losing weight
beef_bourito
10-21-2006, 07:16 PM
yeah so i've decided i'm going to be a lightweight rower next season. i'm too short (5'8.5") to be a competitive heaviweight. this means i'm going to have to drop down to 160lbs (a bit higher is ok because you dehydrate yourself and stuff to make weight but not much higher) so i'm probably going to have to cut 15-20 lbs of muscle, not looking forward to that at all. i like being big, i'd love to cut the fat but not the muscle, i'd much rather be around 200lbs.
00accord44
10-22-2006, 02:41 PM
What's your plan? Just not eat? Thats the only way I know to cut muscle, starve them.
beef_bourito
10-22-2006, 02:53 PM
well im going to start by cutting all my fat, then i'll just eat fewer calories than my body burns naturally (probably about 500cal below my bmr) and i'll do lots of cardio. i'll try to do it slowly so if i'm getting angry and hungry i'll eat a bit more but basicly it'll be like cutting fat but worse.
sivic02
10-22-2006, 03:44 PM
So you want to lose muscle mass....hmmm....this is a new one for me.
With your cardio I would try low intensity longer workouts, like 1+ hours. Aside from that just eat very little meat and protein and cut some of the carbs. Vegan rowing.....that could be a sport all in itself. Or you could just lay around until next season, like dont get up at all, dont move. Atrophy is the easiest way to lose muscle mass.
How much do you weigh now? It seems to me that the most healthy option would be to try and bulk up some more and try your hand in the heavier class.
With your cardio I would try low intensity longer workouts, like 1+ hours. Aside from that just eat very little meat and protein and cut some of the carbs. Vegan rowing.....that could be a sport all in itself. Or you could just lay around until next season, like dont get up at all, dont move. Atrophy is the easiest way to lose muscle mass.
How much do you weigh now? It seems to me that the most healthy option would be to try and bulk up some more and try your hand in the heavier class.
beef_bourito
10-22-2006, 04:11 PM
well i'm 195lbs now, i've probably got 15-20lbs of fat. the thing about going into the heavier class is that you really need to be at least 6', even that's a little short for heavyweight. most heavyweights are around 6'2", my coach last year was about 6'5" and 200+lbs. i've got no chance in a higher weight catagory so i'm pretty much stuck as a lightweight, which is fine because i've never been anything but big, and this way it's going to force me to lose every pound of bodyfat, so i'll be leaner than i've ever been.
i'm trying to look on the bright side since i'm really not looking forward to losing muscle, but i like rowing competitively so i'll drop the weight until i'm done competing, then i'll try to bulk up to 190-200lbs and go more for bodybuilding, but i'll keep rowing because i love the sport.
i'm trying to look on the bright side since i'm really not looking forward to losing muscle, but i like rowing competitively so i'll drop the weight until i'm done competing, then i'll try to bulk up to 190-200lbs and go more for bodybuilding, but i'll keep rowing because i love the sport.
2.2 Straight six
10-22-2006, 04:16 PM
go more for bodybuilding.
bleh...
sorry, but bodybuilding is sooo gross. it looks so unnatural and weird.
bleh...
sorry, but bodybuilding is sooo gross. it looks so unnatural and weird.
beef_bourito
10-22-2006, 05:59 PM
bodybuilding does not necessarily mean those huge behemoths that compete. it simply means shaping (or building) your body to look a certain way using muscles. i'd only be huge, not massive. big but not disgusting looking (although i don't find the pros disgusting, i find it quite impressive and actually like some of it)
00accord44
10-22-2006, 06:08 PM
...it's going to force me to lose every pound of bodyfat, so i'll be leaner than i've ever been...
And your endurance should be a lot better. You'll be a rowing monster :evillol:
Either that or you'll starve yourself too much and end up like this
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/paramount_classics/the_machinist/christian_bale/machinist3.jpg
And your endurance should be a lot better. You'll be a rowing monster :evillol:
Either that or you'll starve yourself too much and end up like this
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/paramount_classics/the_machinist/christian_bale/machinist3.jpg
2.2 Straight six
10-22-2006, 06:15 PM
Either that or you'll starve yourself too much and end up like this
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/paramount_classics/the_machinist/christian_bale/machinist3.jpg
i can do that, i'm 5'10" and 137lb.
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/paramount_classics/the_machinist/christian_bale/machinist3.jpg
i can do that, i'm 5'10" and 137lb.
00accord44
10-22-2006, 06:27 PM
:eek: All I ever hear you talk about doing is eating and sleeping. I had you figured as a chunky brittish guy, but you're skinnier than me! (6'5" 180) But I guess with my love of mayo, you'd probably figure I was a chunky guy too.
Fact: Chrises can eat whatever they want and never get fat... we own
Fact: Chrises can eat whatever they want and never get fat... we own
drunken monkey
10-22-2006, 06:38 PM
cutting too much bodyfat is not good for you.
00accord44
10-22-2006, 06:40 PM
cutting too much bodyfat is not good for you.
Good point. You could become one giant cramp.
Good point. You could become one giant cramp.
2.2 Straight six
10-22-2006, 07:06 PM
:eek: All I ever hear you talk about doing is eating and sleeping. I had you figured as a chunky brittish guy, but you're skinnier than me! (6'5" 180) But I guess with my love of mayo, you'd probably figure I was a chunky guy too.
ha ha, no i'm very skinny. haven't you seen the pics? (pic post + significant other thread)
i can actually do better than that pic, maybe i'll take a pic sometime and show you guys what it looks like when you can suck your guts up into your rib cage. when i breathe in hard under my rib cage i'm about 5-6" inches wide side-on.
you'd be hard-pressed to find an ounce of fat on me.
down to good exercise :uhoh:
the other day i carried 13.75 litres of drink about 2 miles steep uphill from the supermarket to home. it gets heavy after a while...
ha ha, no i'm very skinny. haven't you seen the pics? (pic post + significant other thread)
i can actually do better than that pic, maybe i'll take a pic sometime and show you guys what it looks like when you can suck your guts up into your rib cage. when i breathe in hard under my rib cage i'm about 5-6" inches wide side-on.
you'd be hard-pressed to find an ounce of fat on me.
down to good exercise :uhoh:
the other day i carried 13.75 litres of drink about 2 miles steep uphill from the supermarket to home. it gets heavy after a while...
00accord44
10-22-2006, 08:04 PM
...maybe i'll take a pic sometime and show you guys what it looks like when you can suck your guys up into your rib cage...
Its probably best you don't. And you wonder why you're the crew rejectee :disappoin
Its probably best you don't. And you wonder why you're the crew rejectee :disappoin
2.2 Straight six
10-23-2006, 01:17 AM
Its probably best you don't. And you wonder why you're the crew rejectee :disappoin
sorry, spelling mistake. meant to say *guts into ribcage.
stupid qwerty keyboard....
sorry, spelling mistake. meant to say *guts into ribcage.
stupid qwerty keyboard....
00accord44
10-23-2006, 01:18 AM
Don't blame qwerty for your freudian slips
2.2 Straight six
10-23-2006, 01:21 AM
Don't blame qwerty for your freudian slips
we all make mistakes....
just look at your parents...
:eek: ooooooohhh no i didn't!
yeah, i did. i went there....
(i'm just kidding!)
we all make mistakes....
just look at your parents...
:eek: ooooooohhh no i didn't!
yeah, i did. i went there....
(i'm just kidding!)
00accord44
10-23-2006, 01:27 AM
*sits in corner and wipes tears*
:frown:
Okay I'm back.....
excuse me again
*back to corner again*
:frown:
Okay I'm back.....
excuse me again
*back to corner again*
2.2 Straight six
10-23-2006, 01:31 AM
aww...........i didn't mean it that way.....
....ok, i admit i did, but you've almost made me feel bad now....almost...
....ok, i admit i did, but you've almost made me feel bad now....almost...
Nicole8188
10-23-2006, 01:31 AM
That's pretty gross. Don't do it.
2.2 Straight six
10-23-2006, 01:34 AM
That's pretty gross. Don't do it.
i can do better than that pic...
...but we have young kids on AF, and i don't want to confuse 00accord44.
i can do better than that pic...
...but we have young kids on AF, and i don't want to confuse 00accord44.
Nicole8188
10-23-2006, 01:37 AM
Bleh. Don't do it.
00accord44
10-23-2006, 01:49 AM
... and i don't want to confuse 00accord44.
That ship has sailed
That ship has sailed
2.2 Straight six
10-23-2006, 01:55 AM
That ship has sailed
one day, i'll teach you about grown-up and exclusive things, like sex, and the -owned- setup.
i think that's what my gravestone will say...
Chris.
"pioneered the -owned and -owned- setup."
one day, i'll teach you about grown-up and exclusive things, like sex, and the -owned- setup.
i think that's what my gravestone will say...
Chris.
"pioneered the -owned and -owned- setup."
00accord44
10-23-2006, 02:05 AM
one day, i'll teach you about grown-up and exclusive things, like sex, and the -owned- setup.
i think that's what my gravestone will say...
Chris.
"pioneered the -owned and -owned- setup."
And then I'll have t-shirts made that say "Commemoratiowned"
It might be viewed as a bit inappropriate since I assume your life will be ended after our fight to the death. Of course that's predicate on the assumption that Nicole doesn't kill you first.
i think that's what my gravestone will say...
Chris.
"pioneered the -owned and -owned- setup."
And then I'll have t-shirts made that say "Commemoratiowned"
It might be viewed as a bit inappropriate since I assume your life will be ended after our fight to the death. Of course that's predicate on the assumption that Nicole doesn't kill you first.
2.2 Straight six
10-23-2006, 02:07 AM
And then I'll have t-shirts made that say "Commemoratiowned"
:sunglasse very nice.
:sunglasse very nice.
beef_bourito
10-23-2006, 09:16 AM
ok.... wow..... if this subforum was in the least bit moderated i guess this would be closed by now lol..... oh well
anyways i got some good news today, turns out the scale i was weighing myself with was giving me 10lbs too much, the ymca put me at 195 wheras the one at my rowing club put me at 183 (i checked it with two 45lb plates and it was .5lbs over at 90lbs.). so i only need to lose around 20 pounds. that means i'll be able to keep alot more muscle than i thought.
i like being big.....
IN THE PANTS, OOOOOH SHIT!!!!
anyways i got some good news today, turns out the scale i was weighing myself with was giving me 10lbs too much, the ymca put me at 195 wheras the one at my rowing club put me at 183 (i checked it with two 45lb plates and it was .5lbs over at 90lbs.). so i only need to lose around 20 pounds. that means i'll be able to keep alot more muscle than i thought.
i like being big.....
IN THE PANTS, OOOOOH SHIT!!!!
sivic02
10-23-2006, 10:13 PM
Well its good to know that you dont have to let your poor muscles waste away. Have you planned out your exercise and diet to get this excess weight off yet?
Keep us updated on your progress, maybe in another thread such as one that didnt turn into two people having a conversation they should have had over PM
Keep us updated on your progress, maybe in another thread such as one that didnt turn into two people having a conversation they should have had over PM
beef_bourito
10-24-2006, 04:34 AM
well my coach has a whole workout plan set up so it'll be mostly diet. i'll just see the calories i burn in a day and take a few off of that. so i'll make all my own meals to make sure that i don't over or under eat. we've got 3 weight workouts per week with 2 cardio workouts and one day to do whatever you want to stay fit (saturdays you're supposed to do something on your own)
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