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Ballisticracer
11-17-2006, 10:07 PM
Hey Im pretty new to Street Racing (Friend introduced me to it) and I have to make a decision; Keep in mind I do not have a lot of money thus I have to settle for what I can get :wink:

-NSX 91-95 Around there, cant afford the 2001 unless its salvaged
-Evo 8
-WRX STI
-Supra 95?
-Integra (90's also)

Other suggestions are welcome too!

VR43000GT
11-17-2006, 10:27 PM
Moved to non-specific. :grinno:

Twizted_3KGT
11-17-2006, 10:35 PM
Hey Im pretty new to Street Racing (Friend introduced me to it) and I have to make a decision; Keep in mind I do not have a lot of money thus I have to settle for what I can get :wink:

-NSX 91-95 Around there, cant afford the 2001 unless its salvaged
-Evo 8
-WRX STI
-Supra 95?
-Integra (90's also)

Other suggestions are welcome too!

First of all, wrong section. Secondly, why is integra one of your options? Of those choices...Supra or Evo 8...personally Supra.

Ballisticracer
11-17-2006, 10:57 PM
Ah sorry~ From my understanding Supra = usually overpriced?

VR43000GT
11-17-2006, 11:12 PM
Not really. It's not always about JUST performance. You could also say a Ferrari is over priced but it has to do with the car that it is, the demand, and even how rare they are.

98BlackTransAm
11-17-2006, 11:14 PM
Ah sorry~ From my understanding Supra = usually overpriced?

yup, and overrated. supra's are dyno queens. the evo viii's probly gonna be the fastest out of the cars you mentioned, altho personally i think they're ugly and i'd go with a 94/95 nsx. it's generally a couple tenths slower than the evo viii but it has a lot of potential and it's got a lot more style and rarity.

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9gnMiiOh15FUgIA0WWjzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NDgyNWN 0BHNlYwNwcm9m/SIG=13cm711j8/EXP=1163909390/**http%3a//www.autogaleria.pl/tapety/img/mitsubishi/mitsubishi_lancer_evo_viii_2003_01_b.jpg

vs.

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9gnMieGiF5FgVcBdgujzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NDgyNWN 0BHNlYwNwcm9m/SIG=12snfk8mb/EXP=1163909638/**http%3a//www.superhonda.com/photopost/data/508/medium/43095Picture_224.jpg

Ballisticracer
11-17-2006, 11:31 PM
Thanks!
Couple of my friends and their street racing crew race nearby, so I went to go check em out and most of them drive WRX to Tiburons =P

Mad_Maxima
11-18-2006, 02:15 AM
supra's are dyno queens.

maybe true, but they are highway monsters. race one 60-140 and tell us how it goes.:biggrin:

pre98zetec
11-18-2006, 06:26 AM
what is it with people thinking only supras are for rolls?

Right_LiRrr
11-18-2006, 08:40 AM
what is it with people thinking only supras are for rolls? and what is it with ppl thinking supras are dyno queens?

That implies they can't do anything else but put out big hp numbers and low 1/4 mile times.

It's not the cars fault if the owner turns it into some single minded 1000hp dyno queen.

if you put money into other areas of the car it can be a perfectly good track car.

in fact, stock, it's a perfectly well balanced car that is fast in a straight line and around corners....just a bit heavy:evillol:




and in answer to the thread starter's question, if you want a street race car, all you need is a straight line monster cos i'm guessing that's all you want to do on the street. Get some big american V8, it'll be perfect for what you want.

G-man422
11-18-2006, 08:44 AM
Evo 8. You'll smoke just about everyone.

Right_LiRrr
11-18-2006, 08:49 AM
I just wanted to add, the list you've put down is pretty much every type of car there is.

This suggests that you really don't have any sort of preference and don't really know what you like.

I would suggest spending about 6-12 months just getting to know everything a bit so you won't be disappointed with your purchase if you discover what you get is really not your style. Cos all the car's you've listed are pretty expensive...at least around here.

Ballisticracer
11-18-2006, 10:42 AM
Thanks again-
Yea I dont know exactly what type of car I want.. And im not really rich since I am buying these used, but thanks for the suggestions.

98BlackTransAm
11-18-2006, 04:26 PM
maybe true, but they are highway monsters. race one 60-140 and tell us how it goes.:biggrin:

60+ is one of my sweet spots so if you kno of one in charlotte i'll gladly give 'em a run. as far as cars go supras aren't slow by any means, but for the same price you spend on a stock supra you can get a much faster stock car. you can put big $$ into any car and make faster than hell, supras are just a popular car to do that with since they take so well to mods. they're just not all they're cracked up to be in stock trim, escpeccially for what they sell for :disappoin

pre98zetec
11-18-2006, 05:02 PM
low 13 to high 12 isn't impressive being stock?

youngvr4
11-18-2006, 05:11 PM
i'd go with a 94/95 nsx. it's generally a couple tenths slower than the evo viii but it has a lot of potential and it's got a lot more style and rarity.[/IMG]

only kind of potential your gonna get out of a nsx is if you put 9 grand into it.
nsx's are track stars and good at it..as far as straight speed, they run in the mid to low 13's with a good driver but to put them in the low 12's cost more money than needed to be spent

with some bpu's the best your gonna get is high 12's, maybe just maybe mid 12's(but i highly doubt it)..after that supercharger or turbo is gonna run you 9 grand and up

and supra's kill in the 1/4 mile, highway rolls and they can handle if you want it to
supra's are great cars, regardless of how much people pump them up, there great cars

fivepointohhhh
11-18-2006, 05:35 PM
what is your price range for the car? im confused cuz you say your not rich and have to settle for what you can get, but all of the cars you listed except for the integra are very expensive

jeepgclwj
11-18-2006, 05:54 PM
I thought the same....

Ballisticracer
11-18-2006, 08:02 PM
Well I mean Im not poor though but I cant spent 50-90k on car =P

G-man422
11-18-2006, 08:08 PM
this isnt your 1st car, is it?

Ballisticracer
11-18-2006, 08:08 PM
this isnt your 1st car, is it?
No I have a Nissan maxima

silentscreams85
11-18-2006, 08:17 PM
you have 50-90k on a car..and ur buying a used one why???

Ballisticracer
11-18-2006, 08:29 PM
you have 50-90k on a car..and ur buying a used one why???

No No I said I cant afford cars that are in the 50-90k range :banghead:

98BlackTransAm
11-18-2006, 08:45 PM
No No I said I cant afford cars that are in the 50-90k range :banghead:

aight how about this then: http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?rdpage=thumb&car_id=201814710&dealer_id=571363&car_year=2000&model=VIPER&num_records=&make2=&start_year=1997&engine=&keywordsrep=&keywordsfyc=&certified=&fuel=&body_code=0&search_type=both&distance=0&first_record=26&make=DODGE&color=&min_price=1&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceDESC&address=28223&advanced=&end_year=2007&pager.offset=25&doors=&transmission=&max_price=48000&cardist=941

http://images.autotrader.com/images/2006/9/17/201/814/969804192.201814710.IM1.02.565x421_A.562x421.jpg http://images.autotrader.com/images/2006/9/17/201/814/969804204.201814710.IM1.05.565x421_A.562x421.jpg

2000 viper gts with 25,000 miles for only $45k. good for well over 400rwhp and low 12's bone stock and as a N/A car has incredible potential if you decide to go forced induction later on down the road (no pun intended :rofl: ). there's no replacement for displacment :wink:

G-man422
11-18-2006, 08:48 PM
OMG! that sounds like one heck of a deal.

Ballisticracer
11-18-2006, 10:39 PM
Looks good but I live in CA =(

VR43000GT
11-18-2006, 10:45 PM
You can't have a Viper in Cali?

Mr. Luos
11-18-2006, 10:46 PM
Viper = Overpriced.
All of them.

Get yourself a Pinto. Drop in a built 2.3 turbo. Kill everyone.

-The Stig-
11-19-2006, 03:37 AM
Looks good but I live in CA =(


Shipping a car is cheap. Look into it.

Chiquae07
11-19-2006, 10:31 PM
this isnt 2 fast 2 furious or tokyo drifto, so i believe he will want straight line power. the question is does he care about gas milage? thats the big issue. if it is, id go with a turbo'd 6 cyclinder, as you can always get better gas milage with a tune. that isnt really easy to do when you have more displacement.

209 SRT
11-19-2006, 11:12 PM
holy crap im suprised this thread is still going on in here.....I guess there isnt much going on in the street racing section anyways....so Ill add this....sounds like you should get a honda....plain and simple.....has one of the largest aftermarket support.....reliable....fun.....good on gas....and just a good all around car...oh did I mention there cheap....

VR43000GT
11-19-2006, 11:50 PM
this isnt 2 fast 2 furious or tokyo drifto, so i believe he will want straight line power. the question is does he care about gas milage? thats the big issue. if it is, id go with a turbo'd 6 cyclinder, as you can always get better gas milage with a tune. that isnt really easy to do when you have more displacement.

:sly: Pray to God Luos doesn't hear that.

Chiquae07
11-20-2006, 01:42 AM
he cant hear it, all he can do is read.... :biggrin:

its just what ive heard....

VR43000GT
11-20-2006, 02:05 AM
Reading out loud. Duh!

fivepointohhhh
11-20-2006, 02:27 AM
If you have the money to NOT get a honda, then dont get one.

G-man422
11-20-2006, 07:47 AM
if he has 40K to blow, why would he get a honda?

Mr. Luos
11-20-2006, 09:54 AM
19 MPG at 70 MPH.
600+ crank power.

I am good thanks. :lol:

CassiesMan
11-20-2006, 11:05 AM
I'm taking it you have never really raced before, and honestly believe that if you get one of the above mentioned cars, your only gonna wrap it around a tree. I mean, unless you have one some sorta serious power from your Maxima, its a world of difference going from a high 14/low 15 second car to a mid 13ish car, its like going from weed to blow. Well, maybe not blow, but maybe meth or acid.

Save for the 'Teg, all of those cars are capable of a 12 second pass with bolt ons, and on the street, 12s are good to win most stoplight drags, and a fair number of planned street races as well. If you are dead set on any of those cars, then the Evo or STI/STi is your best bet. AWD will get you good traction on the street and nail the launch, which is where a good majority of races are won or lost. If you want to open your option with AWD and stay cheap, look into a DSM.

I'd stay away from the 'Teg, as I think on the top ten list of stolen cars, four of them are different years of Integras. Further, assuming you are a younger male (i.e. under 25), I'd stay away from any and all of those cars, as insurance will flat out rape you. And I'm not talking Peter Griffin prostate exam rape, I'm talking Derailed ten rounds of fucking rape...before we find out the truth, of course.

What would I do? Stick with your Maxima. Depending on the year and motor, you have some potential. And if you don't go and do something big, it will stay reliable and net you good miliage as a DD. Bolt ons wont net you a ton of power, but they also wont put you into a ton of down time and wont hurt the reliability of your car.

If you are dead set in getting a seperate car for racing, and are a younger male, but really do have the money to spend on a Supra/Evo/STI/NSX (used they are still pricey), then I would go with a Honda. A nice mid ninteies hatch in good condition that is a grandma car or something like that, something that hasn't been owned by a dumbass 16 year old rice boy. If you have the money for the above cars, then you have the money to get a good, reputable shop (and I know in Cali there has to be at least one) to do a B18 swap, and do some mild modification. In a lightweight hatch, with the right mods, you'll have a quick car to learn with, and, with a B18, you hve tons of room to grow in any direction you want (NA/Boost/Spray/Whatever).

In the end, its all prefrence, and not a whole lot else. Its your car(s), you have to drive it(them), and you have to make the payments. So, don't ask a bunch of guys on the internet who you don't know and don't know you what kinda car you should get.

Oh, and IMHO...Get an E46 M3 and boost it a bit.

KamilMk
11-20-2006, 04:03 PM
aight how about this then: http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?rdpage=thumb&car_id=201814710&dealer_id=571363&car_year=2000&model=VIPER&num_records=&make2=&start_year=1997&engine=&keywordsrep=&keywordsfyc=&certified=&fuel=&body_code=0&search_type=both&distance=0&first_record=26&make=DODGE&color=&min_price=1&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceDESC&address=28223&advanced=&end_year=2007&pager.offset=25&doors=&transmission=&max_price=48000&cardist=941

http://images.autotrader.com/images/2006/9/17/201/814/969804192.201814710.IM1.02.565x421_A.562x421.jpg http://images.autotrader.com/images/2006/9/17/201/814/969804204.201814710.IM1.05.565x421_A.562x421.jpg

2000 viper gts with 25,000 miles for only $45k. good for well over 400rwhp and low 12's bone stock and as a N/A car has incredible potential if you decide to go forced induction later on down the road (no pun intended :rofl: ). there's no replacement for displacment :wink:

Bro, that is helluva sexy!!! And a kick a$$ deal too!!! ...Too bad I'm looking into a E46 M3, most likely used -- I'm not trying to spend a whole lot on another car, I'm afraid that this one too will get totalled... :shakehead

Mad_Maxima
11-20-2006, 04:24 PM
I'm afraid that this one too will get totalled... :shakehead

what, did you crash the Corvette??

KamilMk
11-20-2006, 04:25 PM
what, did you crash the Corvette??

It wasn't exactly me who crashed it... And that's the fuked up part about it... :disappoin

Ballisticracer
11-21-2006, 01:09 AM
I'm taking it you have never really raced before, and honestly believe that if you get one of the above mentioned cars, your only gonna wrap it around a tree. I mean, unless you have one some sorta serious power from your Maxima, its a world of difference going from a high 14/low 15 second car to a mid 13ish car, its like going from weed to blow. Well, maybe not blow, but maybe meth or acid.

Save for the 'Teg, all of those cars are capable of a 12 second pass with bolt ons, and on the street, 12s are good to win most stoplight drags, and a fair number of planned street races as well. If you are dead set on any of those cars, then the Evo or STI/STi is your best bet. AWD will get you good traction on the street and nail the launch, which is where a good majority of races are won or lost. If you want to open your option with AWD and stay cheap, look into a DSM.

I'd stay away from the 'Teg, as I think on the top ten list of stolen cars, four of them are different years of Integras. Further, assuming you are a younger male (i.e. under 25), I'd stay away from any and all of those cars, as insurance will flat out rape you. And I'm not talking Peter Griffin prostate exam rape, I'm talking Derailed ten rounds of fucking rape...before we find out the truth, of course.

What would I do? Stick with your Maxima. Depending on the year and motor, you have some potential. And if you don't go and do something big, it will stay reliable and net you good miliage as a DD. Bolt ons wont net you a ton of power, but they also wont put you into a ton of down time and wont hurt the reliability of your car.

If you are dead set in getting a seperate car for racing, and are a younger male, but really do have the money to spend on a Supra/Evo/STI/NSX (used they are still pricey), then I would go with a Honda. A nice mid ninteies hatch in good condition that is a grandma car or something like that, something that hasn't been owned by a dumbass 16 year old rice boy. If you have the money for the above cars, then you have the money to get a good, reputable shop (and I know in Cali there has to be at least one) to do a B18 swap, and do some mild modification. In a lightweight hatch, with the right mods, you'll have a quick car to learn with, and, with a B18, you hve tons of room to grow in any direction you want (NA/Boost/Spray/Whatever).

In the end, its all prefrence, and not a whole lot else. Its your car(s), you have to drive it(them), and you have to make the payments. So, don't ask a bunch of guys on the internet who you don't know and don't know you what kinda car you should get.

Oh, and IMHO...Get an E46 M3 and boost it a bit.

Thanks a lot guys! Really helped me think this through~ I cut off the Integra as I was looking through the Used and many were either already modded or too much mileage. My Maxima is not bad but...to be honest I go to Pepperdine and they make a big deal about cars, if you get my drift (No pun intended). I have narrowed it down to a Shelby GT500 (Although I heard they added an electric stopper at 150mph), EVO 9 MR, NSX 97, or maybe just an automatic, which I have not looked into much.

Twizted_3KGT
11-21-2006, 03:42 AM
Now of those choices I would pick the NSX...but thats for teh sexy factor, for street racing its Evo 9 mr all the way.

TheStang00
11-22-2006, 03:19 PM
gt500 ftw.

stocksvtcontour
11-22-2006, 03:31 PM
If you really want a gt500 why not just get a termminator. They are lighter and modd easily. They are 12 second cars stock and go 11s easily. Just my opinion.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HOT-RED-2003-MUSTANG-COBRA-36K-MILES-THE-BEST_W0QQitemZ190053221216QQihZ009QQcategoryZ6236Q QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

G-man422
11-22-2006, 03:54 PM
Ahhh yes, a cobra. Thats a very good car to consider.

BlackGT2000
11-22-2006, 05:41 PM
gotta love the 03 cobra

lamehonda
11-22-2006, 06:09 PM
Why not get a C6 vette? They are faster than the GT500 in almost every way and have more potential IMO.

You could also look at a used Z06

G-man422
11-22-2006, 06:15 PM
Why not get a C6 vette?
Because they cost more.

fivepointohhhh
11-22-2006, 08:24 PM
The gt500 would be sexy, great power and how many of them do you see on the road? I honestly havent seen one yet

TheStang00
11-22-2006, 10:14 PM
i imagine with a couple suspension goodies the gt500 would be a sick drag car, it has the nice solid rear.

VR43000GT
11-22-2006, 10:28 PM
Why not get a C6 vette? They are faster than the GT500 in almost every way and have more potential IMO.

You could also look at a used Z06


:1:


Wait for a little while and then buy one that is slightly used and the price has gone down. Better mpg than the GT500, faster, looks a lot better (IMO), and more potential. I have seen a GT500 driving in my hometown.......it was nice but didn't have the same "wow" look to it that the Vette has.

Twizted_3KGT
11-22-2006, 11:23 PM
I'm shocked this hasn't been moved.

Mad_Maxima
11-23-2006, 12:47 AM
we need it to keep this section alive, its kinda a ghost town now that its winter

Morphius289
11-23-2006, 01:53 AM
I still don't understand how he doesn't have a lot of money and can still buy an NSX.



On topic though, as far as a street-driven beast, I'd say your best bet is a Supra. Fast from the factory, RWD, rare, and it seems to be in your price range(albiet, I can't really tell your price range since you've listed both an Ingetra and a Evo in the same range). Plus, the Supra is just as good looking to most people as an NSX is.

Ballisticracer
11-23-2006, 02:42 AM
Thanks- I went out last night with my friend and him and a couple of other racers met near the park (Area in our city where at like 11-12ish roads empty and its pretty much 1/2 mile of straightness)I just went to check out the cars. STI, Tiburon, M3, Riced out Corolla, Evo 7 and a couple more (Maybe Supra? Couldnt tell). Anyways the races were pretty much down the road and we had cars at end of each road to check for traffic (Safety first :)). Made me want to get an STI, ripped up everyone! Until I got into the car and the shifting made me want to get out of the car and never drive it again. It was just for fun race, they just bet small change for like gas money and such.
I decided on an '97+ NSX but friends said it was waste of money and a tibby can beat it =(. Made me think...

Steiner
11-23-2006, 02:59 AM
I decided on an '97+ NSX but friends said it was waste of money and a tibby can beat it =(. Made me think... Your friends are mistaken. There might be some obscure scenario out there where a Hyundai Tiburon can beat an Acura NSX, but even if the Tibby wins it still loses. Know what I mean? I don't know what your budget is and, after seeing that you have Evo VII's in your neighborhood, now I don't even know what country you live in. However if you're planning to street race you're bound to break something sooner or later. Take into consideration the TRUE cost of ownership...insurance, gas mileage, cost of parts, local tuners who know the car, etc. Good luck.

-The Stig-
11-23-2006, 03:09 AM
Your friends are mistaken. There might be some obscure scenario out there where a Hyundai Tiburon can beat an Acura NSX, but even if the Tibby wins it still loses. Know what I mean? I don't know what your budget is and, after seeing that you have Evo VII's in your neighborhood, now I don't even know what country you live in. However if you're planning to street race you're bound to break something sooner or later. Take into consideration the TRUE cost of ownership...insurance, gas mileage, cost of parts, local tuners who know the car, etc. Good luck.



Rally racing? :p

Steiner
11-23-2006, 11:39 AM
Is there a privateer Tibby back in the WRC? I haven't watched any footage since Tour de Corse.

BlackGT2000
11-23-2006, 11:55 AM
Tiburon better than an NSX? Not in this dimention.

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