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Iraq? post your opinions mine are always gramatically wrong but i wanna know opinions


NSX-R-SSJ20K
09-12-2002, 05:40 AM
Should we be getting rid of Sadam hussain?

I thinkso i am sick of all these union leaders saying we should leave him alone i don't give a shit the Middle east may be unstable but i don't like union leaders either they talk of socialist bullshit i hate that shit far left wnakers ..... this is the uk ones that is they get paid fuck all and want more benefits etc ........which more tax and less pay it works like that if they didn't realise .......... some of them need to take economics and governement.

Anyways everyone that seems to be in the news talks of being against iraq i think we should flatten them finish of what president bush Senior failed to do and get rid of that tyrant and his sick sons who rape women etc.....

sarujin
09-12-2002, 06:24 AM
Well since Tony Blair now wants to get rid of Saddam I believe there must be a pretty big reason to get rid of him. I don't know the reason he needs to be got rid of, but some of the worlds leaders do, and I trust them.

I believe if the UN actually did what it was suppoused to! (save lives), it would help take Iraq, as fixing that country would save alot of Iraqis lives.

So I say take Saddam out, but leave the people alone. Its possible with an air war and minimal casualties.

sarujin

DVSNCYNIKL
09-12-2002, 06:34 AM
I think we have our hands full right now. That is all I want to say.

NSX-R-SSJ20K
09-12-2002, 06:41 AM
i guess .........altho i tend to think he should've been rid off a while ago and apparently he is constructing nuclear bombs and could be finished in a couple of months .........:(

DVSNCYNIKL
09-12-2002, 06:50 AM
Originally posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K
i guess .........altho i tend to think he should've been rid off a while ago

I wholeheartedly agree with this statement.

jsb88
11-01-2002, 11:33 AM
He should get out of there!

Ran
01-18-2003, 01:13 AM
i say kill sadam and no more problems!:D

jsb88
01-18-2003, 01:15 AM
But how? this is the only problem!

Ran
01-18-2003, 02:53 AM
your write he has many "clones".:(

slave
01-21-2003, 05:05 PM
The thing we constantly hear is "if we kill saddam out then another will take his place" but come on, if a child does something wrong and he gets a smack for it, do you think he'll go away and do it again? No, they learn, its no different up there, just bigger toys and more difficult apllication. I for one have a desire to get over there and gut some motherfuckers for the loss and ednangerment of friends.

Darth Cypher
01-26-2003, 01:13 AM
Yeah, we have unfinished business that is over a decade old by now. An air war with improved smart bomb tech will decrease civilian casualties and collateral damage. However, knowing saddam, he will play on our belief in the Rules of Engagment once again and put turrets on hospital, etc. But we have done alright despite that. What will concern me is the Urban warfare that will need to be fought. But I don't know much about ground troops and such as I am in the Air Force.

We can prevent further problems in Iraq by education. No, not the school system but basically taking the "Imperialistic" role that many foreigners like to accuse us of and allow them to live a life free of the yoke that is saddam. The people later on will not stand for another dictatorship to rise up in it's place.....hopefully. Well, that is the only way I can see how we can solve the problem of another saddam rising up in his place.

Cbass
01-27-2003, 05:38 AM
I'm really surprised at you guys... I thought you were better informed than this. Saddam Hussein is not the problem, the United States foreign policy is. During the 80s, Iraq was an excellent country, as dictatorships go. They were selling their oil, had good relations with the US(were being ARMED by the US, including chemical weapons), and had no restrictions on trade.

Iraq only became the horrid mess it is now, because of the US embargo. Don't confuse this with UN sanctions, they are very much different. Those "no fly zones" are illegal, and constitute an act of war every time they enter Iraqi air space. In fact, the Iraqis have every right to shoot down US planes, and even try the pilots as war criminals.

As for why Britain is in? They want a piece of the pie too. France wouldn't mind it either, and neither would Russia, but neither are going to do it without UN sanctions.

Read this...

http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_102908,0008.htm

Darth Cypher
01-27-2003, 05:51 AM
We are informed. Remember back in the 80s we (the US) weren't exactly on good terms with Iran (Iran Contra and all). So when the Iraq/Iran war happened we simply chose the lesser of two evils.

Also, if we provided Iraq with chemical weapons (not saying we didn't) then we obviously know that they have them. We know he has them because he also used them on his own people.

Given this, we know he has them and has had them for a long time. The whole deal right now is that he hasn't proved that he destroyed his stockpiles. Just because we haven't found them doesn't mean he doesn't have them. The UN inspectors themselves report that they will need months for thier search.

Iraq has had years to find hiding places for them. Hell, I have no facts on this but it is an idea in my mind: What if he does have WMD? What if they are not in Iraq? In the Gulf War he transported his fighters to Iran to keep us from destroying them. Makes me wonder.

Also, one could interpret the no-fly zones differently. We placed them there to help protect the Kurd and Shiite rebels from saddam's forces.

Monkey-Magic-S15-R
01-27-2003, 05:58 AM
its ironic how George W Bush Sr could have got rid of Sadam a long time ago and now George W Bush Jr has to do it for him


The guy is a tyrant he persicutes, kills, murders, massacres anyone against him. We know what he's like.

The only thing i'm worried about is the economy if we were to go to war would it seriously fuck up our economy (UK) whereas BBC.co.uk has an article saying a short sharp war would boost the US economy.

Cbass
01-27-2003, 06:54 AM
My point is, Iraq has been singled out, when it is identical in politics, human rights records, and most other ways.

Anyone who is well informed about global politics will recognize that Israel proves a much greater threat to the safety and stability of the region. Arial Sharon would love nothing more than to see all the of Arabs gone, and I hope he loses the election tonight. Unfortunately, it looks like he's played the labour party out to be weak in ideals and action, so he might win.

We shouldn't even bother talking about weapons of mass destruction, because it's ridiculous to pretend that has anything to do with this. Yes, we all would like them to disarm, but only America and Britain want to invade, and that is simply for the oil.

Darth Cypher
01-27-2003, 06:58 AM
Sharon and Arafat are both pretty hard headed. I support Israel but still wonder about them. I heard something about the USS Liberty and how they fired onto it to draw us into some conflict or something.

Don't know about Iraq's human rights too much. Yeah, saddam did value education and made it available to his people. Yet he also gassed them too. Kind of reminds you about that one joke about the frozen bird that got shit on.

Monkey-Magic-S15-R
01-27-2003, 07:03 AM
Israel is a delicate subject they endured to many wars so they won't do anything diplomatically because whenever they have tried they have been ignored


All the disruption in the middle east seems to link back to the days of the ottoman empire and World War 1 and 2

messed up don't you think ?

Cbass
01-27-2003, 07:03 AM
My predictions for Israel are as such, they will build the temple on the Temple Mount, and the world will either end, or more likely, not. After that, the Christian right will no longer support Israel. Eventually, left wing leaders will get in power, and there will be peace.

Hey, if the Catholics and Protestants can get along in Northern Ireland, think the Israelis and the Palestians can work it out :)

Monkey-Magic-S15-R
01-27-2003, 07:05 AM
Originally posted by Cbass
My predictions for Israel are as such, they will build the temple on the Temple Mount, and the world will either end, or more likely, not. After that, the Christian right will no longer support Israel. Eventually, left wing leaders will get in power, and there will be peace.

Hey, if the Catholics and Protestants can get along in Northern Ireland, think the Israelis and the Palestians can work it out :)


erm ............you do realise that they still don't get along that well

Cbass
01-27-2003, 07:06 AM
Yes, but the violence has stopped. Consolidation comes after peace.

Monkey-Magic-S15-R
01-27-2003, 07:12 AM
Originally posted by Cbass
Yes, but the violence has stopped. Consolidation comes after peace.

yea that happened in Serbia remember when they invaded Kosovo

apparently they got on well for a while

this also stems back to the world wars

funny isn't it?

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