smoke?

so now the car smokes.

it is white. but very moist like water.

smells like gas not oil. i know i'm running rich.

it comes out just lil at idle, and when i give it gas more comes out. if i let off the gas in gear or idle the smoke stops.

after running till op temp i drove it around. the whole smoke thing happened so i stop at a gas station. and let it run at idle for like 3 minutes. the smoke stopped. so i got in and drove a lil more. the smoke was still coming out but not as bad.

so what do you guys think? do i just need more break in miles or did something bad happen?

thanks in advance.

I say its just condensation. Was the smoke more white and puffy like chimney smoke or more steamy like boiling water? Check your plugs and maybe lean the motor out a little. Make sure your timing is perfect.

the timing is perfect.

the plugs are good.

how do i lean the motor out?

it's like a mix of both. when i step on the gas it's puffy smoke, but dissipates quick. when it's at idle it's steamy smoke.

i'm going to get the valves adjusted again tomorrow to make sure it's not oil leaking in. the head gasket is good. nothing leaking out. also going to get a compression test tomorrow.

if that doesn't fix it then i'm gonna get a big sticker that says "THE FOG MACHINE" lol.

the timing is perfect.

the plugs are good.

how do i lean the motor out?

it's like a mix of both. when i step on the gas it's puffy smoke, but dissipates quick. when it's at idle it's steamy smoke.

i'm going to get the valves adjusted again tomorrow to make sure it's not oil leaking in. the head gasket is good. nothing leaking out. also going to get a compression test tomorrow.

if that doesn't fix it then i'm gonna get a big sticker that says "THE FOG MACHINE" lol.

That sounds like one of two things:

1. Burning coolant
2. Hot air from the exhaust hitting the cold air on the outside. Don't forget, H2o IS a byproduct of the chemical process that happens in the catalytic converter.

how am i burning coolant but not oil?

i live in the desert so it stays kinda warm. and i'm a lil slow on the rest of #2. i ain't the smartest guy in the world.

I'd say your burning coolant to..the white smoke is a give away...you just rebuilt that engine right? if so maybe you have a small leak in between cylinders? enough that coolant can seep into the cylinder. Or the headgasket is damaged by one of the coolant passages and is trickling into one, or more cylinders. Being that your in the desert bam bam's #2 doesn't seem very likely

when i first noticed the smoke, i went and retightened the head bolts. you know just in case. i was there when the head gasket was put on and when the head was installed. i did it my self. i know the gasket isn't damaged.

when i first noticed the smoke, i went and retightened the head bolts. you know just in case. i was there when the head gasket was put on and when the head was installed. i did it my self. i know the gasket isn't damaged.

You can burn coolant without burning oil.
You could also be leaking coolant into the intake manifold through one of the hoses.
Does it smell sweet? Here's a true test...but be careful. If there is liquid inside your tail pipe, taste it...but DON'T swallow it. It's not a big deal...just taste some on your tongue and then spit it out. This is the test I use to see if something is either water or coolant when it is leaking or burning. It's not politically correct, but it works. Just make sure you DON'T swallow coolant as it is poisonous and can kill you.

What headbolts are you using?
What headgasket?
what block/head combo?
what torque specs/sequence did you use?

You can burn coolant without burning oil.
You could also be leaking coolant into the intake manifold through one of the hoses.
Does it smell sweet? Here's a true test...but be careful. If there is liquid inside your tail pipe, taste it...but DON'T swallow it. It's not a big deal...just taste some on your tongue and then spit it out. This is the test I use to see if something is either water or coolant when it is leaking or burning. It's not politically correct, but it works. Just make sure you DON'T swallow coolant as it is poisonous and can kill you.

What headbolts are you using?
What headgasket?
what block/head combo?
what torque specs/sequence did you use?

using arp b16 headbolts

buddy club b16 head gasket

jdm b16 block and head

stock torque specs and sequence

using arp b16 headbolts

buddy club b16 head gasket

jdm b16 block and head

stock torque specs and sequence

That all checks out fine there....you do the "taste" test yet to see if it actually coolant?

yeah i tasted it tonight. kinda like cjicken. lol

taste like oil. so the shop was closed so tomorrow when i can get the valve clearence tool then i can redo the valves and check compression.

yeah i tasted it tonight. kinda like cjicken. lol

taste like oil. so the shop was closed so tomorrow when i can get the valve clearence tool then i can redo the valves and check compression.

Oil? That would be a grayish-blue smoke then.

no the smoke is definitly white. maybe it was just the residue i tasted.
either way it tasted like shit.

the shop i use/work at is open tomorrow so i will definitly get a compression test on all cylinders.

what hose do i need to check to see if it is coolant coming into the intake manifold?

I'm not sure how many coolant hoses you have on the bseries intake. Personally I would just make sure your intake gasket is intact incase coolant is seeping in through the coolant passages in the intake, right into the combustion chamber. I'm not sure what bam bam meant about the hoses...you would have to have a leak directly in the intake for any leaky hose to be a problem right?

the intake gasket is goood. i torqued that down myself to stock specs.

i think i'm just screwed.

this shit is really buming me out.

No worries, we'll help as best we can. What were the results of the compression test? Did you have the head and block checked for warpage?

well the shop i go to is on base. i go there cause you do your own labor, and it's hella cheaper.

the guys that work there said it's either my oil rings weren't put on right or my head gasket.

the head was resurfaced, so unless the block got warped some how, i don't know what it is.

me and my supervisor took forever putting it back together to stock specs. everything.

wish one of ya'll could fly out here and figure it out.

well the shop i go to is on base. i go there cause you do your own labor, and it's hella cheaper.

the guys that work there said it's either my oil rings weren't put on right or my head gasket.

the head was resurfaced, so unless the block got warped some how, i don't know what it is.

me and my supervisor took forever putting it back together to stock specs. everything.

wish one of ya'll could fly out here and figure it out.

So you're burning oil?
How many miles are on the car?
What did you hone the block to?
What rings are you using?
What oil are you using?
Did you replace the valve seals?
What ring clearances are you using?

Sorry to heap on a few more questions but... Are you losing coolant or brake fluid? Oil look normal?

I'm not sure how many coolant hoses you have on the bseries intake. Personally I would just make sure your intake gasket is intact incase coolant is seeping in through the coolant passages in the intake, right into the combustion chamber. I'm not sure what bam bam meant about the hoses...you would have to have a leak directly in the intake for any leaky hose to be a problem right?

correct, I was talking about the one on the passenger side corner of the intake manifold. ALSO, make sure you didn't mix any vaccum hoses w/ any coolant lines on the TB and the eacv. I know it sounds stupid, but i've seen it.

So you're burning oil?
How many miles are on the car?
What did you hone the block to?
What rings are you using?
What oil are you using?
Did you replace the valve seals?
What ring clearances are you using?
110 miles
hone? my sup did it. no scrathes or marks.
nippon rings
castrol 10w 30
valve seals replaced with oem
ring clearances?

Sorry to heap on a few more questions but... Are you losing coolant or brake fluid? Oil look normal?
no loss of brake fluid.

coolant is leaking some where.

oil looks normal, but does burn.

correct, I was talking about the one on the passenger side corner of the intake manifold. ALSO, make sure you didn't mix any vaccum hoses w/ any coolant lines on the TB and the eacv. I know it sounds stupid, but i've seen it.

um actually i wasn't really sure where the vaccum lines went to. i have no other crx to compare them too.

well i was driving today. just barely taking off from my house, got 2 houses down and the car died. now it won't start.

wtf?

no loss of brake fluid.

coolant is leaking some where.

oil looks normal, but does burn.

OK I thought maybe the brake booster was pulling brake fluid causing the smoke.

I seriously think the head gasket is blown and it's gotten so bad it won't run anymore. Did you do the compression test?

other than what john said above I can't offer much help. But I'm sorry to hear about your troubles. I have been reading some of your previous posts and you sounded like you had a peppy little engine on the go. I'd do a leakdown test though to get it right the first time if you have access to all the government can offer at your base maybe even and xray if the leakdown doesn't get you anywhere. Somtimes you can rebuild an engine and replace rings, bearings, valves and seals..but you may have a fracture in the block or head somewhere...at least she shut down on you quick though, cause whatever it is it likely didn't do much internal damage to the new parts you have in it. I hope it was just a headgasket though or you will likely be pulling the damn engine again.

well i was driving today. just barely taking off from my house, got 2 houses down and the car died. now it won't start.

wtf?
I was talking about ring end-gap. Also what were your piston to wall clearances. Was the motor bored at all? What pistons are you using? All of this can affect oil consumption. Tolerances need to be on spot, or you can burn oil. You can't just assemble the motor without clearancing things and expect it not to burn oil.

Other than that, does your car turn over now? Or, it just doesn't turn over at all? Please explain "it died" a little better so I can help you here. Did it stall? Is there no power? etc.

I was talking about ring end-gap. Also what were your piston to wall clearances. Was the motor bored at all? What pistons are you using? All of this can affect oil consumption. Tolerances need to be on spot, or you can burn oil. You can't just assemble the motor without clearancing things and expect it not to burn oil.

Other than that, does your car turn over now? Or, it just doesn't turn over at all? Please explain "it died" a little better so I can help you here. Did it stall? Is there no power? etc.
piston to wall clearances?
no the motor wasn't bored out.
stock pr3 b16 pistons.

it's back to the want to start but doesn't stage.

yeah i guess you could say it stalled, but really just died. didn't want to do anything. there is power. all the electronics work. she just won't turn over.

piston to wall clearances?
no the motor wasn't bored out.
stock pr3 b16 pistons.

it's back to the want to start but doesn't stage.

yeah i guess you could say it stalled, but really just died. didn't want to do anything. there is power. all the electronics work. she just won't turn over.

well, if it's not "turning over" that means it's something in your starter circuit. Does it just "click" when you turn the key to on?

no it tries to turn over. ya know. well i can't really make the sound for you but a good example would be like when it's really cold out and it takes a minute to start.

no it tries to turn over. ya know. well i can't really make the sound for you but a good example would be like when it's really cold out and it takes a minute to start.

Check your compression. Check your timing. Check your spark.

well we got a 4day weekend so i'm gonna go to the shop tomorrow.

if you are burning white smoke and you are losing coolant you obviously have a blown headgasket and you are burning coolant. If it doesnt start now, that is because your spark plugs are all fucked. check into it. verify with a compression test. oh and good luck
Dan

ok here's an update. couldn't get a compression test done but i did take the header off and looked into the exhaust ports. all are good except #3. it has sludge in it. like a mixture of antifreeze and the exhaust. since i know the block is good, i want to take it to a shop now. just the head. and get it pressure tested.

so does anyone know a good shop in the san diego area?