anybody here ever been on an international flight?
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elementskater15
10-29-2006, 12:10 PM
I have had my flight for Thailand booked for a couple weeks now. I have never been on an airplane before in my life. I used American Airlines and my flight is out of Atlanta. Has anyone ever used them before? How do I get my tickets? Also, how can I exchange my money for another currency?
beef_bourito
10-29-2006, 12:14 PM
you can exchange you money for other currencies at the bank. i don't know how the banking system works in the states for this since it's a unit banking system instead of a branch bak system like in canada but you should be able to go in and just buy some forreign currency.
Toksin
10-29-2006, 01:25 PM
Airline food is shit. Have a big feed before your flight and sleep as much as you can. Being in a tin-can for half a day really gets to you.
For changing money, when you get to the other side, in the international terminal there is always a Bureau de Change that allows you to exchange money.
If you booked through a travel agent they will tell you how to get your tickets, if not, just call AA up and ask. Chances are you'll just pick up your boarding passes at the airport.
Hope you shopped around for flights instead of just picking the first one that came to mind.
Hope you have a visitor's visa sorted too.
For changing money, when you get to the other side, in the international terminal there is always a Bureau de Change that allows you to exchange money.
If you booked through a travel agent they will tell you how to get your tickets, if not, just call AA up and ask. Chances are you'll just pick up your boarding passes at the airport.
Hope you shopped around for flights instead of just picking the first one that came to mind.
Hope you have a visitor's visa sorted too.
elementskater15
10-29-2006, 01:33 PM
I dont need a visa for Thailand as long as my stay is under 30 days. I will get one while I am there though because I'm going back for two months for summer. And yea, I called and they told me to get my passes at the Airport after they verify my passport. Half a day...I wish. Try 30 hours. I got a deal on my flight..kinda. One of my friends dads is an air traffic controller in the Fort Worth airport and got me like $400 off what everyone else was asking. $1462. Do you think it might be a good idea to send money to my girlfriend and have her exchange it before i get there?
ec437
10-29-2006, 01:44 PM
AAA can exchange money for you. You can also just use your credit card or the ATMs over there and it will do it automatically, and you will usually get a better rate than you can with a moneychanger, a bank, or AAA.
2.2 Straight six
10-29-2006, 02:05 PM
i've been on loads of international flight. i think my first one was when i was only a few weeks old.
nothing to worry about, they're just very very boring and you're stuck in a seat for ages.
my longest flight was 26 hours, in two legs.
nothing to worry about, they're just very very boring and you're stuck in a seat for ages.
my longest flight was 26 hours, in two legs.
Toksin
10-29-2006, 02:08 PM
I dont need a visa for Thailand as long as my stay is under 30 days. I will get one while I am there though because I'm going back for two months for summer. And yea, I called and they told me to get my passes at the Airport after they verify my passport. Half a day...I wish. Try 30 hours. I got a deal on my flight..kinda. One of my friends dads is an air traffic controller in the Fort Worth airport and got me like $400 off what everyone else was asking. $1462. Do you think it might be a good idea to send money to my girlfriend and have her exchange it before i get there?
Nah, seriously dude, it's piss easy to exchange money. Just go to the Bureau, give em your dollars and tell em what currency you want back. Voila.
Are you flying in two legs?
BTW get up occasionally and stretch your legs on the flight. Sitting in the same seat for hours and hours on end = pain.
Nah, seriously dude, it's piss easy to exchange money. Just go to the Bureau, give em your dollars and tell em what currency you want back. Voila.
Are you flying in two legs?
BTW get up occasionally and stretch your legs on the flight. Sitting in the same seat for hours and hours on end = pain.
freakray
10-29-2006, 02:22 PM
Been on 26 international flights.....still alive - they can't be that bad.
If you plan on carrying money, go to your bank and get travellers checks, they're 100% safer than carrying cash in any shape or form and are insurable so if you lose them you can get them replaced.
If you plan on carrying money, go to your bank and get travellers checks, they're 100% safer than carrying cash in any shape or form and are insurable so if you lose them you can get them replaced.
XeVeNskyLiNE
10-29-2006, 04:13 PM
I've been on 2 going to England and back. They were 18hrs a peice. The worse part is seeing the same shitty movie over and over again. Like Toksin said, eat a bunch before you go, and I suggest you tire yourself out so that you'll sleep as much as possible on the flight.
Other than that, its easy as pie, the whole ordeal is pretty straight forward.
Other than that, its easy as pie, the whole ordeal is pretty straight forward.
2.2 Straight six
10-29-2006, 05:06 PM
i've been on 72 international flights. they're not that bad.
(that's as many as i can remember, there may be more)
(that's as many as i can remember, there may be more)
elementskater15
10-29-2006, 05:06 PM
sorry, i haven't been checking my thread, my 10 minute power nap turned in to me sleeping all afternoon. Anyhow..my flight is from Atlanta to Fort Worth, Fort Worth to Tokyo, Tokyo to Bangkok. All this makes me feel so much better about going. I think, my plane leaves around 8am and arrives at 11am the next day, which is 11pm in Bangkok. Still, Im not looking forward to the texas-japan flight
replicant_008
10-29-2006, 05:08 PM
:2cents: Flying internationally...
First of all, the currency thing. Travellers' cheques are a safe way to go - AMEX ones are good but note that in some instances you will pay commissions to cash them - which is okay. An option is to take some US currency and exchange it at your destination but given the context of your note then the chances of getting a good rate and not being ripped off would suggest that travellers' cheques would be a smart move.
Secondly, the flight....
Aircraft are generally non-smoking internationally so if you do smoke then bear in mind that smoking on a flight can lead to being fined and imprisoned.
An aircraft flying at 38,000 feet is pressurised but it's equivalent to being at about 6,000 feet above sea level which isn't too bad (unless you just been diving then it's really bad - don't do any scuba diving within 48 hours of leaving either end) but keep in mind that the humidity is really low - so travelling on a long haul flight can lead to dehydration so drink plenty of liquids, try to avoid the free alcohol (it's a diuretic and will make dehydration worse) and dare I say it you might consider eye drops, lip balm and a moisturising cream.
Generally, airline food isn't flash. If you are a vegetarian or have special dietary requirements you might want to contact the airline to make a special meal request.
Be conscious of quarantine requirements - generally don't take food from the aircraft off the plane or if you do dump in the amnesty bin before you get to customs. Remember also that some countries have laws that may result in capital punishment (ie execution) or long sentences in nasty places for the possession of controlled substances, have a nice day.
If you take any drugs including those over the counter you may want to check what you can take - different countries have different laws.
DVT - Deep Vein Thrombosis is a potentially fatal condition that arises when after spending a long time in one position, clots form in veins a long way from the heart and then migrate thru the circulatory system to potentially fatal locations. Ways to reduce the risk include wearing stockings or compression garments (like athletic tights) on your lower legs, stay hydrated and stretching/exercising on the aircraft from time to time which brings me to...
CAT - Clear Air Turbulence. Sorry to worry you but having witnessed this you should be warned. Clear Air Turbulence can sometimes result in the aircraft changing altitude suddenly and without warning - I'd seriously recommend you wear the safety belt at all times on the plane even if the seatbelt light is off. Watching folk fly out of their seats and hit the overhead lockers and then fall onto the floors and seats of an aircraft was a good lesson to wear the belt.
I can tell you techniques for improving your chances of surviving an accident but I think that's perhaps what you might not wish to know right now...
Thirdly, when away from the US here's a few pointers...
Not everyone in the world speaks english - speaking in a funny accent, slowly and loudly to someone as if they are disabled isn't clever or amusing and marks you possibly as an ignorant tourist...
Wear something comfortable and worn... new clothes and shoes indicate someone with cash... not necessarily the right message...
Not everyone likes the USA. By all means, I have no problems with you being proud of your country but may I suggest that you want to blend in as much as you can - avoid wearing US flags on your clothing and luggage and avoid attracting attention to yourself (also thieves and muggers target US folk as 'easy marks' as they assume you are more likely to be wealthy).
Same goes for conversation - avoid discussions on politics, religion or faith. Some folks may take offence over what you may consider an innocuous remark and by the way, avoid conversations about the King of Thailand, he is revered and you can avoid problems by avoiding talking about him
Courtesy is universal if you are courteous and considerate yourself. Thank you is generally understood everywhere.
Trust no-one. By all means, be friendly and enjoy folks experience and company but keep your possessions in sight, don't carry on day pack on your back (in front of you is a good idea), keep maps and digital cameras out of sight and don't make the rookie mistake of having someone take a photo of you... well not if you want the camera back
Consider a money belt, don't carry your wallet in your back pocket. Carry only enough money to get you need done for the day (which means if you are dusted or robbed you'll only lose that amount). Use the safe if you at a reputable hotel to store traveller's cheque and other valuables.
Be aware. Listening to your IPod may be cool at home but I'd not use it while you are wandering around. If you see, hear (or conversely feel) what's happening around then trust your instincts if you feel something isn't right... mine have got me out of scrapes including the riots in LA in 1992...I have spent most of my life travelling and loved just about every moment - keep safe and keep aware of your surroundings, listen to folk and you'll find it's the best education and amusement that you can have in life..
First of all, the currency thing. Travellers' cheques are a safe way to go - AMEX ones are good but note that in some instances you will pay commissions to cash them - which is okay. An option is to take some US currency and exchange it at your destination but given the context of your note then the chances of getting a good rate and not being ripped off would suggest that travellers' cheques would be a smart move.
Secondly, the flight....
Aircraft are generally non-smoking internationally so if you do smoke then bear in mind that smoking on a flight can lead to being fined and imprisoned.
An aircraft flying at 38,000 feet is pressurised but it's equivalent to being at about 6,000 feet above sea level which isn't too bad (unless you just been diving then it's really bad - don't do any scuba diving within 48 hours of leaving either end) but keep in mind that the humidity is really low - so travelling on a long haul flight can lead to dehydration so drink plenty of liquids, try to avoid the free alcohol (it's a diuretic and will make dehydration worse) and dare I say it you might consider eye drops, lip balm and a moisturising cream.
Generally, airline food isn't flash. If you are a vegetarian or have special dietary requirements you might want to contact the airline to make a special meal request.
Be conscious of quarantine requirements - generally don't take food from the aircraft off the plane or if you do dump in the amnesty bin before you get to customs. Remember also that some countries have laws that may result in capital punishment (ie execution) or long sentences in nasty places for the possession of controlled substances, have a nice day.
If you take any drugs including those over the counter you may want to check what you can take - different countries have different laws.
DVT - Deep Vein Thrombosis is a potentially fatal condition that arises when after spending a long time in one position, clots form in veins a long way from the heart and then migrate thru the circulatory system to potentially fatal locations. Ways to reduce the risk include wearing stockings or compression garments (like athletic tights) on your lower legs, stay hydrated and stretching/exercising on the aircraft from time to time which brings me to...
CAT - Clear Air Turbulence. Sorry to worry you but having witnessed this you should be warned. Clear Air Turbulence can sometimes result in the aircraft changing altitude suddenly and without warning - I'd seriously recommend you wear the safety belt at all times on the plane even if the seatbelt light is off. Watching folk fly out of their seats and hit the overhead lockers and then fall onto the floors and seats of an aircraft was a good lesson to wear the belt.
I can tell you techniques for improving your chances of surviving an accident but I think that's perhaps what you might not wish to know right now...
Thirdly, when away from the US here's a few pointers...
Not everyone in the world speaks english - speaking in a funny accent, slowly and loudly to someone as if they are disabled isn't clever or amusing and marks you possibly as an ignorant tourist...
Wear something comfortable and worn... new clothes and shoes indicate someone with cash... not necessarily the right message...
Not everyone likes the USA. By all means, I have no problems with you being proud of your country but may I suggest that you want to blend in as much as you can - avoid wearing US flags on your clothing and luggage and avoid attracting attention to yourself (also thieves and muggers target US folk as 'easy marks' as they assume you are more likely to be wealthy).
Same goes for conversation - avoid discussions on politics, religion or faith. Some folks may take offence over what you may consider an innocuous remark and by the way, avoid conversations about the King of Thailand, he is revered and you can avoid problems by avoiding talking about him
Courtesy is universal if you are courteous and considerate yourself. Thank you is generally understood everywhere.
Trust no-one. By all means, be friendly and enjoy folks experience and company but keep your possessions in sight, don't carry on day pack on your back (in front of you is a good idea), keep maps and digital cameras out of sight and don't make the rookie mistake of having someone take a photo of you... well not if you want the camera back
Consider a money belt, don't carry your wallet in your back pocket. Carry only enough money to get you need done for the day (which means if you are dusted or robbed you'll only lose that amount). Use the safe if you at a reputable hotel to store traveller's cheque and other valuables.
Be aware. Listening to your IPod may be cool at home but I'd not use it while you are wandering around. If you see, hear (or conversely feel) what's happening around then trust your instincts if you feel something isn't right... mine have got me out of scrapes including the riots in LA in 1992...I have spent most of my life travelling and loved just about every moment - keep safe and keep aware of your surroundings, listen to folk and you'll find it's the best education and amusement that you can have in life..
ericn1300
10-29-2006, 05:14 PM
That's a long flight, get some noise canceling headphones. I've seen the Koss models on sale for under $30. As far as exchanging money, only exchange as much as you might need for tips and local transportation. For every thing else use your charge card, they get the "million dollar" exchange rate and pass it along to you saving you up to 20%. Never exchange money at the hotel desk, worse rates in town.
elementskater15
10-29-2006, 05:27 PM
well...I wont be drinking and smoking, cause I'm 17. Will my bank card work over seas? It is a visa card...and US money is like gold in Thailand. I just hope there's not a baby next to me on the long flight..ugh.
94SolGrl
10-29-2006, 05:50 PM
your bank card will work overseas, but I found it's never a bad idea to keep some US currency. When I was in Mexico I would usually have about US$50 or so on me (what I usually carry), and my bank card. I withdrew from a Mexican ATM a few times, and just used my card normally at restaurants, etc.
Same story when I went to Spain/Italy.
Same story when I went to Spain/Italy.
ec437
10-29-2006, 05:53 PM
well...I wont be drinking and smoking, cause I'm 17. Will my bank card work over seas? It is a visa card...and US money is like gold in Thailand. I just hope there's not a baby next to me on the long flight..ugh.
Yes it will work. They can usually let you pay in dollars or in their local currency when you use your card. Either way it is cheaper that changing your money and paying in cash.
Yes it will work. They can usually let you pay in dollars or in their local currency when you use your card. Either way it is cheaper that changing your money and paying in cash.
Jimster
10-29-2006, 05:59 PM
I've had more International flights than I've had hot dinners (Well not quite, but y'know). Airline entertainment is usually shit (Though that said, QANTAS and Singapore Airlines seem to do OK), plus American Airlines charge $5 for a head set, so bring music/portable entertainment with you, it'll keep you sane at the very least.
Food on American Airlines is actually surprisingly good, compared to most airlines at least, but I'd reccomend a feed at the airport pre-take off (NOT Quiche, unless you want to sit through the Take-off with the massivest bowel cramp desperately wanting a shit, as I found...)
Also be sure to get up and take a walk every now and then.
That's about all you really need to know...
Food on American Airlines is actually surprisingly good, compared to most airlines at least, but I'd reccomend a feed at the airport pre-take off (NOT Quiche, unless you want to sit through the Take-off with the massivest bowel cramp desperately wanting a shit, as I found...)
Also be sure to get up and take a walk every now and then.
That's about all you really need to know...
vinnym86
10-29-2006, 06:15 PM
i dunno if anyone mentioned it or not, BRING ASPRIN! going around half the world in an aluminum tube with a baby crying infront of you, a fatman snoring behind you, and a little boy going nuts next to you will drive you insane. If you don't die of a brain aneurism, you'll end up trying kill yourself to escape the tormenting pain you have in your frontal lobe.
XeVeNskyLiNE
10-29-2006, 06:24 PM
Doesn't airline travel just sound so fun!
I suggest that if you have a bunch of handheld entertainment (such as PSP's, DVD players, etc.), bring it all in a backpack or some kind of bag as a carry on, but make sure you have small lock on it, just in case. Bring a SHITLOAD of batteries too.
I suggest that if you have a bunch of handheld entertainment (such as PSP's, DVD players, etc.), bring it all in a backpack or some kind of bag as a carry on, but make sure you have small lock on it, just in case. Bring a SHITLOAD of batteries too.
ec437
10-29-2006, 06:34 PM
Doesn't airline travel just sound so fun!
I suggest that if you have a bunch of handheld entertainment (such as PSP's, DVD players, etc.), bring it all in a backpack or some kind of bag as a carry on, but make sure you have small lock on it, just in case. Bring a SHITLOAD of batteries too.
I've found these to be more cumbersome and annoying than anything else. Besides that it is just more stuff to get stolen. Bring a book and you can do something constructive.
I suggest that if you have a bunch of handheld entertainment (such as PSP's, DVD players, etc.), bring it all in a backpack or some kind of bag as a carry on, but make sure you have small lock on it, just in case. Bring a SHITLOAD of batteries too.
I've found these to be more cumbersome and annoying than anything else. Besides that it is just more stuff to get stolen. Bring a book and you can do something constructive.
elementskater15
10-29-2006, 06:45 PM
ok, i think i might get a used psp or DS or something...maybe a portable dvd player. do you think people will be offended if I watch The Best of Jenna Jameson? Books are my mortal enemy..
I'll have to get up and walk every few hours, because I have a lot of kidney problems and when I gotta go, I gotta go. I still hope there's no kids go berserk...I dont know how do dispose of bodies on an airplane
I'll have to get up and walk every few hours, because I have a lot of kidney problems and when I gotta go, I gotta go. I still hope there's no kids go berserk...I dont know how do dispose of bodies on an airplane
Jimster
10-29-2006, 06:53 PM
ok, i think i might get a used psp or DS or something...maybe a portable dvd player. do you think people will be offended if I watch The Best of Jenna Jameson? Books are my mortal enemy..
I'll have to get up and walk every few hours, because I have a lot of kidney problems and when I gotta go, I gotta go. I still hope there's no kids go berserk...I dont know how do dispose of bodies on an airplane
Headphones + Screen turned away from neighbouring passengers :p (If in window seat, if not you're on your own) just errrrr..... Don't get too carried away....
I'll have to get up and walk every few hours, because I have a lot of kidney problems and when I gotta go, I gotta go. I still hope there's no kids go berserk...I dont know how do dispose of bodies on an airplane
Headphones + Screen turned away from neighbouring passengers :p (If in window seat, if not you're on your own) just errrrr..... Don't get too carried away....
freakray
10-29-2006, 06:56 PM
If you know you have to get up frequently, make sure you request an aisle seat.
XeVeNskyLiNE
10-29-2006, 06:57 PM
I've found these to be more cumbersome and annoying than anything else. Besides that it is just more stuff to get stolen. Bring a book and you can do something constructive.
Thats why I said make sure to throw a lock on it. It's still better than watching the same movie 5x per flight.
Buy some new games or DVD's then just wait till the long flight to break out the goods. That'll atleast keep you entertained for while, just make sure to take breaks so you won't get a headache or somethin.
As for the Jenna, take a "bathroom break".
Thats why I said make sure to throw a lock on it. It's still better than watching the same movie 5x per flight.
Buy some new games or DVD's then just wait till the long flight to break out the goods. That'll atleast keep you entertained for while, just make sure to take breaks so you won't get a headache or somethin.
As for the Jenna, take a "bathroom break".
vinnym86
10-29-2006, 06:58 PM
I travel a lot on airlines, within the US, though. I'm poor and don't even have a portable CD player (I figure, only time i listen to music is in my car, might as well splurge on that) So, I read a lot of magazines. Usually, I end up buying Time, Automobile, Motor Trend, and Road & Track. Keeps me busy for 5-6 hours.
beef_bourito
10-29-2006, 07:02 PM
+1 for the money belt. the last thing you need is a lost passport with no money and no ID.
bank cards don't always work, i was in europe (france switzerland austria and germany) and i only found one place where mine actually worked.
and as for the alcohol, flights don't always use the drinking age for the country they're leaving, i had some wine on my way to france and im only 18 (i was 17 at the time though), by the way if anyone ever flies with air canada, don't drink their red wine it's the worst wine i've ever had.
bank cards don't always work, i was in europe (france switzerland austria and germany) and i only found one place where mine actually worked.
and as for the alcohol, flights don't always use the drinking age for the country they're leaving, i had some wine on my way to france and im only 18 (i was 17 at the time though), by the way if anyone ever flies with air canada, don't drink their red wine it's the worst wine i've ever had.
vinnym86
10-29-2006, 07:04 PM
well canada's drinking age is 19, so they might not have bothered carding you. AA is probably going to check if you're 21. however, nothing says you can't ask the guy next to you to buy it for you, and pay him back.
2.2 Straight six
10-29-2006, 07:06 PM
y'all should come to England.
you can drink from age 5. 100% legal.
you can drink from age 5. 100% legal.
beef_bourito
10-29-2006, 07:09 PM
I travel a lot on airlines, within the US, though. I'm poor and don't even have a portable CD player (I figure, only time i listen to music is in my car, might as well splurge on that) So, I read a lot of magazines. Usually, I end up buying Time, Automobile, Motor Trend, and Road & Track. Keeps me busy for 5-6 hours.
haha that's the only time i buy automotive magazines. i usually buy road and track, sometimes car and driver if it's got a cool car in it, popular science, muscle and fitness, men's health, and whatever car and bike or fitness mags they have. i also bring music though, and i just got noise cancelling headphones for a 7 hour bus ride and they work wonders. i got them for just over $30 canadian (so just under $30 american) and they drown out almost any noise and sound great.
haha that's the only time i buy automotive magazines. i usually buy road and track, sometimes car and driver if it's got a cool car in it, popular science, muscle and fitness, men's health, and whatever car and bike or fitness mags they have. i also bring music though, and i just got noise cancelling headphones for a 7 hour bus ride and they work wonders. i got them for just over $30 canadian (so just under $30 american) and they drown out almost any noise and sound great.
Jimster
10-29-2006, 07:13 PM
y'all should come to England.
you can drink from age 5. 100% legal.
Exactly, if you don't believe him, then look at Jay.
you can drink from age 5. 100% legal.
Exactly, if you don't believe him, then look at Jay.
2.2 Straight six
10-29-2006, 07:15 PM
and as for the alcohol, flights don't always use the drinking age for the country they're leaving, i had some wine on my way to france and im only 18 (i was 17 at the time though), by the way if anyone ever flies with air canada, don't drink their red wine it's the worst wine i've ever had.
i've only been drunk on a flight once, coming back from Germany on a school trip. you swing from irratable and restless to full of energy and excitable. worse because you can't control it. needless to say, the teachers weren't impressed, nor were the flight crew...
"Are you okay, Sir?"
"Nope."
"Oh?"
"I am drunk..."
"....."
"Yout got any booze back there?"
i was then given a warning from the flight attendant, i fell asleep about 5 minutes later.
word of warning, don't fall asleep on a plane with all your mates around...
i've only been drunk on a flight once, coming back from Germany on a school trip. you swing from irratable and restless to full of energy and excitable. worse because you can't control it. needless to say, the teachers weren't impressed, nor were the flight crew...
"Are you okay, Sir?"
"Nope."
"Oh?"
"I am drunk..."
"....."
"Yout got any booze back there?"
i was then given a warning from the flight attendant, i fell asleep about 5 minutes later.
word of warning, don't fall asleep on a plane with all your mates around...
beef_bourito
10-29-2006, 07:17 PM
well canada's drinking age is 19, so they might not have bothered carding you. AA is probably going to check if you're 21. however, nothing says you can't ask the guy next to you to buy it for you, and pay him back.
no, they told me on the plane that you had to be 16 to drink, and it's not 19 everywhere in canada because it's a provincial law, in 3 out of the 10 provinces the drinking age is 18, everywhere else is 19. that's why you get a bunch of people where i live (ottawa, ontario) going to hull (which is in quebec only a few minutes away) to drink when they're 18. i've only been once because it's pretty dirt and i'd much rather stay on campus and drink or go to a house party than go to a bar where you see a bunch of jailbate with fake id's, plus the whole place is just dirty.
i've only been drunk on a flight once, coming back from Germany on a school trip. you swing from irratable and restless to full of energy and excitable. worse because you can't control it. needless to say, the teachers weren't impressed, nor were the flight crew...
"Are you okay, Sir?"
"Nope."
"Oh?"
"I am drunk..."
"....."
"Yout got any booze back there?"
i was then given a warning from the flight attendant, i fell asleep about 5 minutes later.
word of warning, don't fall asleep on a plane with all your mates around...
i wasn't drunk on the plane, i only had one glass of wine, i actually didn't finish it because it was just too bad. besides, on the way back from germany i was too bus hitting on the girls from the other school we were with. i wanted to join the mile high club but they were mostly either too young, too sluty, or saving themselves for mariage.
no, they told me on the plane that you had to be 16 to drink, and it's not 19 everywhere in canada because it's a provincial law, in 3 out of the 10 provinces the drinking age is 18, everywhere else is 19. that's why you get a bunch of people where i live (ottawa, ontario) going to hull (which is in quebec only a few minutes away) to drink when they're 18. i've only been once because it's pretty dirt and i'd much rather stay on campus and drink or go to a house party than go to a bar where you see a bunch of jailbate with fake id's, plus the whole place is just dirty.
i've only been drunk on a flight once, coming back from Germany on a school trip. you swing from irratable and restless to full of energy and excitable. worse because you can't control it. needless to say, the teachers weren't impressed, nor were the flight crew...
"Are you okay, Sir?"
"Nope."
"Oh?"
"I am drunk..."
"....."
"Yout got any booze back there?"
i was then given a warning from the flight attendant, i fell asleep about 5 minutes later.
word of warning, don't fall asleep on a plane with all your mates around...
i wasn't drunk on the plane, i only had one glass of wine, i actually didn't finish it because it was just too bad. besides, on the way back from germany i was too bus hitting on the girls from the other school we were with. i wanted to join the mile high club but they were mostly either too young, too sluty, or saving themselves for mariage.
elementskater15
10-29-2006, 07:19 PM
i hope i can sit next to someone that i can strike up a conversation with. Well...off to ebay for video games..I've got like 140 hours of anime burned to dvd's too, i think I'm set
replicant_008
10-29-2006, 09:26 PM
Kidney problems? Then don't drink alcohol and drink heaps of water (lest you become a customer of my employer - believe me you don't want to be a customer, we'll look after you but trust me if you end up on my customer master file it's not good!)
Anyway here's the short list of how to increase your chances of being alive if something goes wrong (this is based on actual accident investigations):
Wear your seatbelt
Wear a leather jacket and sturdy shoes during take off and landing (less likely to suffer lacerations from debris) and in the event you have to run you won't worry about broken glass and other debris if you have to run (seriously)
Don't sit next to the door - doors and hatches have opened on aircraft and sucked passengers clean out of the aircraft - besides it's cold there
Sit in an aisle seat - you'll be better able to get out than being pinned in by the obese guy who can't get their belt off
Don't inflate the lifejacket inside the plane... if the aircraft is flooded you'll find it difficult to dive under the water if you need to get out the door
Count exactly how many rows to the exits (in front of you as well as behind you) - in the event of low cabin visibility it will help you find the exits and get out of the aircraft
Get away from the aircraft if it does crash land and stay away - fire remains a huge risk
Don't worry about your cabin luggage in the event of an emergency - get out while you can!
Carry a cell phone but never use it in the cabin or turn it on while the plane is aloft
Finally, don't have anything too heavy in the overhead locker above your seat. In the event it opens or someone opens it... watch your head!
Anyway here's the short list of how to increase your chances of being alive if something goes wrong (this is based on actual accident investigations):
Wear your seatbelt
Wear a leather jacket and sturdy shoes during take off and landing (less likely to suffer lacerations from debris) and in the event you have to run you won't worry about broken glass and other debris if you have to run (seriously)
Don't sit next to the door - doors and hatches have opened on aircraft and sucked passengers clean out of the aircraft - besides it's cold there
Sit in an aisle seat - you'll be better able to get out than being pinned in by the obese guy who can't get their belt off
Don't inflate the lifejacket inside the plane... if the aircraft is flooded you'll find it difficult to dive under the water if you need to get out the door
Count exactly how many rows to the exits (in front of you as well as behind you) - in the event of low cabin visibility it will help you find the exits and get out of the aircraft
Get away from the aircraft if it does crash land and stay away - fire remains a huge risk
Don't worry about your cabin luggage in the event of an emergency - get out while you can!
Carry a cell phone but never use it in the cabin or turn it on while the plane is aloft
Finally, don't have anything too heavy in the overhead locker above your seat. In the event it opens or someone opens it... watch your head!
vinnym86
10-29-2006, 09:29 PM
Carry a cell phone but never use it in the cabin or turn it on while the plane is aloftDidn't the Mythbusters disprove that?
Oz
10-29-2006, 09:54 PM
i wanted to join the mile high club but they were mostly either too young, too sluty, or saving themselves for mariage.
Too slutty to join the Mile High club with you? :banghead:
Too slutty to join the Mile High club with you? :banghead:
replicant_008
10-29-2006, 09:59 PM
[/list]Didn't the Mythbusters disprove that?
Well that will be an interesting defence, that Adam and Jamie said it's okay, if you are found to be intentionally breaching the applicable aviation regulations.
Civil Aviation rules in several countries prohibit the use of handheld electronic transmission devices including phones, transmitting PDAs and other devices during passenger flights and restrict the use of other electronic devices such as CD and/or MP3 players, PDA and laptop computers during take off or landing.
At best, you will be asked to turn off the device. Pilots always reserve the right to refuse to take a passenger who does not follow their requests, in which case you will be offloaded as will your baggage until they find a flight with a pilot willing to fly you (and your passenger record will be duly noted and can result in blacklisting) - worse, you can be fined and/or imprisoned under the applicable regulation or legislation.
It's the same with cellphones in a gas station, technically it's unlikely to trigger a problem but there's two things - there's a sign prohibiting and legally, you are operating an electronic device in a hazardous materials area which is a breach of the safety regulations in several countries...
Well that will be an interesting defence, that Adam and Jamie said it's okay, if you are found to be intentionally breaching the applicable aviation regulations.
Civil Aviation rules in several countries prohibit the use of handheld electronic transmission devices including phones, transmitting PDAs and other devices during passenger flights and restrict the use of other electronic devices such as CD and/or MP3 players, PDA and laptop computers during take off or landing.
At best, you will be asked to turn off the device. Pilots always reserve the right to refuse to take a passenger who does not follow their requests, in which case you will be offloaded as will your baggage until they find a flight with a pilot willing to fly you (and your passenger record will be duly noted and can result in blacklisting) - worse, you can be fined and/or imprisoned under the applicable regulation or legislation.
It's the same with cellphones in a gas station, technically it's unlikely to trigger a problem but there's two things - there's a sign prohibiting and legally, you are operating an electronic device in a hazardous materials area which is a breach of the safety regulations in several countries...
beef_bourito
10-29-2006, 10:01 PM
well, there was only one girl that was just too sluty. she's one of those "i don't know where she's been" girls. don't know how many of the guys on the trip tapped her but it was alot. the rest were ugly, young, or saving themselves.
vinnym86
10-29-2006, 10:50 PM
replicant_008, i'm not saying be a rebel and go against what you're told to do on the flight, i was just asking if there is serious danger behind the use of a cellphone on a flight, as you had made a list of survival techniques on a plane.
replicant_008
10-29-2006, 10:58 PM
Well the cellphone is actually for use in the event that the plane goes down. The reason is twofold - you can call for help and if the location of the crash site isn't known, then authorities may be able to triangulate from the signal from your cellphone. That hopefully means help will arrive faster which increases the survival of more folk (well usually).
Not using it in the plane is basically following the rules and in non-passenger aviation pilots use cell phones all the time. On the other hand, the avionics including fly by wire are more sophisticated in a jet airliner and I don't really want to discover if it can trigger a problem...
Not using it in the plane is basically following the rules and in non-passenger aviation pilots use cell phones all the time. On the other hand, the avionics including fly by wire are more sophisticated in a jet airliner and I don't really want to discover if it can trigger a problem...
Toksin
10-29-2006, 11:16 PM
ThatRoundHeadedKid
10-30-2006, 01:31 AM
i've been on 72 international flights. they're not that bad.
(that's as many as i can remember, there may be more)
flying from Britain to France or anywhere else in Europe doesn't count.....:p
I've never been outside US territory other than Mexico, but that was before I could even remember....
My family's done several trips from home in NJ to Hong Kong, with transfer in Tokyo. 23 hour flight for the 1980s, so before I was born.
the longest flight I've ever been on....probably from KEWR (Newark Liberty in NJ) to KEAA (Eagle/Vail Airport, Colorado), probably max 4 hours...so basically, I've been given a break when it comes to flights.
(that's as many as i can remember, there may be more)
flying from Britain to France or anywhere else in Europe doesn't count.....:p
I've never been outside US territory other than Mexico, but that was before I could even remember....
My family's done several trips from home in NJ to Hong Kong, with transfer in Tokyo. 23 hour flight for the 1980s, so before I was born.
the longest flight I've ever been on....probably from KEWR (Newark Liberty in NJ) to KEAA (Eagle/Vail Airport, Colorado), probably max 4 hours...so basically, I've been given a break when it comes to flights.
fredjacksonsan
10-30-2006, 08:11 AM
Wow, there's an awful lot of misinformation here, so having worked at a major airline for some time I had to chime in:
On an international flight:
-The food is usually better than domestic since international flights are regulated by an international convention and food and service are the only competitive items. But the portions may be a bit small - so on a long flight always bring some energy bars or something just in case. I'm not saying that the economy food is good, but it's better than the economy food you get on a flight wholly within the US.
-Headsets are generally free, even in economy, as are drinks. Since it's a US carrier they'll probably go by the 21 drinking age.
-The air is very dry at altitude, so make sure to drink plenty of fluids or you will get dehydrated.
-Movies are generally available, check with the airline for the systems in use. Most carriers now have small screens in the back of the seat in front of you. You'll get charged for movies/headsets for the portions of your trip inside the US, so wait until you're on the international flight....
-Getting up and moving around every couple of hours IS a very good idea. So is sleeping, if you can, because the time change will be harder to deal with if you're not rested.
Carry a cell phone but never use it in the cabin or turn it on while the plane is aloft
Didn't the Mythbusters disprove that?
Check with your cell provider to see if it will work overseas. If it won't, no sense in bringing it.
The regulation for cell phone use from planes is by the FCC, not the FAA. What happens when you're way up high is that you connect through multiple cell towers and cause issues/disruption with the network. There is also the chance that your cell could disrupt the radio navigation gear in the plane, something you don't want to happen (for example) over the mountains in clouds at 250 knots. Using it from the cabin is ok, just wait until the Captain makes the announcement after you land.
Money:
You can exchange your cash either with your bank (many charge a fee) or at a kiosk at just about any international airport. VISA is widely accepted overseas, so you should be ok there. As far as US dollars in Thailand, if they're gold then I'd carry some with me. But generally you're better off using the local currency, that way you don't attract as much attention.
Keep an eye on your wallet(front pants pocket isn't a bad idea), don't flash a lot of cash, and keep your passport in a front pocket with your wallet. Break up your cash, put some in your wallet, some in the backpack if you have one to carry on, and some in the moneybelt or whatever. That way you'll still have some if something happens. Personally, I've never had a problem but I haven't been to Thailand.
Hope that helps.
On an international flight:
-The food is usually better than domestic since international flights are regulated by an international convention and food and service are the only competitive items. But the portions may be a bit small - so on a long flight always bring some energy bars or something just in case. I'm not saying that the economy food is good, but it's better than the economy food you get on a flight wholly within the US.
-Headsets are generally free, even in economy, as are drinks. Since it's a US carrier they'll probably go by the 21 drinking age.
-The air is very dry at altitude, so make sure to drink plenty of fluids or you will get dehydrated.
-Movies are generally available, check with the airline for the systems in use. Most carriers now have small screens in the back of the seat in front of you. You'll get charged for movies/headsets for the portions of your trip inside the US, so wait until you're on the international flight....
-Getting up and moving around every couple of hours IS a very good idea. So is sleeping, if you can, because the time change will be harder to deal with if you're not rested.
Carry a cell phone but never use it in the cabin or turn it on while the plane is aloft
Didn't the Mythbusters disprove that?
Check with your cell provider to see if it will work overseas. If it won't, no sense in bringing it.
The regulation for cell phone use from planes is by the FCC, not the FAA. What happens when you're way up high is that you connect through multiple cell towers and cause issues/disruption with the network. There is also the chance that your cell could disrupt the radio navigation gear in the plane, something you don't want to happen (for example) over the mountains in clouds at 250 knots. Using it from the cabin is ok, just wait until the Captain makes the announcement after you land.
Money:
You can exchange your cash either with your bank (many charge a fee) or at a kiosk at just about any international airport. VISA is widely accepted overseas, so you should be ok there. As far as US dollars in Thailand, if they're gold then I'd carry some with me. But generally you're better off using the local currency, that way you don't attract as much attention.
Keep an eye on your wallet(front pants pocket isn't a bad idea), don't flash a lot of cash, and keep your passport in a front pocket with your wallet. Break up your cash, put some in your wallet, some in the backpack if you have one to carry on, and some in the moneybelt or whatever. That way you'll still have some if something happens. Personally, I've never had a problem but I haven't been to Thailand.
Hope that helps.
2.2 Straight six
10-30-2006, 10:28 AM
flying from Britain to France or anywhere else in Europe doesn't count.....:p
they're flights between nations, so they do count.
and out of those 72 flights, only 2 were between france and britain.
the other times i've been to france we either went by train, car (car on train) or ferry (school minibus on ferry).
they're flights between nations, so they do count.
and out of those 72 flights, only 2 were between france and britain.
the other times i've been to france we either went by train, car (car on train) or ferry (school minibus on ferry).
2.2 Straight six
10-30-2006, 10:29 AM
the longest flight I've ever been on....probably from KEWR (Newark Liberty in NJ) to KEAA (Eagle/Vail Airport, Colorado), probably max 4 hours...so basically, I've been given a break when it comes to flights.
is that it? i've done 26 hours...
sydney to London via San Fransisco.
is that it? i've done 26 hours...
sydney to London via San Fransisco.
ec437
10-30-2006, 11:24 AM
is that it? i've done 26 hours...
sydney to London via San Fransisco.
That ain't no non-stop flight!
Doesn't count.:icon16:
sydney to London via San Fransisco.
That ain't no non-stop flight!
Doesn't count.:icon16:
beef_bourito
10-30-2006, 11:31 AM
the longest non-stop flight i've done is 8 hours, toronto to paris. the bitch of it is that we flew from montreal (about 3 hours away from my school) to toronto to paris where we could have flown from mtl to paris.
BrodyP
10-30-2006, 11:56 AM
Good read guys I am also going over seas for the first time the first week in April. I scored 2 free tickets from my Amex card so the wife and I are flying into Amsterdam then taking the train to France, Italy and Rome. I will buy some noise cancelling headphones thats a great idea I didnt think of. Since I'll be backpacking I dont want to bring the PSP and such so a good book should be perfect. I'll probably have alot of questions when the trip date arrives regarding backpacking cause I have no idea how thats gonna work lol.
2.2 Straight six
10-30-2006, 12:12 PM
That ain't no non-stop flight!
Doesn't count.:icon16:
ok, then 16 hours is the longest i've done.
Doesn't count.:icon16:
ok, then 16 hours is the longest i've done.
drunken monkey
10-30-2006, 12:16 PM
MY own personal travel habits.
i) never ever buy/bring magazines that you would usually buy to read on the plane. I suffer from never being able to dispose of my regular buys and so that issue of car, evo, octane, classic and performance cars WILL come with me to Hong Kong and all the way back, eating up valuable hand luggage space and weighing a ton after carrying it for 3+ hours before actually putting it in the over head lockers.
ii) never bring a games console to play on the flight because the carger, games and whatnot will only see use on flights and the rest of the time, it will only add weight, reduce luggage space and cause worry when i don't have it on my person.
iii) CD player is the same but these days Ipods and Phones with MP3 players are better because they are smaller and you don't need to carry media for it.
On my usual long haul flight (LDN - HKG), the "radio" stations are usually not too bad and the choice of television channels is often very good and we get a very good mix of films to watch and I have learnt that I really don't need to bring anything to keep me company besides a book.
iv) No need to buy a bottle of water for the flight as it is freely available and really, you won't really drink anything you bring with you anyway.
v) I tend to only convert the cash I think I would need for everyday basics. Everything else such as purchases and big bills are taken care of by my fleixible friend. When I went to Russia I was told to convert to US$ what I need and the change to local currency when I needed it. In HK, I tend to convert to HK$ when I am there as i get a better rate and less charges there but that's because i have a bank account there. In general, it helps to know what the charges and rates are like over there before you go so you can prepare accordingly.
Incidentally, never send cash overseas if you can help it.
vi) It never hurts to ask if there are any fre seats on the flight. Depending on your flight you might able to move into a seat with an empty one next to it (i.e 3 people in a 4 seat bay or 2 people in a 3seat).
i) never ever buy/bring magazines that you would usually buy to read on the plane. I suffer from never being able to dispose of my regular buys and so that issue of car, evo, octane, classic and performance cars WILL come with me to Hong Kong and all the way back, eating up valuable hand luggage space and weighing a ton after carrying it for 3+ hours before actually putting it in the over head lockers.
ii) never bring a games console to play on the flight because the carger, games and whatnot will only see use on flights and the rest of the time, it will only add weight, reduce luggage space and cause worry when i don't have it on my person.
iii) CD player is the same but these days Ipods and Phones with MP3 players are better because they are smaller and you don't need to carry media for it.
On my usual long haul flight (LDN - HKG), the "radio" stations are usually not too bad and the choice of television channels is often very good and we get a very good mix of films to watch and I have learnt that I really don't need to bring anything to keep me company besides a book.
iv) No need to buy a bottle of water for the flight as it is freely available and really, you won't really drink anything you bring with you anyway.
v) I tend to only convert the cash I think I would need for everyday basics. Everything else such as purchases and big bills are taken care of by my fleixible friend. When I went to Russia I was told to convert to US$ what I need and the change to local currency when I needed it. In HK, I tend to convert to HK$ when I am there as i get a better rate and less charges there but that's because i have a bank account there. In general, it helps to know what the charges and rates are like over there before you go so you can prepare accordingly.
Incidentally, never send cash overseas if you can help it.
vi) It never hurts to ask if there are any fre seats on the flight. Depending on your flight you might able to move into a seat with an empty one next to it (i.e 3 people in a 4 seat bay or 2 people in a 3seat).
capricorn
10-30-2006, 01:54 PM
For international flights, I always get an aisle seat and walk around the plane or stand by the window/open area when it is permissable. I can't stand sitting in the seat all those hours.
The best trick I've learned its bringing a neck brace onboard with you. You can sleep with it on and no neck cramps. Plus you get preferential treatment from the attendants. Best $15 I've ever spent.
cap
The best trick I've learned its bringing a neck brace onboard with you. You can sleep with it on and no neck cramps. Plus you get preferential treatment from the attendants. Best $15 I've ever spent.
cap
highteknology
10-30-2006, 03:13 PM
one thing i do when i go overseas is to put a rubber band around your wallet. it may sound stupid but by doing this it you will notice if someone is trying to take it out. the rubber band will catch on the inside of your pocket and you will feel it tugging. but like everything else, if people want something, they will take.
elementskater15
10-30-2006, 03:18 PM
about the middle of next month I'm going to contact AA again, just to make sure of everything. Everything that seems applicable has been noted, thanks everyone
ec437
10-30-2006, 03:44 PM
Repeated again: don't take video games.
Toksin
10-30-2006, 03:56 PM
Don't sit at the back of the plane.
12 hours Singapore to Auckland, back of the plane, with turbulence all the way.
RUMBLERUMBLERUMBLE
Oh, first rule of flying: Turbulence always hits as soon as you get your meal.
Second rule of flying: Turbulence always hits harder as soon as you lock the bathroom door.
12 hours Singapore to Auckland, back of the plane, with turbulence all the way.
RUMBLERUMBLERUMBLE
Oh, first rule of flying: Turbulence always hits as soon as you get your meal.
Second rule of flying: Turbulence always hits harder as soon as you lock the bathroom door.
2.2 Straight six
10-30-2006, 04:05 PM
flights are boring without turbulence and rough landings.
elementskater15
10-30-2006, 05:53 PM
i think i'd rather live than have fun 37000 feet above Tera firma
2.2 Straight six
10-30-2006, 05:54 PM
bah!
i get bored if there isn't lots of turbulence. i don't like rollercoasters, so turbulence is my substitute.
i get bored if there isn't lots of turbulence. i don't like rollercoasters, so turbulence is my substitute.
ec437
10-30-2006, 09:25 PM
i think i'd rather live than have fun 37000 feet above Tera firma
Over the ocean its more like 40000 feet...:icon16:
Over the ocean its more like 40000 feet...:icon16:
WickedNYCowboy
10-31-2006, 04:50 PM
Too slutty to join the Mile High club with you? :banghead:
Thats a hell of an oxymoron.
Thats a hell of an oxymoron.
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