Bad 240Z

Hey guys Post up the baddest 240Z's you know. lets all enjoy!!

Here is probably one of the baddest I know.....

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Nice eye candy

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That about taps my collection out.

Dude I like, Love the originals.

How has this not been posted yet?

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How has this not been posted yet?

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it has been posted so many times that everyone just knows when 240Z's are mentioned it is among the top 3

Nope dont like it at all man. I dont like it when they swap those engines in. Keep it stock or throw in a RB26!

As a point of interest that is a VH45DETT powered 240Z.


I'd hit that ten times.

vh45>rb26 for swaps into the 240z... much larger displacement to start with... the car above is pushing 700hp and is basically all show...

bring on the arguement :p

vh45>rb26 for swaps into the 240z... much larger displacement to start with... the car above is pushing 700hp and is basically all show...

bring on the arguement :p

money being a non-issue of course.

you'd be surprised how FUCKING expensive it is to modify an rb26dett.... mind you the big things like custom forged stuff for the vh would be more expensive because there's more of it... but for everything else that could be custom fabricated it would be about the same...

that and the price of a 26dett these days is like.. a solid $4500 from a reputable dealer...

you'd be surprised how FUCKING expensive it is to modify an rb26dett.... mind you the big things like custom forged stuff for the vh would be more expensive because there's more of it... but for everything else that could be custom fabricated it would be about the same...

that and the price of a 26dett these days is like.. a solid $4500 from a reputable dealer...

yeah...ok. ill modify a RB26 to 750hp and you do the same with a VH45.

will do, just going to take me a few years to learn some things first :p

will do, just going to take me a few years to learn some things first :p

yeah me too.

yeah me too.

Like how not to break yourself?

Like how not to break yourself?

that one was weak...you get a D for the day. make that a D-

that one was weak...you get a D for the day. make that a D-

I'd just gotten off work, sue me.

I'd just gotten off work, sue me.

ill call my lawyers to add another one...

yeah...ok. ill modify a RB26 to 750hp and you do the same with a VH45.

Yeah but I would say that the VH would have a much better power curve. The torque down low would shit all over the RB26.

Yeah but I would say that the VH would have a much better power curve. The torque down low would shit all over the RB26.

yeah i know...so...

RB26's trans gearing keeps it in upper rpms so it wouldnt matter in most situations.

I am not a nissan guy.. that is why I signed on to this fourm cause I love them I just need to start learning some stuff about them. But I am an Inline 6 guy.... Well Inline guy basically. Post some pics and vids of a VET45 whatever whatever. I think that the 2JZ and the RB26 are some of the nicest engines ever made. I like rpm. thats just me tho. What is the V45 whatever you call it out of anyway?

It's out of the Infiniti M45, Q45 and FX45. It's a 4.5L, double over head cam, 32 valve V8 with forged crank/rods/pistons (which are also anti-friction molly coated), has titanium valves, micropolished cam lobes all in an aluminum block. It makes 340 hp and 333 lbs/ft of torque.

I would sell K3s soul to get a twin turbocharged VK45 under the hood of my Z. The only thing that could make it sweeter is if it employed the new direct fuel injection technology on the market.

As a side note the block is also available in 5.6L form where it is found under the hood of the fullsize Titan pickup, the Armada SUV and the Infiniti Q56. In this trim it makes 317 hp and 385 lbs/ft of torque.

It's out of the Infiniti M45, Q45 and FX45. It's a 4.5L, double over head cam, 32 valve V8 with forged crank/rods/pistons (which are also anti-friction molly coated), has titanium valves, micropolished cam lobes all in an aluminum block. It makes 340 hp and 333 lbs/ft of torque.

I would sell K3s soul to get a twin turbocharged VK45 under the hood of my Z. The only thing that could make it sweeter is if it employed the new direct fuel injection technology on the market.

As a side note the block is also available in 5.6L form where it is found under the hood of the fullsize Titan pickup, the Armada SUV and the Infiniti Q56. In this trim it makes 317 hp and 385 lbs/ft of torque.

True but in the 5.6L form it does not like to rev. The VH45 can be made to rev a fair bit higher than stock redline without any big problems due to its well made design.

True but in the 5.6L form it does not like to rev. The VH45 can be made to rev a fair bit higher than stock redline without any big problems due to its well made design.

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Well yeah, it's a truck motor. What were you expecting? 9000 rpm redline?

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Well yeah, it's a truck motor. What were you expecting? 9000 rpm redline?

Hell yes!!!

But I was just pointing out that the benefits of the extra displacement is outweighed by the lack of willingness to rev. And alluding to the fact that I think the VH45de is a better platform :naughty:

what do those new vk's rev to anyway? i heard something about like 8k or something... fuck that would sound amazing on a v8...

You also have to remember that that VK56 has be significantly detuned so it can run on 87 octane gas, as is befitting a truck motor.

eh...
5.6L. meh....

4.5L would be a better performance car motor. the VK56 will never rev like you would want because of the bore x stroke. i remember reading up about this a while ago, probably when Hodo was talking about his project.

VH45DETT would be an ultimate performance motor.

eh...
5.6L. meh....

4.5L would be a better performance car motor. the VK56 will never rev like you would want because of the bore x stroke. i remember reading up about this a while ago, probably when Hodo was talking about his project.

VH45DETT would be an ultimate performance motor.

My god, for once I agree with you.

There is an R33 GTST skyline with supercharged VH45 in Australia running 10s. He should have put it in an R32 GTST, its lighter.

i wonder how that fit in there... would make for a saweeeet ass swap for me... import a grd 3 skyline for 5 grand, sell off the engine... swap in the vh and give her a nice paint job... 10 second monster for 10 grand :D

i wonder how that fit in there... would make for a saweeeet ass swap for me... import a grd 3 skyline for 5 grand, sell off the engine... swap in the vh and give her a nice paint job... 10 second monster for 10 grand :D

I forsee only one problem with that....


You would be driving a skyline.... :icon16:

it'd get a lot of attention around here... and it would have 5 seats, which would be a bonus....

it'd get a lot of attention around here... and it would have 5 seats, which would be a bonus....

Draw attention maybe... but god damm its still an ugly fucking car...

Draw attention maybe... but god damm its still an ugly fucking car...

yeah and those GTO's are so drop dead gorgeous. pfttt...

hahaha yeah... i'ma have to agree with k3 on this one... people love the look of the skylines over here... cause they're something new i guess.

yeah and those GTO's are so drop dead gorgeous. pfttt...

Why yes, yes they are. In fact I remember you considering getting one a little while ago.

The R32 skyline is a fugly car. R33s are abit plain but passable. R34s at least have some defining lines. But R32s are nasty. There you want cheap, fast and not concerned about looking flash go for an Aristo. They are porn.

You guys are all caught up in the "SkyRine" hype. They dont look that good. :banghead:

Why yes, yes they are. In fact I remember you considering getting one a little while ago.

The R32 skyline is a fugly car. R33s are abit plain but passable. R34s at least have some defining lines. But R32s are nasty. There you want cheap, fast and not concerned about looking flash go for an Aristo. They are porn.

You guys are all caught up in the "SkyRine" hype. They dont look that good. :banghead:

not really...i would enjoy a RB26DETT AWD powered 300zx more than a skyline GTR but that does not mean i think skylines are ugly and the money it would take to build that i would rather just drive an R33. i just think that the 300zx is drod dead sexy. R34's are ok, R33's are the sex of them all, and R32's are meh.


considering a GTO, yeah right, i was just saying that to make you feel a little better about liking such a shitty car. :lol: j/k man. they look cheap...they dont look bad but they are far from 300zx/rx7 status. they are so common around here too. if they drivetrain wasnt made of glass it would make for a tad more practical japanese sports car. beings it is bigger and the backseats are actually a useable and it has AWD for adverse weather.

personally, Audi RS4's are sex on wheels.

not really...i would enjoy a RB26DETT AWD powered 300zx more than a skyline GTR but that does not mean i think skylines are ugly and the money it would take to build that i would rather just drive an R33. i just think that the 300zx is drod dead sexy. R34's are ok, R33's are the sex of them all, and R32's are meh.


considering a GTO, yeah right, i was just saying that to make you feel a little better about liking such a shitty car. :lol: j/k man. they look cheap...they dont look bad but they are far from 300zx/rx7 status. they are so common around here too. if they drivetrain wasnt made of glass it would make for a tad more practical japanese sports car. beings it is bigger and the backseats are actually a useable and it has AWD for adverse weather.

personally, Audi RS4's are sex on wheels.

RS4s look a bit bland to me. Looks like just another family car to me.

300zxs are hardly in the same league as an RX-7s in the looks dept. Z32s are ok but they are nowhere near an RX-7. The 1st and 3rd gen GTOs look good. The 2nd gen was a bit of a fuck up. 1st gen is classy and the 3rd is more of your typical "rice."

And you basically said you I said in reguards to skylines. R32s arent good. I can see why the R33 is a popular shape because its the least offensive. But in doing that, they took out a lot of the edgyness of it and made it somewhat bland in comparison to other sportscars. In one of our local car mags there was a comparison done between an R33 GTR and ,ironically, a C5 Corvette. In the looks catagory, the Skyline got hammered.

Travis said it all:
people love the look of the skylines over here... cause they're something new i guess.

Its the latest and greatest thing in the import scene in North America. People always want what they can't have.

yeah... that's the thing tho... if you show up down in australia driving say a done out eclipse, you'll be somewhat of a god because nobody's ever seen one in real life before... or perhaps a c6 z06... it's all what you're used to and not used to... also largely personal preference. i for one, love the look of the z31's 86 up... the 86 with it's ultimately cool mad 80's look, and the 87+ with its more modern soft front end, but with the nice wide flared fenders around the wheels and just the few styling touches you'd never see in a picture.

honestly i don't see what you see in those gto's, i think they're all a whole lot of fugly... but it seems you aussies are obsessed with the gto's and supra's... that's beyond me lol.

but i think we can all agree the fd is one of the best looking things to come out of the 90's.. period...

i think the the rx7 looks better than the 300zx but not much better. its jsut a differnt look. the 300zx has more of a bold appearance while the rx7 just kinda flows and swoops, very soft.

the funny thing is that the 300zx is usually ranked the better looking car by must magazine editors ad so-on. im partial between both...

as for gto's...meh. looks cheap...and is poorly engineered. when you are adding fake hood scoops because you designed the suspension components too far up in the chassis so the hood doesnt sit tall enough in the engine bay, your not working with one of the better cars built. ill tell you that much.

its by far the ugliest Japanese "supercar" to come out of the mid 90's, right next to Subaru's SVX. pfft...

See you guys are so used to the GTO so its nothing special to you. EVERYONE I have talked to and read about talking about the GTO in Aus, LOVES the look of the GTO. Same as a lot of people dont like the look of the Typhoons over here. I know for a fact you guys love the look of them. But because they share a common shell with the more common Falcon, a lot of people in Aus are desensitised to its looks. Where as because you guys dont get them, still love it.

Man if you had an eclipse in Aus... You have no idea how big your godlike status would be...

And K3, you have no idea on how much 300zx get ragged on in Aus :P They get hammered on everything, looks, engine, reliability... People just dont like them that much in Aus.

GTOs reliabilty cops some flack too but at least it has the looks to fall back on :evillol:

Man if you had an eclipse in Aus... You have no idea how big your godlike status would be...

And K3, you have no idea on how much 300zx get ragged on in Aus :P They get hammered on everything, looks, engine, reliability... People just dont like them that much in Aus.

GTOs reliabilty cops some flack too but at least it has the looks to fall back on :evillol:

yeah...those 3 statements right there show that the majority of austrailians do not know a vagina from there own assholes.

yeah...those 3 statements right there show that the majority of austrailians do not know a vagina from there own assholes.

And that one statement there proves you are the stereotypical American...

No regard for another country's opinion.

And that one statement there proves you are the stereotypical American...

No regard for another country's opinion.

i dont call what you said an opinion. come up with something valid and i will then respect your "opinion".

Not a valid opinion? Under what terms is an opinion "valid"?

Let me help you break it down for you if you dont understand what I said.

Man if you had an eclipse in Aus... You have no idea how big your godlike status would be...

Means it would be the opinion of the Australian public that you have a very nice rare car that would increase your status within the car community.

And K3, you have no idea on how much 300zx get ragged on in Aus :P They get hammered on everything, looks, engine, reliability... People just dont like them that much in Aus.

Means that it is the opinion of the majority of the Australian public that the 300zx does not look as good as its rivals, is not as reliable as its rivals nor has the potential as its rivals. And that it is the opinion of the general public that they would prefer other cars.

GTOs reliabilty cops some flack too but at least it has the looks to fall back on:evillol:

It is the opinion of the Australian public that the GTO looks very nice compared to its competitors but is not as reliable as its competitors.

Did that help it make the opinion any more valid??:icon16:

i'm not too sure about that 300zx reliability part... do your crankshafts spin the other way down there as well or something? :p

i'm not too sure about that 300zx reliability part... do your crankshafts spin the other way down there as well or something? :p

Note the "as its rivals" part.
Its up against the RB series and JZ series engines. As much as you guys love the VG, it isnt as well designed as those 2 series of engines. But our oil and petrol does drain a different way than yours :smokin:

Are you guys talking about the new GTO??? When it comes to looks of cars I dont really have a favourite I like all Jap styling, they all have personality to them. I like the R32, 33, and 34. They are all nice. They R34 took me a while to like but I am into it now. If you guys want to see a "Sex On Wheels" R33 here you go: http://www.tunerzine.com/articles.php?id=192 scroll down and look at all the pictures. Nice car!!!

Not a valid opinion? Under what terms is an opinion "valid"?

Let me help you break it down for you if you dont understand what I said.



Means it would be the opinion of the Australian public that you have a very nice rare car that would increase your status within the car community.



Means that it is the opinion of the majority of the Australian public that the 300zx does not look as good as its rivals, is not as reliable as its rivals nor has the potential as its rivals. And that it is the opinion of the general public that they would prefer other cars.



It is the opinion of the Australian pubic that the GTO looks very nice compared to its competitors but is not as reliable as its competitors.

Did that help it make the opinion any more valid??:icon16:

no none of that helped. i will validate what will be a valid opinion. you are taking what i say too technical. i am just busting your balls. i know you are entitled to your opinion, but what i am saying is that when your opinion makes any sense or has any reasoning behind it, i will then consider it a valid opinion by the "austrailian" public.

i am just saying, when a low class sporty coupe such as the Eclipse receives more respect than a 300hp Twin Turbo $50k sport coupe in a certain area, you cannot honestly take what that area or people have to say worth a grain of salt. its like a homeless person trying to explain to me how to become a millionaire. its just bulls***.

Note the "as its rivals" part.
Its up against the RB series and JZ series engines. As much as you guys love the VG, it isnt as well designed as those 2 series of engines. But our oil and petrol does drain a different way than yours :smokin:
oh so...the 300zx gets a bad rep because it is compared the the 2JZ and the RB but yet the 4g63 gets set on a silver platter because it is even worse than the VG. or about that crazy wankel. come on man...give the 300zx a fair argument atleast. you just shun out the good in favor of a car you like better. thats not a problem but if you are gonna argue, argue the facts, dont argue simply on your opinion.

no none of that helped. i will validate what will be a valid opinion. you are taking what i say too technical. i am just busting your balls. i know you are entitled to your opinion, but what i am saying is that when your opinion makes any sense or has any reasoning behind it, i will then consider it a valid opinion by the "austrailian" public.

i am just saying, when a low class sporty coupe such as the Eclipse receives more respect than a 300hp Twin Turbo $50k sport coupe in a certain area, you cannot honestly take what that area or people have to say worth a grain of salt. its like a homeless person trying to explain to me how to become a millionaire. its just bulls***.

... and yet how many americans rave on about the GTR without every having driven or owned one? The eclipse would get more respect because of the fact that you actually owned one and it was in Australia. Not because of any technical nature. If you owned an R32 GTR skyline in the US, you would get more respect for that than someone that who had a Z06. The Z06 is a MUCH better car technically but the the skyline has the exclusivity that gains the respect in its stead.

oh so...the 300zx gets a bad rep because it is compared the the 2JZ and the RB but yet the 4g63 gets set on a silver platter because it is even worse than the VG. or about that crazy wankel. come on man...give the 300zx a fair argument atleast. you just shun out the good in favor of a car you like better. thats not a problem but if you are gonna argue, argue the facts, dont argue simply on your opinion.

I never mentioned the 4g63. There are hardly any EVOs in Aus comparitively. I didnt mention the 13b either. I was more refering to the JZ and the RB engines, hence the because it is compared the JZ and the RB part of my argument. Skylines and soarers and supras are the most common 6 cyl import cars Aus and that is what I am comparing the 300zx to them. It is common knowlage that they ARE A BETTER ENGINE. I know you love your VGs but admit the obvious. They arent as good as the JZs or the RBs. At least the rotarys have insane hp potential in them even if the reliability isnt the greatest.

Does my argument have any "reasoning" or "sense" behind it now?

I never mentioned the 4g63. There are hardly any EVOs in Aus comparitively. I didnt mention the 13b either. I was more refering to the JZ and the RB engines, hence the part of my argument. Skylines and soarers and supras are the most common 6 cyl import cars Aus and that is what I am comparing the 300zx to them. It is common knowlage that they ARE A BETTER ENGINE. I know you love your VGs but admit the obvious. They arent as good as the JZs or the RBs. At least the rotarys have insane hp potential in them even if the reliability isnt the greatest.

Does my argument have any "reasoning" or "sense" behind it now?

you obviously missed my whole point. i dont care for the VG at all and i do think that the 2JZ and RB are better motors. i was saying that you are comparing the VG to these two motors without throwing in the GTO motor because we all know that the GTO motor fairs worse than the VG let alone the 2JZ and RB. your argument against the 300zx goes any further against your support for the GTO and its motor.

if i could have it my way...a 2JZ would be going in a 2 seater 300zx or rx7.

you obviously missed my whole point. i dont care for the VG at all and i do think that the 2JZ and RB are better motors. i was saying that you are comparing the VG to these two motors without throwing in the GTO motor because we all know that the GTO motor fairs worse than the VG let alone the 2JZ and RB. your argument against the 300zx goes any further against your support for the GTO and its motor.

if i could have it my way...a 2JZ would be going in a 2 seater 300zx or rx7.

I did mention that the was unreliable if you do recall. If not, GTOs reliabilty cops some flack and It is the opinion of the Australian public ....is not as reliable as its competitors. That should help. But I did say that its more forgiven than the VG as there havent been as many cases of the 6g shtting itself documented as the VG. I.E more people have heard about VGs shitting themselves than 6gs.

Based on the info I have recieved from talking to people, the main reliability issues with a GTO is the electrical and the drivetrain. I havent heard that many bad things about the engine itself. The reverse is true for the 300zx. And before you throw a tantrum and have a cry, I am not saying that this is completely true but its just what I have come to understand from my experiences and research.

I did mention that the was unreliable if you do recall. If not, and That should help. But I did say that its more forgiven than the VG as there havent been as many cases of the 6g shtting itself documented as the VG. I.E more people have heard about VGs shitting themselves than 6gs.

Based on the info I have recieved from talking to people, the main reliability issues with a GTO is the electrical and the drivetrain. I havent heard that many bad things about the engine itself. The reverse is true for the 300zx. And before you throw a tantrum and have a cry, I am not saying that this is completely true but its just what I have come to understand from my experiences and research.

i didnt say you didnt say it was unreliable. my point was that you are comparing the VG to the 2JZ and RB but you fail to include the 6G in that comparison. your excuse was simply because over there the VG usually gets compared to the 2JZ and RB but i suppose the 6g doesnt? come on...your goal is to make the GTO look superior but all you are doing is not including into the same comparisons which you think make the VG look inferior.

also, i suppose your "experiences and research" is limited. the 6g takes a shit on itself quite frequently here stateside and i doubt our motor is any different. you quite frequently see GTO/3000GT's go up for sale in the states for $2500 with a blown motor. if it isnt the transfer case or the tranny, it is the motor. the VG does take a shit on itself but its usually from stupidity or a test of its limits.

come on man...you cant feed me this bullshit and honestly tell me you believe it. i personally dont live in austrailia but i cannot see how mitsubishi does not get ragged on for its long time lack of build quality. but yet the 300zx does get ragged on because its not reliable...people who know anything about cars VERY rarely accuse the 300zx of being unreliable, it gets unreliable when owners dont fix something when it goes wrong or over boost it or modify it half ass or dont change the oil when it needs to be.

but i agree, the motors do blow up, things do go wrong...but maybe the biggest reason is because the 300zx is a car that is VERY rarely left stock, these car are modified which can be good or bad. if the wrong person tries to spend money int he wrong place you end up trashing a perfectly good motor because of stupidity. its simple. i dont know about over there but over here most VR4's you find are completely stock and if they arent they have exhaust and intake, nothing more. there are a very limited amount of VR4 mods or modifiers in this country.

bottom line: both motors are good and underrated. maybe you guys just got a bad run of VG's sent over there because nobody will find out.

i didnt say you didnt say it was unreliable. my point was that you are comparing the VG to the 2JZ and RB but you fail to include the 6G in that comparison. your excuse was simply because over there the VG usually gets compared to the 2JZ and RB but i suppose the 6g doesnt? come on...your goal is to make the GTO look superior but all you are doing is not including into the same comparisons which you think make the VG look inferior.

If you take the time to re-read my post you will note I said pretty much the same thing about about the GTO as I did about the 300zx but mentioned that people are more willing to put up with less reliability in a GTO because they like the looks better.

I think your the one with the bias here. I have already agreed that GTOs arent the most reliable cars in the world. we all know that the GTO motor fairs worse I dont think it does actually.


also, i suppose your "experiences and research" is limited. the 6g takes a shit on itself quite frequently here stateside and i doubt our motor is any different. you quite frequently see GTO/3000GT's go up for sale in the states for $2500 with a blown motor. if it isnt the transfer case or the tranny, it is the motor. the VG does take a shit on itself but its usually from stupidity or a test of its limits.

And your implying that the GTO's motor shitting itself for the same reasons?
But, FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN AND HEARD, which is by no way definitive, the 6g shits itself less than the vg but the electrics and drivetrain on a GTO shits itself more frequently than the Z32.

come on man...you cant feed me this bullshit and honestly tell me you believe it. i personally dont live in austrailia but i cannot see how mitsubishi does not get ragged on for its long time lack of build quality. but yet the 300zx does get ragged on because its not reliable...people who know anything about cars VERY rarely accuse the 300zx of being unreliable, it gets unreliable when owners dont fix something when it goes wrong or over boost it or modify it half ass or dont change the oil when it needs to be.

Well.... It doesn't. All the mitsu's I have owened and ones people I know have owened have been fine. I seriously dont know of a single one that has shat itself majorly. Mitsu now has a pretty good rep for reliability. FTOs are great little cars. You can hammer them all day. Same goes for EVOs. Its reguarded as much better than Ford and Holden. American made cars have the worst reputation. Their build quality reputation is on par with Kia and Daewoo.

Your trying to justify the VG blowing up through bad tuning, poor maintenance and stupidity. That happens to all motors, not just the VG, so you can take that out of the argument. Your acting as though no other engine has that problem. All motors should be reliable if they are maintained properly and modified properly.

but i agree, the motors do blow up, things do go wrong...but maybe the biggest reason is because the 300zx is a car that is VERY rarely left stock, these car are modified which can be good or bad. if the wrong person tries to spend money int he wrong place you end up trashing a perfectly good motor because of stupidity. its simple. i dont know about over there but over here most VR4's you find are completely stock and if they arent they have exhaust and intake, nothing more. there are a very limited amount of VR4 mods or modifiers in this country.

But are the GTOs that do blow badly modified? Poorly maintained? Thrashed? I think you will find that one of those will be the case.

bottom line: both motors are good and underrated. maybe you guys just got a bad run of VG's sent over there because nobody will find out.

All the TT Z32s we get are imported from Japan. And 90% of the GTOs are imports too. And yes both engines are good.:smokin:

If you take the time to re-read my post you will note I said pretty much the same thing about about the GTO as I did about the 300zx but mentioned that people are more willing to put up with less reliability in a GTO because they like the looks better.

I think your the one with the bias here. I have already agreed that GTOs arent the most reliable cars in the world. I dont think it does actually.




And your implying that the GTO's motor shitting itself for the same reasons?
But, FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN AND HEARD, which is by no way definitive, the 6g shits itself less than the vg but the electrics and drivetrain on a GTO shits itself more frequently than the Z32.



Well.... It doesn't. All the mitsu's I have owened and ones people I know have owened have been fine. I seriously dont know of a single one that has shat itself majorly. Mitsu now has a pretty good rep for reliability. FTOs are great little cars. You can hammer them all day. Same goes for EVOs. Its reguarded as much better than Ford and Holden. American made cars have the worst reputation. Their build quality reputation is on par with Kia and Daewoo.

Your trying to justify the VG blowing up through bad tuning, poor maintenance and stupidity. That happens to all motors, not just the VG, so you can take that out of the argument. Your acting as though no other engine has that problem. All motors should be reliable if they are maintained properly and modified properly.



But are the GTOs that do blow badly modified? Poorly maintained? Thrashed? I think you will find that one of those will be the case.



All the TT Z32s we get are imported from Japan. And 90% of the GTOs are imports too. And yes both engines are good.:smokin:


ehh...blasphemy. looks are subjective but the general consensus stateside is that GTO/3000gt's do not even hold a candle to the supreme looks of the Z32.

as for the VG, it only shits itself when mistreated. you talk to any mechanic over here i bet they can tell you that they have GTO's in the shop all the time with engine troubles that have never been misused. i know in my area there are probably 30-40 of them running around and they are always parked outside all of the shops for troubles in every area you can imagine. i am telling you, they get absolutely no respect around here. but obviously that is alot different than over yonder.

ill take my built VG and PE1420 turbos and ill be a happy man.

ehh...blasphemy. looks are subjective but the general consensus stateside is that GTO/3000gt's do not even hold a candle to the supreme looks of the Z32.

as for the VG, it only shits itself when mistreated. you talk to any mechanic over here i bet they can tell you that they have GTO's in the shop all the time with engine troubles that have never been misused. i know in my area there are probably 30-40 of them running around and they are always parked outside all of the shops for troubles in every area you can imagine. i am telling you, they get absolutely no respect around here. but obviously that is alot different than over yonder.

ill take my built VG and PE1420 turbos and ill be a happy man.

Lol, your busy trying to sell your turbos. What are you on about :P

Lol, your busy trying to sell your turbos. What are you on about :P

i think i may have them sold. which means GSXR 1000 coming this spring! :evillol: