Different lean on a 16v scirocco
FLCLTaro
10-23-2006, 10:13 PM
I just got myself a 88 16v scirocco. The suspention consists of H&R progressive lowering springs (black sport) which lower the car about 1.5 inches. It also has BOGE strut inserts, (which I think are about stock strength). The aftermarket rims extend just past the fender of the car. The springs are less than a year old but strut inserts are probly atleast a couple years old. When I push it through a hard left it corners buetifully, but when I take it through a right turn hard enough I can get the front drivers side tire to rub against its fender. Ive been told by many people that this is probly because of the spring. But they seem to new to be bad already, could it maby be something else? Everyones opinion is absolutly welcome. Thanks.
TheSilentChamber
10-23-2006, 11:23 PM
lowered car with wide rims... tires rubbing.... is this really a question?
curtis73
10-24-2006, 10:41 PM
More likely, its production tolerance. There are many reasons why, but a good measurement of the clearance to the fender is in order. On my 96 Impala SS, the rear axle is shifted to the right by a complete 1.5". I don't have rubbing since its the rear axle, but if I want that sexy 315mm rubber I'll have to run a different offset on the left and right.
Its also possible that the fender was dented and repaired with a slightly different contour, or that the alignment is different on the right than the left. Often times alignment shops will put different camber on each side to help correct for crowned roads. Its also possible that caster is affecting the steering and camber gains in the turn.
Big wheels and big rubber mean big measuring. I'm sure its not the spring. Even if it endured 50 years of sagging, the spring may have a different installed height, but not a different rate.
There are a thousand reasons why one side could rub and the other be fine, but I'm sure the spring is not one of them.
Its also possible that the fender was dented and repaired with a slightly different contour, or that the alignment is different on the right than the left. Often times alignment shops will put different camber on each side to help correct for crowned roads. Its also possible that caster is affecting the steering and camber gains in the turn.
Big wheels and big rubber mean big measuring. I'm sure its not the spring. Even if it endured 50 years of sagging, the spring may have a different installed height, but not a different rate.
There are a thousand reasons why one side could rub and the other be fine, but I'm sure the spring is not one of them.
curtis73
10-24-2006, 10:43 PM
The other consideration is that your springs are probably in the neighborhood of 500 lb per inch rate. When you put your butt in the driver's seat, that accounts for 3/8" right there. Then you get your weight slinging around a turn at .5g and your 187 lbs is suddenly 374. That's a lot of weight transfer for a car that only weighs 2400 lbs.
2.2 Straight six
10-24-2006, 10:45 PM
could it also be the side-to-side weight balance? lowered car, if there's more weight on one side, it's more likely to rub.
FLCLTaro
10-27-2006, 01:10 AM
Hey, thanks a lot for you extensive replies. It mostly helps to know that its not the spring thats the problem. Also I never really considered the amount that my wieght would effect the car's weight balance. Though its probly that and a combination of something else. Either way thanks again.
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