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52mm TB?


ikeyballz
11-11-2006, 08:04 PM
52mm TB...what gains on stock motor?

heard it can up 15-20hp.. true?

ikeyballz
11-11-2006, 08:18 PM
(price is 200$ish) im thinking of it, so later when i do a cam swap ill get a lot more power...

FormulaLT1
11-11-2006, 10:03 PM
It all depends on supporting mods how much you gain. If you have a better flowing exhaust and intake you may see closer to the 15 side. If you are bone stock you may only see a few horse. I think it is a good mod though considering if will help will sucking air into the combustion chamber.

Morley
11-12-2006, 03:21 AM
The stock engine will only use so much air, and the stock 48mm is more than enough for stock engines. Invest your money in a better exhaust (headers & cat back). Then contemplate getting a larger TB. Intake mods for the LT1 aren't needed (other than the TB) to make it flow better. If you want to take the time you could port match the intake to the heads and then gasket match it all. Also smooth out any rough areas inside of the intake/plenum that you can get to. This will only get you a few more HP (MAYBE 5-10 depending) but will make a difference if/when you go to a larger cam.

ikeyballz
11-12-2006, 07:34 AM
hmm.. well since my car is an SS it already has a pretty good flowing exhaust, and it has a cold air intake..

im looking for a good mod in the 200-300~ish range.

what do you guys suggest?

goldz28
11-12-2006, 07:56 AM
Subframe connectors. I just got some on my car and can tell a big difference.

FormulaLT1
11-12-2006, 04:26 PM
Headers or gears will be your biggest bang for the buck mod in that price range.

ikeyballz
11-13-2006, 04:03 AM
gears.. that does sound fun. i have 3.42's (stock) how do i go about picking the right gear? ive herad everyone say they really like the 4.1x's and i was wondering if they would fit my rear end.. i have the ''torsen'' differential..from what i hear, those things are frickin weird.

ikeyballz
11-13-2006, 04:04 AM
btw guys, thanks a lot for the input :D i really want to make this NOT as stock as it is.. (i want to do easy things so i can change it back- in case im going to resell it)

Savage Messiah
11-13-2006, 09:44 AM
The torsen is the better of the stock LSD's

FormulaLT1
11-13-2006, 10:54 AM
I thought only the 99 - 02's got the torsen but I could be wrong but the Torsens are the best, Also yes you can use the same differential with your 4.10/4.11's so its a direct swap, However if you do infact have a torsen you will need to grind down the center paddle to allow enough room so it will clear the ring gear.

SLP sells a replacement paddle for the taller gears but its not really necessary and kinda expensive, with gears you can go back to stock semi easy but will require reflashing the PCM to correct the speedo both when you change the gears and then if you put back original.

ikeyballz
11-13-2006, 03:40 PM
thanks for the info :D
i have a quick programmer so its easy to go back and forth for me.. =)

i know a bunch of people hate SLP in here..cuz their service sucks, but i do want some quality parts.
http://www.slponline.com/view_product.asp?P=64045&BIG=64045-1
what do you think?

$250+sh+some of the other 'required or recommended parts' = 360 more..

includes:kit, reluctor ring, adaptor paddles..

~600$. O_o

do i need all of them? if i do the job i figure i might as well do it right..

FormulaLT1
11-13-2006, 04:18 PM
You already have a reluctor ring so X that, Like I said about the paddle, you can easily grind your down a little and it will work fine and save you a few bucks. The only things you need is a set of gears (Motive, Richmond, strange and so on can be had for 180 or less. Go check summit) and a install kit (if you need it I have a source I order mine from and it only cost 23 - 24 bucks) and some new bearings is always a good idea. 8 - 9 bucks each at advance or Autozone. So your total in parts would be 180 + 24 + 27= 231.00

Edit- I forgot fluid, if you have a torsen you don't need a GM additive since you have no clutches and you will take about 1.5 quarts so figure like 16 bucks for quality fluid and your right around 250.

ikeyballz
11-13-2006, 05:06 PM
sweet! thanks a lot :) ill try to get that soon and tell you how it went.. i really want the extra torque.. guess i gotta get used to shifting differently again though.. too used to downshifting it into certain gears @ certain speeds.

ikeyballz
11-14-2006, 01:37 AM
one last question:

what is the spline count?
is it a 3 series carrier?
7.5/7.65...etc..?
bolts..

(is there a parts number i can ust sort of look up somewhere..and copy the specs?)

my cars a 97 SS with the torsen differential..

FormulaLT1
11-14-2006, 02:06 AM
Spline count won't matter to you since you don't have to change the carrier and all the pinion gears use the same ammount (which is 27). Yes you have a 3 series and yes the 4.10 or 4.11 will also be 3 series. 10 bolt 7.5 - 7.625 use the same gear, and you have the 7.625 which is a 10 bolt (although that means nothing cause lots of gm rears of lots of sizes are 10 bolts). The part number for richmond 4.10's for your vehicle is 6903221. Good luck.

(edit- don't know much about the sportman version richmond gears but these are the right size and the price looks very good SGM7508)

Also, I would be very interested to hear if you do actually have a torsen in there cause I can swear I read that SLP only used them in 99 + SS, WS6 & Firehawks but like I said before, I could be wrong on this.

ikeyballz
11-14-2006, 06:01 AM
yeah, im pretty sure its a torsen diff, not only does it say that on the SS notebook.. but i have never been able to 'powerslide' it into turns like i used to be able to with my posi on the 3rd gen..

also ive been looking up the SS option on a bunch of camaros for sale, and most of them also list the torsen.. 'torque sensing differential'

ill take a picture of the SLP options on my door..i swear i had a picture on my desktop..

ikeyballz
11-16-2006, 03:08 AM
my bad for the late reply.. damn midterms are killing me..http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/ikeyballz/DSC01904.jpg

im also thinking of buying
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=RAT%2D3001K&view=1&N=700+0
its 120 more dollars for everything i need. what do you think?

thanks for helping!.. i decided i should do a perf. mod instead of getting projector lights ;P faster > look better. ;]
-ike

ikeyballz
11-16-2006, 03:56 AM
one last question, what do you think of
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=RMG%2D8002701&N=700+115&autoview=sku
that one? 4.10, for my axle and bolt pattern..but 40$?!

FormulaLT1
11-16-2006, 01:15 PM
I would call Richmond and inquire about those. I have a feeling they are not to OEM quality and could cause headaches and require you to install a better set a second time but you never know.

ikeyballz
11-16-2006, 04:21 PM
alrighty, thanks. i think ive finally figured out what i need. and its all under 300! sweet..

only bad thing is i live in hawaii so shippings gonna kill me .. they quoted me 30-90 days w. 'normal' shipping. WTF! guess i gotta three day or something.. =P

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