Is Resistance Futile?

I acquired one of the 'legendary' 3500 ohm resistors, and I was wondering if there would really be any improvment from stuffing it into my temperature sensor?

It claims to BS the computer into thinking that the car is getting its optimal 46 degree or so air intake at all times, but will that really do anything for me?

I mean, with winter comming on temperatures are around that anyhow.

**And if there is improvemnt, how would I notice it? Will there be noticible "increased response" or anything significant? MPG won't work as if the system works the way it is said to, I'll loose MPG.....


A performance gain can't really be _this_ simple, can it?
(It does make sense why GM didn't do it this way)


I just thought I'd ask before I went through the trouble.

Thanks,
--VrmlBasic

P.S. I'm iffy about this resistor in the first place as my ohmeter rates it as ~1k ohms lower than 3500 (~2400), but then my multimeter is a tinker toy so I can't be certain one way or the other.

Futile, yes!
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When the engine is cold, the fuel mixture needs to be richer. Once the engine reaches a certain temperature, the PCM starts using the signal from the O2 sensor to vary the fuel mixture. This condition is normally referred to as “closed loop operation”. When in “closed loop” , the 02 sensor will control the fuel curve to maintain an AF/R of 14.7-1 (Ideal), regardless of ambient intake air readings.

Any advantage to "tricking the PCM" into thinking it is colder than it really is? (NO)
You really like to be riding around with a “rich fuel curve” all the time? (I don’t think so)
Is there any advantage to wasting fuel? (NO)
Would you notice any performance gain? (Nothing you will ever know, or feel!):nono:

Well 99 cents was wasted then....I think I'll live though :)

Cramming more air into an engine, and then spraying as much fuel as possible in should increase "power", but doing that is a waste. That's proof that the 'bigger is better' motto doesn't always work out. (Isn't that how these old engines work anyhow? Isn't that why we love em? :)

My ride gets ~20 MPG as it is, and I don't wanna shave off any of that.

Also, wouldn't lying to your car backfire? The chip is there for a reason--it isn't the man trying to keep your car down; I would think that if the air became hot (less 02), and you still had all 12 valves pouring gas into the cylinder with volume to put Niagara to shame, the fuel wouldn't burn properly as there wouldn't be enough 02 to go around, meaning that more fuel would be unburnt and get expelled in the exhaust.

So, not only would you kill your wallet at the pump, but you'd kill it at Emissions Testing as well, putting those hydrocarbons out like there's no tomorrow. (not my favorite expression)


Just to clear one final thing up: Isn't this the same as those $50+ "speed chips" that you can 'install' in your ride? And yet people use these chips? I'm missing something.


Sadly, I guess there's no simple way to 'gain performance' for my ride. Since my car isn't a Cube (scions and elements suck) I guess Resistance truly is Futile.

Thanks for disproving the resistance legend.

Just to clear one final thing up: Isn't this the same as those $50+ "speed chips" that you can 'install' in your ride? And yet people use these chips? I'm missing something.
Yes, I assume that the “speed chips” are nearly identical to the plain $0.99 resistor; however, it does come encapsulated in a nice epoxy enclosure, with wiring connectors. Total manufacturing cost would be less than $2.00, if made in China! People who buy these gimmicks, may also be buying, “Swamp land in Florida” to build their dream retirement home!:rofl:
Are humans gullible? http://www.websmileys.com/sm/violent/001.gif

Now, if you want something that really works, you might want to consider some of my “Redneck Ethanol”! The manufacturing process is quite simple and I can sell it for less than premium gasoline. Best part is, it will boost your HP by 10%! Shipping cost are inflated due to the “Hazardous Waste” handling cost.
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/9808/redneckethanolno0.jpg

I want to comment on the 20MPG... Is that town driving or highway?

For town driving thats pretty normal..and in fact great.

For highway..
I get 27MPG on my LeSabre and 29MPG on my Park on flat freeway...

I dont worry too much about in town if the highway mileage is good.

I know shifting, accelerating, and driving conditions can all be different for any car or driver and change MPG in town. I cant fix whats not broke.

Good Luck..

Well 99 cents was wasted then....I think I'll live though :)

Cramming more air into an engine, and then spraying as much fuel as possible in should increase "power", but doing that is a waste. That's proof that the 'bigger is better' motto doesn't always work out. (Isn't that how these old engines work anyhow? Isn't that why we love em? :)

My ride gets ~20 MPG as it is, and I don't wanna shave off any of that.

Also, wouldn't lying to your car backfire? The chip is there for a reason--it isn't the man trying to keep your car down; I would think that if the air became hot (less 02), and you still had all 12 valves pouring gas into the cylinder with volume to put Niagara to shame, the fuel wouldn't burn properly as there wouldn't be enough 02 to go around, meaning that more fuel would be unburnt and get expelled in the exhaust.

So, not only would you kill your wallet at the pump, but you'd kill it at Emissions Testing as well, putting those hydrocarbons out like there's no tomorrow. (not my favorite expression)


Just to clear one final thing up: Isn't this the same as those $50+ "speed chips" that you can 'install' in your ride? And yet people use these chips? I'm missing something.


Sadly, I guess there's no simple way to 'gain performance' for my ride. Since my car isn't a Cube (scions and elements suck) I guess Resistance truly is Futile.

Thanks for disproving the resistance legend.
If you want a hot rod, get something other than a big tanker. :2cents:

Sure, it can be done, but it's going to take a lot more than a chip or a resistor.

BTW, I own a 94 LeSabre, so I'm not bashing the car. Just not my first choice for a hot rod platform....

Now, if you want something that really works, you might want to consider some of my “Redneck Ethanol”! The manufacturing process is quite simple and I can sell it for less than premium gasoline. Best part is, it will boost your HP by 10%! Shipping cost are inflated due to the “Hazardous Waste” handling cost.

:rofl: :rofl:

Gee, I wonder if you can bid on that stuff on EBay. :lol:

Good one Bo.

BTW - I prefer Xylene. Much better than piss.

Bob,
I thought about doing the EBay thing, but not sure that I could supply the demand. :rofl:
I'm not sure you noticed the catalyst for my “Redneck Ethanol” formula is sitting on the trunk lid. I usually use Budweiser; however, Miller Light works just as well. The rest of the formula is a trade secret. This works fine in the Buick & Olds, however, I use Toluene in the “Hot Rods”.:lol:

And to think, people call me disturbed :rolleyes:

A LeSabre hot rod huh? Doesn't sound like a bad Idea, until you realize that most Rods have 10x the HP of the stock 92 LeSabre. That might be the only fact in XXX that wasn't exaggerated lol.

Good thing I didn't want a LeSabre hot rod...although it would give the Buick line a new image, and make comments like "My granny can go faster than that" a reality....

All I want is to get the most performance outta my ride as I can feasably do....a little modification here and there, not swapping engine blocks and what not. The better my ride performs, the better she is overall.

More performance means the lag when carrying 5 homies will be eliminated...and the World Order will be reestablished when I can beat that PoS 1999 chevy malibu that my friend thinks is the greatest (piece of crap) around....


And about your Ethanol claims, I think I'll have to take you to court for false advertising. Ethanol only has 75% the power of gasoline.....

**And I question your Redneck Method of insertion....to put liquid into the gas tank, something must be inserted, or else the flap won't be moved and the liquid will drain out the spill hole.

I think that's getting way to close to your ride for comfort......You might wanna get some help for that one... ;)

--VB

Bob,
I thought about doing the EBay thing, but not sure that I could supply the demand. :rofl:
I'm not sure you noticed the catalyst for my “Redneck Ethanol” formula is sitting on the trunk lid. I usually use Budweiser; however, Miller Light works just as well. The rest of the formula is a trade secret. This works fine in the Buick & Olds, however, I use Toluene in the “Hot Rods”.:lol:

I watched Jay Leno the other night on his EBay night and someone was selling a piece of toast without the face of Jesus and believe it or not it sold. :lol: I guess you can sell anything on EBay.

You wouldn't by chance have a special adapter or do you recommend using a hose and funnel. Based on your pic I would have a problem getting it to fit. :uhoh:

I did some research on octane boosters to include race gas and was suprised to find out that Xylene is the main component. I use VP Racing C10 at the dragstrip in my GTP. The Europeans have a minimum octane level of 95 on their regular unleaded and the way they make up the difference is by blending with Xylene (aromatic compounds).

Bud Light is my first choice and Miller Light second. :cheers:

BTW, that neighborhood in the "redneck ethanol" pic doesn't fit the redneck way of life....there's a non 20 year old truck in the driveway (I don't think it's a ford even--thank God), the dude in the pic doesn't look it, and there's a minimansion across the street, behind the house on the right.

Who ever heard of a redneck owning a sedan? Of course not! You're either a Real Redneck, who stocks passengers in the bed, or a Wannabe Redneck who buys a Nissan Titan with the Super Crew Cab with heated leather seats and the Rear DVD player with wireless headphones.
**Basically a minivan with a bed.

And Sir, that is the whitest neck on a 'redneck' that I've ever seen....even the fat guy with the Johnny Cash black clothing ensemble on Blue Collar Comedy (the one who sucks) has a redder neck than that.

2 claims of false advertising ;)

BTW, that neighborhood in the "redneck ethanol" pic doesn't fit the redneck way of life....
Would this be more sutiable for the "Redneck Home" pic?:naughty:
http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/3262/redneckpicsdreamhomewr9.jpg

Oh, that would be perfect, all it needs is a keg tapper shapped chimney!

But, :thinkerg:


A Port-a-pot by the front porch be a convenience factor too :thumbsup:

Oh, that would be perfect, all it needs is a keg tapper shapped chimney!

But, :thinkerg:


A Port-a-pot by the front proch be a convenience factor too :thumbsup:

:rofl:

Outhouse would be nice. :lol:

Yup, you have to watch out for those mountain crabs, they jump 30 feet high. And those pigs come in handy to make methane gas.

Yup, you have to watch out for those mountain crabs, they jump 30 feet high.

They'll assimilate you too. :yikes:

Nah, I was talking about the lack of rundown rancher houses, busted up streets, couple of rusty cars in the backyard, maybe a ford :yugosmili: (God forbid) in the driveway, and of course....some looser house across the street with the stupid low-rider pickup....

(The latter isn't redneck, but there are loosers ruining the redneck areas with their non 'neck ways)

They're a redneck by location, but not by action.

.....and they're spreading.....

**Yes, you will be assimilated. :eek2: