dohc non v-tec or sohc v-tec?
91hondahatchback
09-08-2002, 07:29 PM
i was wondering whichone i should get
can u people help me out with price, parts, and compatability
i have a 1991 hatchback cx with a 1.5 L in it now
can u people help me out with price, parts, and compatability
i have a 1991 hatchback cx with a 1.5 L in it now
EFsleeper
09-08-2002, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by 91hondahatchback
i was wondering whichone i should get
can u people help me out with price, parts, and compatability
i have a 1991 hatchback cx with a 1.5 L in it now
It may all depend on what you want to long term with your car. I personally say :monkeypis on VTEC. I am a fan of driveable power, not revvable power. Meaning I like it when you make power lower in the RPM band. I hate riding in friends cars and waiting for 5K rpm to come up before we start going anywhere.
I assume that you are from Canada since you list your car as a CX. If you have a 1.5 now you will have to convert the fuel injection system over no matter what swap you do.
The two most common Non Vtec swaps in your car would be the ZC and Integra LS motor. The ZC would be cheaper of the two. The LS has a bit more power and aftermarket support as far as parts go.
If I were you I would check the Honda Hybrid page. This isnt really a tutorial page on how to swap engines. If you want opinions I would read up on it there or some place else then come back here to post questions if you still dont understand something.
i was wondering whichone i should get
can u people help me out with price, parts, and compatability
i have a 1991 hatchback cx with a 1.5 L in it now
It may all depend on what you want to long term with your car. I personally say :monkeypis on VTEC. I am a fan of driveable power, not revvable power. Meaning I like it when you make power lower in the RPM band. I hate riding in friends cars and waiting for 5K rpm to come up before we start going anywhere.
I assume that you are from Canada since you list your car as a CX. If you have a 1.5 now you will have to convert the fuel injection system over no matter what swap you do.
The two most common Non Vtec swaps in your car would be the ZC and Integra LS motor. The ZC would be cheaper of the two. The LS has a bit more power and aftermarket support as far as parts go.
If I were you I would check the Honda Hybrid page. This isnt really a tutorial page on how to swap engines. If you want opinions I would read up on it there or some place else then come back here to post questions if you still dont understand something.
plkelley
09-08-2002, 07:43 PM
I would definetly go with ZC (dohc non-vtec). VTEC is nice if you dont mind dumping your clutch at 5 grand everytime you take off:)
91hondahatchback
09-08-2002, 08:09 PM
that is what a lot of people have said but i live in ct
so if i got the zc motor what am i looking at for parts i need to get
so if i got the zc motor what am i looking at for parts i need to get
plkelley
09-08-2002, 08:21 PM
ZC runs about 500 w/out shipping and is a direct bolt in, no need to change anything.
EFsleeper
09-08-2002, 09:24 PM
Originally posted by plkelley
ZC runs about 500 w/out shipping and is a direct bolt in, no need to change anything.
WRONG. This is only true if you are keeping your stock transmission which would be RETARDED. And if you did keep your trans you would still have to rewire the car, change the ECU, get different Intake, get different header ( unless the ZC comes with one, either way youll need a cat because your 1.5's is built into the manifold, a resistor box for the MPFI, new radiator hose and so on. If you go with an SI or ZC trans you will be in it for new axles and hubs.
Like I said before. go to a page that specializes in swap info where it is all laid out. Try hasport.com or search yahoo. Dont rely on people here. Most of them are 16-20 year olds that know nothing more than the fact that the world is round....
ZC runs about 500 w/out shipping and is a direct bolt in, no need to change anything.
WRONG. This is only true if you are keeping your stock transmission which would be RETARDED. And if you did keep your trans you would still have to rewire the car, change the ECU, get different Intake, get different header ( unless the ZC comes with one, either way youll need a cat because your 1.5's is built into the manifold, a resistor box for the MPFI, new radiator hose and so on. If you go with an SI or ZC trans you will be in it for new axles and hubs.
Like I said before. go to a page that specializes in swap info where it is all laid out. Try hasport.com or search yahoo. Dont rely on people here. Most of them are 16-20 year olds that know nothing more than the fact that the world is round....
91hybridDX
09-08-2002, 10:03 PM
i resent that remark im 18 and have done about 5 honda motor swaps and can help with most qwestions of that sort, i cant tell whats wrong with a motor but i can swap em out like a pro
Melt
09-08-2002, 10:10 PM
I say you go dohc zc
gunnmen01
09-08-2002, 10:13 PM
I dont launch at 5 grand nor do i have to wait for revs to come up to get power(thats what N2O is for), ZC's are cheap but unreliable(from what i've heard). The ls motor is good, the D16 z6(92-95) or y8(96-00) is also a good swap. As for the quality of people here , there alot of good people here with damn good info. By all means use your own opinion though....
gunnmen01
gunnmen01
H4Bangin
09-09-2002, 05:41 AM
It all depends on what u are lookin for daily driver or wekkend racer
me i am goin with a 5th gen d16z6 for now only because i commute 160miles ever day :bandit:
me i am goin with a 5th gen d16z6 for now only because i commute 160miles ever day :bandit:
turbcivic
09-09-2002, 07:06 AM
SOHC- Vtec would work. Not as expesive as the b16 but can be made to make the seem amount of power<cough>nitrous<cough>
plkelley
09-09-2002, 08:22 AM
Sorry EFsleeper, oh god of civics, what a dick. First of all i will be the first to say that i was wrong without your shitty attitude. Sorry i was thinkin SI instead of DX. People like you give everyone else in these forums bad reps. Just say no thats for the SI, the DX needs..... Easy nough dick!
EFsleeper
09-09-2002, 11:21 AM
Originally posted by plkelley
Sorry EFsleeper, oh god of civics, what a dick. First of all i will be the first to say that i was wrong without your shitty attitude. Sorry i was thinkin SI instead of DX. People like you give everyone else in these forums bad reps. Just say no thats for the SI, the DX needs..... Easy nough dick!
Well gee, he specified what model his car was. Is it that hard to read CX? People like me? people like me end up helping out the people who get screwed over by the people who send them in the wrong direction in the first place. There is nothing I can say to give someone else a bad rep. Other than my own opinion of what I think of them. People can make their own judgments from that. Youve been here a whole 22 posts, so watch what you say. You dont know me. If you dont like my attitude then thats great. I didnt like your answer to his post. :flipa:Hopefully that guy will take my advice and find his info somewhere else, perhaps in the motor swap or whatever forum on this site. At least he didnt end up buying a motor thinking that his swap would be all gravy because, hmm let me put it in your way "people like you" told him it would drop right in. I didnt put you down personally in my previous post. I just wanted to make it clear that what you stated was wrong so the guy wouldnt think that it was true.
Sorry EFsleeper, oh god of civics, what a dick. First of all i will be the first to say that i was wrong without your shitty attitude. Sorry i was thinkin SI instead of DX. People like you give everyone else in these forums bad reps. Just say no thats for the SI, the DX needs..... Easy nough dick!
Well gee, he specified what model his car was. Is it that hard to read CX? People like me? people like me end up helping out the people who get screwed over by the people who send them in the wrong direction in the first place. There is nothing I can say to give someone else a bad rep. Other than my own opinion of what I think of them. People can make their own judgments from that. Youve been here a whole 22 posts, so watch what you say. You dont know me. If you dont like my attitude then thats great. I didnt like your answer to his post. :flipa:Hopefully that guy will take my advice and find his info somewhere else, perhaps in the motor swap or whatever forum on this site. At least he didnt end up buying a motor thinking that his swap would be all gravy because, hmm let me put it in your way "people like you" told him it would drop right in. I didnt put you down personally in my previous post. I just wanted to make it clear that what you stated was wrong so the guy wouldnt think that it was true.
mellowboy
09-09-2002, 11:51 AM
Originally posted by EFsleeper
I hate riding in friends cars and waiting for 5K rpm to come up before we start going anywhere.
Thats not true. I mean i know b16 are torqueless and all but hey it moves even before the v-tec kicks in. Also if i had a gsr motor that will take off better cause it has more torque than b16 and i think the ls motor also.:) Anyways back to the post. I would say if your tight on budget then go with the sohc v-tec or zc. If you can afford b-series motor then by all means go for it!:D
I hate riding in friends cars and waiting for 5K rpm to come up before we start going anywhere.
Thats not true. I mean i know b16 are torqueless and all but hey it moves even before the v-tec kicks in. Also if i had a gsr motor that will take off better cause it has more torque than b16 and i think the ls motor also.:) Anyways back to the post. I would say if your tight on budget then go with the sohc v-tec or zc. If you can afford b-series motor then by all means go for it!:D
amy@af
09-09-2002, 12:14 PM
Originally posted by EFsleeper
People can make their own judgments from that. Youve been here a whole 22 posts, so watch what you say.
man, look whos talking. you only have 125 posts! :rolleyes: give me a break.
now, gunnmen and I have BOTH done the sohc vtec. i think he'll agree...when you use the sohc vtec engine, P28 ECU, and wiring harness...it is pretty much plug n' play. tranny, axels, and motor mounts work. you can even use your DX tranny. but it's really worth it to get the 88-91 Si tranny.
i personally went with the y8 because it came out of a '00 EX with only 12,000. that is new born baby in honda terms. i did not go with the ZC because it is recommended to be rebuilt (they sit too long and seals go bad). the zc is made up of many parts. i didn't feel like having to keep a shopping list of parts number for the ZC so i know which timing belt...which oil filter..and so on is needed.
i think i would ask travis_118 about how hard the ZC swap was. he had never done a swap before and did it himself (with some friends). i'm sure he can tell you do's and don'ts he learned
People can make their own judgments from that. Youve been here a whole 22 posts, so watch what you say.
man, look whos talking. you only have 125 posts! :rolleyes: give me a break.
now, gunnmen and I have BOTH done the sohc vtec. i think he'll agree...when you use the sohc vtec engine, P28 ECU, and wiring harness...it is pretty much plug n' play. tranny, axels, and motor mounts work. you can even use your DX tranny. but it's really worth it to get the 88-91 Si tranny.
i personally went with the y8 because it came out of a '00 EX with only 12,000. that is new born baby in honda terms. i did not go with the ZC because it is recommended to be rebuilt (they sit too long and seals go bad). the zc is made up of many parts. i didn't feel like having to keep a shopping list of parts number for the ZC so i know which timing belt...which oil filter..and so on is needed.
i think i would ask travis_118 about how hard the ZC swap was. he had never done a swap before and did it himself (with some friends). i'm sure he can tell you do's and don'ts he learned
91hondahatchback
09-09-2002, 02:40 PM
hey thanks guys i will take someones advice and find a site which specilizes in swaps
didn't mean to make a big argument Sorry
didn't mean to make a big argument Sorry
QuickSilverEF9
09-09-2002, 03:03 PM
Ami I thought you have had a ZC? Your website says....
"The ZC engine came stock in the Si's in Japan. With 135hp on tap a 4th gen will scoot the 1/4 mile in the 15's with basic mods. This engine is a direct bolt on. You will want to change the ECU to a Integra ECU and the best bet is to have a SI trans. I personally have a ZC in my Civic HB and Im very happy with it. The ZC has a bad rap as being an engine that breaks down but I dont think that is the case at all, with all used engines you take risks. I think the ZC has plenty of power, you may not be able to beat a B16a 4th Gen but you can give most imports a run for the money with this engine."
Drop shop seems to think the SOHC vtec is a better engine and I know he has had both :) ..... B series is great I would love to have one but I am not planning on running anything better than low to high 13s... SOHC VTEC is cheap, realiable, easy to work on, has massive aftermarket support, you can usually find one with mods already, IE header, intake, spark plugs and wires....., and best of all it is a direct swap putting out 125-132hp and 105 torque..
"The ZC engine came stock in the Si's in Japan. With 135hp on tap a 4th gen will scoot the 1/4 mile in the 15's with basic mods. This engine is a direct bolt on. You will want to change the ECU to a Integra ECU and the best bet is to have a SI trans. I personally have a ZC in my Civic HB and Im very happy with it. The ZC has a bad rap as being an engine that breaks down but I dont think that is the case at all, with all used engines you take risks. I think the ZC has plenty of power, you may not be able to beat a B16a 4th Gen but you can give most imports a run for the money with this engine."
Drop shop seems to think the SOHC vtec is a better engine and I know he has had both :) ..... B series is great I would love to have one but I am not planning on running anything better than low to high 13s... SOHC VTEC is cheap, realiable, easy to work on, has massive aftermarket support, you can usually find one with mods already, IE header, intake, spark plugs and wires....., and best of all it is a direct swap putting out 125-132hp and 105 torque..
H4Bangin
09-09-2002, 03:06 PM
http://hybrid2.honda-perf.org/tech/info.html <<<<< all ur swap info :smoker:
sastanley
09-09-2002, 03:28 PM
Originally posted by QuickSilverEF9
Ami I thought you have had a ZC? Your website says....
"The ZC engine came stock in the Si's in Japan. With 135hp on tap a 4th gen will scoot the 1/4 mile in the 15's with basic mods. This engine is a direct bolt on. You will want to change the ECU to a Integra ECU and the best bet is to have a SI trans. I personally have a ZC in my Civic HB and Im very happy with it. The ZC has a bad rap as being an engine that breaks down but I dont think that is the case at all, with all used engines you take risks. I think the ZC has plenty of power, you may not be able to beat a B16a 4th Gen but you can give most imports a run for the money with this engine."
Yo Dude - I think that is what Eric (CWBETB) wrote when he was running the site, before her turned it over to the Honda-holic :D
Drop shop seems to think the SOHC vtec is a better engine and I know he has had both :) ..... B series is great I would love to have one but I am not planning on running anything better than low to high 13s... SOHC VTEC is cheap, realiable, easy to work on, has massive aftermarket support, you can usually find one with mods already, IE header, intake, spark plugs and wires....., and best of all it is a direct swap putting out 125-132hp and 105 torque..
This is what Ami said since I think she is friends with the dropshop guy.
This is a very interesting discussion....I have a ZC, have it 85% rebuilt and plan to use it, HOWEVER, if I were to start this process again, I think I would very seriously consider doing what Ami did, and find a wrecked late 90's Civic and pull the d16y8 out of it.
Ami I thought you have had a ZC? Your website says....
"The ZC engine came stock in the Si's in Japan. With 135hp on tap a 4th gen will scoot the 1/4 mile in the 15's with basic mods. This engine is a direct bolt on. You will want to change the ECU to a Integra ECU and the best bet is to have a SI trans. I personally have a ZC in my Civic HB and Im very happy with it. The ZC has a bad rap as being an engine that breaks down but I dont think that is the case at all, with all used engines you take risks. I think the ZC has plenty of power, you may not be able to beat a B16a 4th Gen but you can give most imports a run for the money with this engine."
Yo Dude - I think that is what Eric (CWBETB) wrote when he was running the site, before her turned it over to the Honda-holic :D
Drop shop seems to think the SOHC vtec is a better engine and I know he has had both :) ..... B series is great I would love to have one but I am not planning on running anything better than low to high 13s... SOHC VTEC is cheap, realiable, easy to work on, has massive aftermarket support, you can usually find one with mods already, IE header, intake, spark plugs and wires....., and best of all it is a direct swap putting out 125-132hp and 105 torque..
This is what Ami said since I think she is friends with the dropshop guy.
This is a very interesting discussion....I have a ZC, have it 85% rebuilt and plan to use it, HOWEVER, if I were to start this process again, I think I would very seriously consider doing what Ami did, and find a wrecked late 90's Civic and pull the d16y8 out of it.
QuickSilverEF9
09-09-2002, 03:34 PM
What problems have you had with the ZC because I am 90% positive I will go with the SOHC VTEC but a small part of me wants the DOHC..
amy@af
09-09-2002, 05:43 PM
the engine info on the site is all the info that was there before me. i am slowly going through and updating all the sections with newer info. i plan to finish the how-to's after the car show this weekend and then get to the engine section.
LOL, i said "now, gunnmen and I have BOTH done the sohc vtec". i had considered the ZC. i actually didn't realize how easy the sohc vtec was to drop in. dropshop told me to quit being a whimp and just do it. and it was pretty easy.
you must have gotten confused when i said travis_118 has a ZC...ask him how easy it was to swap in. :)
LOL, i said "now, gunnmen and I have BOTH done the sohc vtec". i had considered the ZC. i actually didn't realize how easy the sohc vtec was to drop in. dropshop told me to quit being a whimp and just do it. and it was pretty easy.
you must have gotten confused when i said travis_118 has a ZC...ask him how easy it was to swap in. :)
EFsleeper
09-09-2002, 06:54 PM
Originally posted by LadyNRedSi
man, look whos talking. you only have 125 posts! :rolleyes: give me a break.
Yeah, and your point? This guy arrived like 3 days ago. so how does he have a feeling for what goes on in this forum? You make a whole lot more posts than I do AMI, if I posted as much as you do I would have just as many as you if not close. I remember first reading this board and seeing how many posts you had. it wasnt too many. 200 or so if I believe. And I dont like your car so bring your VTEC over, I invite all variable valve crap control, especially those of the SOHC variety.:bonghitte
man, look whos talking. you only have 125 posts! :rolleyes: give me a break.
Yeah, and your point? This guy arrived like 3 days ago. so how does he have a feeling for what goes on in this forum? You make a whole lot more posts than I do AMI, if I posted as much as you do I would have just as many as you if not close. I remember first reading this board and seeing how many posts you had. it wasnt too many. 200 or so if I believe. And I dont like your car so bring your VTEC over, I invite all variable valve crap control, especially those of the SOHC variety.:bonghitte
amy@af
09-09-2002, 10:42 PM
Originally posted by EFsleeper
Yeah, and your point? This guy arrived like 3 days ago. so how does he have a feeling for what goes on in this forum? You make a whole lot more posts than I do AMI, if I posted as much as you do I would have just as many as you if not close. I remember first reading this board and seeing how many posts you had. it wasnt too many. 200 or so if I believe. And I dont like your car so bring your VTEC over, I invite all variable valve crap control, especially those of the SOHC variety
no, the question is, what is your point? trying to step to me like i'm some newbie :rolleyes: get over yourself man. my post number isn't shit. why? because when i switched over i started at [b]0[b]. i didn't have my post numbers switched over from PH or HB like everyone else. if you came around when i only had 200 that means you haven't been here more than 2 minutes more than the person you were trying to play god over.
don't hate on vtec because you have nothing better to contribute to the conversation. come back when you have a REAL ef, son...
people with 1 post or 849673957639575957476 posts has the same right to post up in here with their opinion. you don't like it, then you don't have to post.
and i could care less if you don't like my car.... :bonghitte go ahead and keep your crack to yourself
Yeah, and your point? This guy arrived like 3 days ago. so how does he have a feeling for what goes on in this forum? You make a whole lot more posts than I do AMI, if I posted as much as you do I would have just as many as you if not close. I remember first reading this board and seeing how many posts you had. it wasnt too many. 200 or so if I believe. And I dont like your car so bring your VTEC over, I invite all variable valve crap control, especially those of the SOHC variety
no, the question is, what is your point? trying to step to me like i'm some newbie :rolleyes: get over yourself man. my post number isn't shit. why? because when i switched over i started at [b]0[b]. i didn't have my post numbers switched over from PH or HB like everyone else. if you came around when i only had 200 that means you haven't been here more than 2 minutes more than the person you were trying to play god over.
don't hate on vtec because you have nothing better to contribute to the conversation. come back when you have a REAL ef, son...
people with 1 post or 849673957639575957476 posts has the same right to post up in here with their opinion. you don't like it, then you don't have to post.
and i could care less if you don't like my car.... :bonghitte go ahead and keep your crack to yourself
MyFirst4G
09-09-2002, 10:58 PM
Originally posted by LadyNRedSi
no, the question is, what is your point? trying to step to me like i'm some newbie :rolleyes: get over yourself man. my post number isn't shit. why? because when i switched over i started at [b]0[b]. i didn't have my post numbers switched over from PH or HB like everyone else. if you came around when i only had 200 that means you haven't been here more than 2 minutes more than the person you were trying to play god over.
don't hate on vtec because you have nothing better to contribute to the conversation. come back when you have a REAL ef, son...
people with 1 post or 849673957639575957476 posts has the same right to post up in here with their opinion. you don't like it, then you don't have to post.
and i could care less if you don't like my car.... :bonghitte go ahead and keep your crack to yourself
Damn, You go girl! :licker:
no, the question is, what is your point? trying to step to me like i'm some newbie :rolleyes: get over yourself man. my post number isn't shit. why? because when i switched over i started at [b]0[b]. i didn't have my post numbers switched over from PH or HB like everyone else. if you came around when i only had 200 that means you haven't been here more than 2 minutes more than the person you were trying to play god over.
don't hate on vtec because you have nothing better to contribute to the conversation. come back when you have a REAL ef, son...
people with 1 post or 849673957639575957476 posts has the same right to post up in here with their opinion. you don't like it, then you don't have to post.
and i could care less if you don't like my car.... :bonghitte go ahead and keep your crack to yourself
Damn, You go girl! :licker:
QuickSilverEF9
09-09-2002, 11:21 PM
EFSLEEPER, what do you have up your ass? Is anybody supporting what you have said? No. Why because you are being a prick and none of us appreciate it. You may have issues with your man hood and think you have to be belligerent and ignorant when you disagree with something but that isn't a reason to get your panties in a bunch and insult the rest of us. Who cares how many posts you have? Everyone here has a main interest and that is our 4th gen civics and sister cars 2nd gen CRXs. If you want to keep running your mouth go ahead and do it but do it on your own time and alone so nobody has to listen to it. Almost everyone here is just trying to share information and get together with others that have a common interest. Newbies and their questions are welcome and appreciated. And your comment on the age of the users in this forum just shows how immature you really are. If you are older than those classified in your group of idiots you are just undermining your own comments. On another note don't screw with ami because everyone has her back. The knowledge she posesses combined with the manor in which she presents it is vastly superior to yours so I would bite my tongue if you have any other negativity to spread.
MyFirst4G
09-09-2002, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by QuickSilverEF9
EFSLEEPER, what do you have up your ass? Is anybody supporting what you have said? No. Why because you are being a prick and none of us appreciate it. You may have issues with your man hood and think you have to be belligerent and ignorant when you disagree with something but that isn't a reason to get your panties in a bunch and insult the rest of us. Who cares how many posts you have? Everyone here has a main interest and that is our 4th gen civics and sister cars 2nd gen CRXs. If you want to keep running your mouth go ahead and do it but do it on your own time and alone so nobody has to listen to it. Almost everyone here is just trying to share information and get together with others that have a common interest. Newbies and their questions are welcome and appreciated. And your comment on the age of the users in this forum just shows how immature you really are. If you are older than those classified in your group of idiots you are just undermining your own comments. On another note don't screw with ami because everyone has her back. The knowledge she posesses combined with the manor in which she presents it is vastly superior to yours so I would bite my tongue if you have any other negativity to spread.
Holy Shit, (excuse my language) but damn, i dont think anyone could have laid it out better even if was givin to him on a silver platter. Pretty much, EFsleeper, learn to play nice with the younger kids and dont be a prick and the younger kids wont have to kick your ASS! :flipa: :flipa:
EFSLEEPER, what do you have up your ass? Is anybody supporting what you have said? No. Why because you are being a prick and none of us appreciate it. You may have issues with your man hood and think you have to be belligerent and ignorant when you disagree with something but that isn't a reason to get your panties in a bunch and insult the rest of us. Who cares how many posts you have? Everyone here has a main interest and that is our 4th gen civics and sister cars 2nd gen CRXs. If you want to keep running your mouth go ahead and do it but do it on your own time and alone so nobody has to listen to it. Almost everyone here is just trying to share information and get together with others that have a common interest. Newbies and their questions are welcome and appreciated. And your comment on the age of the users in this forum just shows how immature you really are. If you are older than those classified in your group of idiots you are just undermining your own comments. On another note don't screw with ami because everyone has her back. The knowledge she posesses combined with the manor in which she presents it is vastly superior to yours so I would bite my tongue if you have any other negativity to spread.
Holy Shit, (excuse my language) but damn, i dont think anyone could have laid it out better even if was givin to him on a silver platter. Pretty much, EFsleeper, learn to play nice with the younger kids and dont be a prick and the younger kids wont have to kick your ASS! :flipa: :flipa:
turbcivic
09-10-2002, 06:47 AM
Hell yeah!:finger4:
H4Bangin
09-10-2002, 01:50 PM
more links>>>>>>>
http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/1115/tech.html
http://www.rglobal.net/users/jgray/Engines.htm :jump:
http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/1115/tech.html
http://www.rglobal.net/users/jgray/Engines.htm :jump:
Melt
09-10-2002, 01:58 PM
Originally posted by EFsleeper
Yeah, and your point? This guy arrived like 3 days ago. so how does he have a feeling for what goes on in this forum? You make a whole lot more posts than I do AMI, if I posted as much as you do I would have just as many as you if not close. I remember first reading this board and seeing how many posts you had. it wasnt too many. 200 or so if I believe. And I dont like your car so bring your VTEC over, I invite all variable valve crap control, especially those of the SOHC variety.:bonghitte
I got more posts than most everyone in the 88-91 forum (cept maybe ci5ic and kbslacker) so what now?
Personally I would rather go ZC just because I think DOHC is pretty cool. Right now I have the SOHC ZC in my car which came with it, so its pretty tight. What do you got anyway?
Yeah, and your point? This guy arrived like 3 days ago. so how does he have a feeling for what goes on in this forum? You make a whole lot more posts than I do AMI, if I posted as much as you do I would have just as many as you if not close. I remember first reading this board and seeing how many posts you had. it wasnt too many. 200 or so if I believe. And I dont like your car so bring your VTEC over, I invite all variable valve crap control, especially those of the SOHC variety.:bonghitte
I got more posts than most everyone in the 88-91 forum (cept maybe ci5ic and kbslacker) so what now?
Personally I would rather go ZC just because I think DOHC is pretty cool. Right now I have the SOHC ZC in my car which came with it, so its pretty tight. What do you got anyway?
dfarres
09-10-2002, 02:27 PM
Originally posted by LadyNRedSi
no, the question is, what is your point? trying to step to me like i'm some newbie :rolleyes: get over yourself man. my post number isn't shit. why? because when i switched over i started at [b]0[b]. i didn't have my post numbers switched over from PH or HB like everyone else. if you came around when i only had 200 that means you haven't been here more than 2 minutes more than the person you were trying to play god over.
don't hate on vtec because you have nothing better to contribute to the conversation. come back when you have a REAL ef, son...
people with 1 post or 849673957639575957476 posts has the same right to post up in here with their opinion. you don't like it, then you don't have to post.
and i could care less if you don't like my car.... :bonghitte go ahead and keep your crack to yourself
post numbers dont mean shit anyway, i've been here since the begining of the year & only have 164 posts cause i only post when i have a ? or think i might b able to contribute. EFsleeper, u need 2 chill out! Age don't mean shit either so u better think twice before bashin people or one of us old guys will handle business & let the "little kids" & women watch!!:biggrin2:
no, the question is, what is your point? trying to step to me like i'm some newbie :rolleyes: get over yourself man. my post number isn't shit. why? because when i switched over i started at [b]0[b]. i didn't have my post numbers switched over from PH or HB like everyone else. if you came around when i only had 200 that means you haven't been here more than 2 minutes more than the person you were trying to play god over.
don't hate on vtec because you have nothing better to contribute to the conversation. come back when you have a REAL ef, son...
people with 1 post or 849673957639575957476 posts has the same right to post up in here with their opinion. you don't like it, then you don't have to post.
and i could care less if you don't like my car.... :bonghitte go ahead and keep your crack to yourself
post numbers dont mean shit anyway, i've been here since the begining of the year & only have 164 posts cause i only post when i have a ? or think i might b able to contribute. EFsleeper, u need 2 chill out! Age don't mean shit either so u better think twice before bashin people or one of us old guys will handle business & let the "little kids" & women watch!!:biggrin2:
sastanley
09-10-2002, 03:14 PM
Originally posted by H4Bangin
more links>>>>>>>
http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/1115/tech.html
http://www.rglobal.net/users/jgray/Engines.htm :jump:
Yo H4Bangin - why to stay on topic ;) - You learn pretty quick for a new guy.
As for the rest of you...too bad you all had to bust on EFSleeper. I was thinking I was gonna have a 4th gen buddy nearby, as he is only about 65 miles away...but alas, I cannot control his actions..:bloated:
He did have a smiley after his post, so I think maybe you guys were a little harsh :o :p
more links>>>>>>>
http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/1115/tech.html
http://www.rglobal.net/users/jgray/Engines.htm :jump:
Yo H4Bangin - why to stay on topic ;) - You learn pretty quick for a new guy.
As for the rest of you...too bad you all had to bust on EFSleeper. I was thinking I was gonna have a 4th gen buddy nearby, as he is only about 65 miles away...but alas, I cannot control his actions..:bloated:
He did have a smiley after his post, so I think maybe you guys were a little harsh :o :p
amy@af
09-10-2002, 03:28 PM
since sastanley decided to grab the horse by the reins ;) to try and bring some control.....
sohc vtec swap info:
http://www.geocities.com/bing_bong916/vtec.html
http://www.geocities.com/kurtsi_on/page7.html
http://www.geocities.com/crx288/d16z6swap.html
http://www.angelfire.com/ca/DrOhm/hybrid.html
vtec info:
http://integra.vtec.net/engine/vcontrol.html
turbo d series:
http://www.thedropshop.tv/vafc.htm
sohc vtec swap info:
http://www.geocities.com/bing_bong916/vtec.html
http://www.geocities.com/kurtsi_on/page7.html
http://www.geocities.com/crx288/d16z6swap.html
http://www.angelfire.com/ca/DrOhm/hybrid.html
vtec info:
http://integra.vtec.net/engine/vcontrol.html
turbo d series:
http://www.thedropshop.tv/vafc.htm
Setanta
09-11-2002, 01:23 AM
No such thing as v-tec so the original question is invalid anyway :D
ZC if you want a quick fix, but an older engine, SOHC VTEC for an engine that is current with better parts availability.
Go figure ;)
Real men drive DOHC VTEC anyway :devil:
waiting... waiting.... :p
ZC if you want a quick fix, but an older engine, SOHC VTEC for an engine that is current with better parts availability.
Go figure ;)
Real men drive DOHC VTEC anyway :devil:
waiting... waiting.... :p
liquid8
09-18-2002, 05:41 AM
what kind of time slips could you expect from a sohc vtec swap into a 4th or 5th generation hatch anyways. (in stock form) i was thinking of getting that swap
amy@af
09-18-2002, 01:26 PM
Originally posted by Setanta
waiting... waiting.... :p
that's the sissy way out. real men whoop dohc with sohc :flipa: :p
that's a hard question. it depends on the driver. you can expect anywhere from 15.6-18.0 (i saw one guy run a 19 :eek: doh!)
waiting... waiting.... :p
that's the sissy way out. real men whoop dohc with sohc :flipa: :p
that's a hard question. it depends on the driver. you can expect anywhere from 15.6-18.0 (i saw one guy run a 19 :eek: doh!)
EFsleeper
09-20-2002, 09:12 AM
Originally posted by LadyNRedSi
trying to step to me like i'm some newbie :rolleyes: get over yourself man.
Sorry yo, didnt mean ta step ta ya!
don't hate on vtec because you have nothing better to contribute to the conversation. come back when you have a REAL ef, son...
Aw yo! I wasnt hating! Dont even play me like that playa.
and i could care less if you don't like my car.... :bonghitte go ahead and keep your crack to yourself
ITS A BONG, not a crack pipe.
Come back when I have a real EF huh? well hmm. Let me see, are you any better with that hurt ass integra? I would line my car up against any members in here that is normally aspirated, 1.6L or under, VTEC or not and the results would speak for themselves. My engine is supposed to have more hp than your SOHC, so does that make your EF even more inferior than mine?? Youre a walking contridiction. Is it because you have VTEC? Thats a pretty dumb reason to think that a 4th gen is a real EF just because it has VTEC. I wouldnt classify your car as a real EF anyway ami, since when did "real EFs" come with your motor??? hmmm?
:sun:
But anyways, Im done argueing with you. you win if you feel that we were in competition. And no one "kicked my ass" with the posts. You have to come up with something really clever to make me feel stupid. I was in a bad mood when I first said something prickish. and for that i got this nice flaming. Yay. and hey stanley- gimme a call if you need help throwing in your motor. Im always looking for something to get into.
trying to step to me like i'm some newbie :rolleyes: get over yourself man.
Sorry yo, didnt mean ta step ta ya!
don't hate on vtec because you have nothing better to contribute to the conversation. come back when you have a REAL ef, son...
Aw yo! I wasnt hating! Dont even play me like that playa.
and i could care less if you don't like my car.... :bonghitte go ahead and keep your crack to yourself
ITS A BONG, not a crack pipe.
Come back when I have a real EF huh? well hmm. Let me see, are you any better with that hurt ass integra? I would line my car up against any members in here that is normally aspirated, 1.6L or under, VTEC or not and the results would speak for themselves. My engine is supposed to have more hp than your SOHC, so does that make your EF even more inferior than mine?? Youre a walking contridiction. Is it because you have VTEC? Thats a pretty dumb reason to think that a 4th gen is a real EF just because it has VTEC. I wouldnt classify your car as a real EF anyway ami, since when did "real EFs" come with your motor??? hmmm?
:sun:
But anyways, Im done argueing with you. you win if you feel that we were in competition. And no one "kicked my ass" with the posts. You have to come up with something really clever to make me feel stupid. I was in a bad mood when I first said something prickish. and for that i got this nice flaming. Yay. and hey stanley- gimme a call if you need help throwing in your motor. Im always looking for something to get into.
marked001
09-20-2002, 09:25 AM
...I just knew this post would get outta hand eventually...
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