im a newbie here..need help
pacs
11-17-2006, 04:37 AM
hi guys, after ive seen some of your work, ive decided to try it on my own. ive purchased a Tamiya Evo 5 WRC kit to start with (i colect Evo diecast). i have some questions i hope you can help me.
1. do i have to apply primer to the small parts like suspension, disc brakes etc?
2. do i have to attach all parts (front and rear bumpers) to the body before i apply primer on the body?
3.do i have to sand all the parts including the small parts and under the chasis?
4.all colors of tamiya available in spray cans??
thanks in advance :)
1. do i have to apply primer to the small parts like suspension, disc brakes etc?
2. do i have to attach all parts (front and rear bumpers) to the body before i apply primer on the body?
3.do i have to sand all the parts including the small parts and under the chasis?
4.all colors of tamiya available in spray cans??
thanks in advance :)
cyberkid
11-17-2006, 05:03 AM
hi guys, after ive seen some of your work, ive decided to try it on my own. ive purchased a Tamiya Evo 5 WRC kit to start with (i colect Evo diecast). i have some questions i hope you can help me.
1. do i have to apply primer to the small parts like suspension, disc brakes etc?
2. do i have to attach all parts (front and rear bumpers) to the body before i apply primer on the body?
3.do i have to sand all the parts including the small parts and under the chasis?
4.all colors of tamiya available in spray cans??
thanks in advance :)
First off ,welcome to AF.
Second please read my sig.
To all of your questions the quickest answers are all 'no'.
1. Primer only enhances your work, some people don't use it at all. Personally I prime everything that needs to be painted.
2. Seperate pieces will give you more freedom while painting, though there is the chance that there will be a difference in color shade. I assemble most parts on before primering, with the exception of the rearview mirrors.
3. Again, sanding enhances your work, some people don't sand at all. IMO, a part that isn't sanded down doesn't look right unless you don't have any mold lines or glue joints and the places where you cut the part off the sprue is hidden.. basically.. never.
4. Tamiya has 3 different lines of paint. The enemal and arcylic paints are X-# and XF-#, where as the lacquers are TS-#... so the only spray paints that Tamiya have are lacquers which only have a few of the colors that the enamel/ arcylic lines do.
Hope that these answers are sufficiant.
Please use basic puncuation and capitalization, it makes reading a lot easier.
HTH,
Steve
1. do i have to apply primer to the small parts like suspension, disc brakes etc?
2. do i have to attach all parts (front and rear bumpers) to the body before i apply primer on the body?
3.do i have to sand all the parts including the small parts and under the chasis?
4.all colors of tamiya available in spray cans??
thanks in advance :)
First off ,welcome to AF.
Second please read my sig.
To all of your questions the quickest answers are all 'no'.
1. Primer only enhances your work, some people don't use it at all. Personally I prime everything that needs to be painted.
2. Seperate pieces will give you more freedom while painting, though there is the chance that there will be a difference in color shade. I assemble most parts on before primering, with the exception of the rearview mirrors.
3. Again, sanding enhances your work, some people don't sand at all. IMO, a part that isn't sanded down doesn't look right unless you don't have any mold lines or glue joints and the places where you cut the part off the sprue is hidden.. basically.. never.
4. Tamiya has 3 different lines of paint. The enemal and arcylic paints are X-# and XF-#, where as the lacquers are TS-#... so the only spray paints that Tamiya have are lacquers which only have a few of the colors that the enamel/ arcylic lines do.
Hope that these answers are sufficiant.
Please use basic puncuation and capitalization, it makes reading a lot easier.
HTH,
Steve
wouter1981
11-17-2006, 05:48 AM
hi guys, after ive seen some of your work, ive decided to try it on my own. ive purchased a Tamiya Evo 5 WRC kit to start with (i colect Evo diecast). i have some questions i hope you can help me.
1. do i have to apply primer to the small parts like suspension, disc brakes etc?
2. do i have to attach all parts (front and rear bumpers) to the body before i apply primer on the body?
3.do i have to sand all the parts including the small parts and under the chasis?
4.all colors of tamiya available in spray cans??
thanks in advance :)
1. If you're just starting the hobby. I wouldn't prime the small parts. I prime almost everything that's clearly visible, but if I'm in a hurry, I only prime the pieces witch need a verry light colour and the body.
2. It depends. On some cars you can put all the bumpers and poilers together before priming and painting. But others cars. By example. The wing on the tamiya porche GT3. It's verry difficult to paint if you have attached it to you're body. Do carefully check you're plans, testfit and use some comone sense.
3Again, If you're new, don't sand everything. BE sure you sand the body, because that will be THE eyecatcher. Nobody is going to notice some moldlines on the suspension if you're body is really nice. If you have some more experience, you can start to sand more pieces. Just spend a lot of time on the pieces that are clearly visible when the model is completed.
4. Not all the colours of tamiya are available in spraycans. Some colours in spraycan aren't available in bottle and vica versa. ALL tamiya products are great, so you can't buy anything "wrong" of the tamiya products, just buy teh stuff you need when you're new.
if you have more question, feel free to ask, and check the searchfunction and FAQ.
1. do i have to apply primer to the small parts like suspension, disc brakes etc?
2. do i have to attach all parts (front and rear bumpers) to the body before i apply primer on the body?
3.do i have to sand all the parts including the small parts and under the chasis?
4.all colors of tamiya available in spray cans??
thanks in advance :)
1. If you're just starting the hobby. I wouldn't prime the small parts. I prime almost everything that's clearly visible, but if I'm in a hurry, I only prime the pieces witch need a verry light colour and the body.
2. It depends. On some cars you can put all the bumpers and poilers together before priming and painting. But others cars. By example. The wing on the tamiya porche GT3. It's verry difficult to paint if you have attached it to you're body. Do carefully check you're plans, testfit and use some comone sense.
3Again, If you're new, don't sand everything. BE sure you sand the body, because that will be THE eyecatcher. Nobody is going to notice some moldlines on the suspension if you're body is really nice. If you have some more experience, you can start to sand more pieces. Just spend a lot of time on the pieces that are clearly visible when the model is completed.
4. Not all the colours of tamiya are available in spraycans. Some colours in spraycan aren't available in bottle and vica versa. ALL tamiya products are great, so you can't buy anything "wrong" of the tamiya products, just buy teh stuff you need when you're new.
if you have more question, feel free to ask, and check the searchfunction and FAQ.
willimo
11-17-2006, 12:08 PM
These are good questions, and will result in difference in opinions.
1. A lot of folks don't prime everything. I do. I find it helps the paint adhere, and not flow away from high spots into low spots when brush painting or spray painting. Small parts tend to have the most shape to them, so they are, for me, as essential to prime as the body is, just for getting the paint to lay right.
2. Again, a lot of people do different things. Quite a few people wait, and assemble the bumpers and whatnot after the body has been attached to the chassis. Sometimes this is absolutely necessary, as the body won't fit over the chassis with the bumpers in place. Test fitting through this step is crucial, before you begin any painting. I on the otherhand, will try to attach the bumpers before paint if at all possible, and often modify the chassis to fit into the assembled body if necessary. Parts like mirrors and spoilers, however, are difficult to paint in place because you have to get around them, and spray at weird angles, which can lead to running paint. So I leave them off. Also, they can be easily knocked off during assembly, and after, and if they have the same coat of paint as the body, they can chip the body badly and be very difficult to repair.
3. Not if you don't want to. I don't sand much aside from the body, or what maybe needs sanding. I do, however, remove all the mold lines I can (the line that appears on the part where the two halves of the mold meet) by running my hobby knife along the mold line perpendicularly to it. This shaves off a tiny bit of plastic, and leaves a smooth, flat surface much more easily than sanding would on the same part.
4. No, but the important ones are.
Take a moment to read the FAQ and some Tutorials, too. There is a lot of further information there. Good luck, and show us what you got.
1. A lot of folks don't prime everything. I do. I find it helps the paint adhere, and not flow away from high spots into low spots when brush painting or spray painting. Small parts tend to have the most shape to them, so they are, for me, as essential to prime as the body is, just for getting the paint to lay right.
2. Again, a lot of people do different things. Quite a few people wait, and assemble the bumpers and whatnot after the body has been attached to the chassis. Sometimes this is absolutely necessary, as the body won't fit over the chassis with the bumpers in place. Test fitting through this step is crucial, before you begin any painting. I on the otherhand, will try to attach the bumpers before paint if at all possible, and often modify the chassis to fit into the assembled body if necessary. Parts like mirrors and spoilers, however, are difficult to paint in place because you have to get around them, and spray at weird angles, which can lead to running paint. So I leave them off. Also, they can be easily knocked off during assembly, and after, and if they have the same coat of paint as the body, they can chip the body badly and be very difficult to repair.
3. Not if you don't want to. I don't sand much aside from the body, or what maybe needs sanding. I do, however, remove all the mold lines I can (the line that appears on the part where the two halves of the mold meet) by running my hobby knife along the mold line perpendicularly to it. This shaves off a tiny bit of plastic, and leaves a smooth, flat surface much more easily than sanding would on the same part.
4. No, but the important ones are.
Take a moment to read the FAQ and some Tutorials, too. There is a lot of further information there. Good luck, and show us what you got.
rallymaster
11-17-2006, 07:19 PM
hi guys, after ive seen some of your work, ive decided to try it on my own. ive purchased a Tamiya Evo 5 WRC kit to start with (i colect Evo diecast). i have some questions i hope you can help me.
1. do i have to apply primer to the small parts like suspension, disc brakes etc?
2. do i have to attach all parts (front and rear bumpers) to the body before i apply primer on the body?
3.do i have to sand all the parts including the small parts and under the chasis?
4.all colors of tamiya available in spray cans??
thanks in advance :)
Hello Pacs,
welcome on AF :wink:
my opinion:
1/ I prime everything I have to paint, white primer for light colors, black primer for others. that offers better stability to paints and make painting easier (I mostly use acrylics paints, like Citadel ones)
2/ If you have to paint several attached parts in the same color, why not, but it would complicate some details paint job.
3/ Under the chassis... Mmm I would say that it depend of the molding quality, for tamiya kit I would say no, but I think no answer could be definitive, you have to check the chassis and see if there are molding lines...
it's the same for smal parts, they will always be cleaner after sanding the modlding or cutting off-sprue lines...
For some parts I don't sand, when they are hidden or put on a certain sens...
I clean (with saw or sanding) 90 % of the parts.
4/ I am not the most qualified as I use acrylics paints for details but tamiya cans for bodies when no polyurethan available, I know there is a certain range or TS color available, enough to satisfy tamiya kits builds (of course tamiya advice to use its own paints ! :grinyes: )
happy building ! :)
Phil
1. do i have to apply primer to the small parts like suspension, disc brakes etc?
2. do i have to attach all parts (front and rear bumpers) to the body before i apply primer on the body?
3.do i have to sand all the parts including the small parts and under the chasis?
4.all colors of tamiya available in spray cans??
thanks in advance :)
Hello Pacs,
welcome on AF :wink:
my opinion:
1/ I prime everything I have to paint, white primer for light colors, black primer for others. that offers better stability to paints and make painting easier (I mostly use acrylics paints, like Citadel ones)
2/ If you have to paint several attached parts in the same color, why not, but it would complicate some details paint job.
3/ Under the chassis... Mmm I would say that it depend of the molding quality, for tamiya kit I would say no, but I think no answer could be definitive, you have to check the chassis and see if there are molding lines...
it's the same for smal parts, they will always be cleaner after sanding the modlding or cutting off-sprue lines...
For some parts I don't sand, when they are hidden or put on a certain sens...
I clean (with saw or sanding) 90 % of the parts.
4/ I am not the most qualified as I use acrylics paints for details but tamiya cans for bodies when no polyurethan available, I know there is a certain range or TS color available, enough to satisfy tamiya kits builds (of course tamiya advice to use its own paints ! :grinyes: )
happy building ! :)
Phil
pacs
11-22-2006, 02:46 AM
thanks guys!!! i really appreciated all your help. i hope i can build one like yours. i've seen some and it was really awsome!!!!!!
wouter1981
11-22-2006, 03:12 AM
thanks guys!!! i really appreciated all your help. i hope i can build one like yours. i've seen some and it was really awsome!!!!!!
I'm going to give you one more tip. THE most important of all: take you're time. Try to see each part of the model as an entire model and spent time on each individual part. Don't jump forward in the manual but make it step by step. That is the key to a good model.
I'm going to give you one more tip. THE most important of all: take you're time. Try to see each part of the model as an entire model and spent time on each individual part. Don't jump forward in the manual but make it step by step. That is the key to a good model.
pacs
11-22-2006, 04:51 AM
yup! thanks for the tip. thanks so much wouter1981
pacs
11-22-2006, 04:53 AM
also i would like to thank the following people:
cyberkid
willimo
rallymaster
:grinyes:
cyberkid
willimo
rallymaster
:grinyes:
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