with gm. ford and dodge for the most part just put big engines in a tank and call it a sports car. not to say theyre not good looking or anything else but from a total performance perspective they are usually inferior. where as gm makes cars that can compete on a track with the likes of porsche and other top notch makers. now, would any of this stop me from buying one or the other? no, i dont give a damn who makes the car, a nice car is a nice car.


This translates to..... I like chevy for the corvette.

Are you sure? The chargers run in NASCAR, The viper used to run in LeMans, and currently the S7R is in lemans and Fia GT.


like i said, i wasnt applying this to all dodges. yes the viper is superb. but the charger is just a pig without major work. it gets mauled by cars in the price bracket below it on a track. not to mention the toyota camry and ford 500 also ru in nascar, does this mean they are great performance cars? plus what they run in nascar and what you buy from the dealer are 2 waaaayyyy different cars. the nascar charger is just a stock car with a fiberglass shell that says charger on it.

This translates to..... I like chevy for the corvette.


not really, the corvette is not the only car that can blister others around a track. look at the cobalt ss which beat the mustang gt around a track, and one with a lot of straightaways too. look at the solstice gtp which got a better lap time in a magazine test than the boxter s. there are plenty of gm cars that can hand the other 2 domestic makers their asses on track day.

Look at the mustang GT which will dust the cobalt in a straight line. I don't care what a race track says, a dragstrip will tell you ever time that the mustang wins. Ford has the GT, and as long as we are talking about cars we can't afford I will quote the GT's performance specs.

I use to hate ford, then i got a cougar , lol. And now that i think of it, i dont know why i hated ford. So i pretty much like all cars for what they are now. Fords, chevys, dodges are all pretty much equal in my book.

Look at the mustang GT which will dust the cobalt in a straight line. I don't care what a race track says, a dragstrip will tell you ever time that the mustang wins. Ford has the GT, and as long as we are talking about cars we can't afford I will quote the GT's performance specs.


thats good and all but the dragstrip is not a total test of performance, it is only one dimension of performance. it totally disregards handling and braking which is what defines a true sports car, along with acceleration. and as far as the ford gt goes, sure it has great performance but for over twice the price of the corvette zo6 it is still lucky to even keep up. like i said i dont hate ford or dodge, i dont even dislike them. i just have a preferance for gm, and the reason is what i stated before.

You're leaving out Cadillac, and the CTS-Vs, and XLR-Vs with the LS6 or the Northstar engine. These are fine sports cars that race also. In my opinion they should be in more race series.

We're talking much race performance here, what about functionality and reliability? Enlight me.

We're talking much race performance here, what about functionality and reliability? Enlight me.


id have to give reliability to ford though. and functionality to d/c.

id have to give reliability to ford though. and functionality to d/c.

There's another first, from what I've heard fords break down more, but I've never owned a ford so i can say. We really should stop fighting.

If you want a reliable Ford, get a RWD one. My Crown Vic is great, and they last well over 200k miles. Mine has 100k and drives almost like new. Their trucks are also good. My friend had a late 80s V6 Ranger that he inherited from his Dad with 250k miles on it. He proceeded to beat the living CRAP out of it. He didn't know until I told him that you are supposed to let off the gas when you shift. He also did redline clutch-drop burnouts all the time and downshifted to 2nd on the freeway and a whole host of other crap. One time the driveshaft yoke broke and the shaft came off the differential, that was pretty funny. But he managed to squeeze another 50k miles out of that thing before hsi clutch finally slipped so bad you couldn't move, and one or more headgaskets busted. It was a great truck.

I had an 87 ranger V6 manual and that thing is still on the road. My brother now owns it and its got 200000+ miles. No real work has been done to the truck.

yea, i have heard lots of stories of rangers living forever, second only to old toyota trucks. all of fords trucks are pretty good.

yea, i have heard lots of stories of rangers living forever, second only to old toyota trucks. all of fords trucks are pretty good.

Yeah old Toyota trucks are indestructible, remember on Top Gear when they put it on fire, dropped trailers on it, drenched it, drove it threw houses and blew up a high building with it sitting on top, and still kept it running? lol.

Yeah old Toyota trucks are indestructible, remember on Top Gear when they put it on fire, dropped trailers on it, drenched it, drove it threw houses and blew up a high building with it sitting on top, and still kept it running? lol.
ha ha, no way.
toyota trucks only look good when they are lifted 4-8 inches and sitting on top of 35" + tires with 16" off road wheels.
otherwise they look like wimpy wannabe trucks compared to your average ford on the road.

pshhh, a 4wd tacoma will demolish most fords offroading.

and they also left that toyota in the oceon where it was washed up by the tide and flipped over. it took them a while to even find out where it had drifted too. and it still ran after digging it out of the sand.

pshhh, a 4wd tacoma will demolish most fords offroading.

and they also left that toyota in the oceon where it was washed up by the tide and flipped over. it took them a while to even find out where it had drifted too. and it still ran after digging it out of the sand.

Yeah, drowned it. Couldn't remember the whole thing. Actually, they had to use a wrench to get the engine going. Something had came loose from the engine, if i remember it right.

yea, the only restraint was they could only use common hand tools.

i'm definately partial to GM, but I do like the fact that there's ford and dodge around solely for the fact that they can all compete with each other. if there was just one big domestic monopoly then they might be satisfied once one of their cars reached a certain level of performance. while they all make large-engine sports cars they all offer variety for different tastes,, be it f-bodies, corvettes, blown cobras, ford gt, viper, etc. on that note, lately i've not been minding ford as much but have been annoyed by asshole import drivers. when I was dropping my gf off yesterday i had a 350z riding half an inch from my bumper revving his engine at me, and last week I saw an eclipse and a 240sx cut all the way across traffic from a right turn lane and almost cause a 6 car pile up :banghead: :banghead:

the fast and the furious trilogy make baby jesus cry.

Im a dirt track racer and a die hard Ford fan. The races that I go to are dominated by Chevy Monty Carlos and the reason most people say they dont like Fords around here is because there to expensive to rebuild and alot say they are harder to work with. I like fords for there engine design and I find everything is easier to work with.