Front end swapping thread
Lances133
10-18-2006, 09:35 PM
Anybody positively know if you can swap an 03+ Sunfire front end onto a 95-99 Cavalier? Also, you can swap an 03+ Cavalier front end onto a 95-99 for sure, correct? Or is it true that all 3rd gen body frames are all the same for 95-05 Cavaliers and 95-05 Sunfires? :screwy:
Classicrocjunkie
10-18-2006, 10:26 PM
Anything 95-05 can be swapped front end wise. Whether it be from a cavalier to a sunfire or vice versa.
Doing a cavfire conversion requires a little more swapping around different year cavalier front end. To do a sunfire, your going to need the crush guard as its formed toatally different than a cav. It has a sharp point.
95-99 Cavalier
- 95-99 Cavalier Headlights(with plastic mount, its what bolts down the headlight)
- 95-99 Corner Lights
- 95-99 Front Bumper
- 95-99 Fenders (recommended) or the Corner Brackets from the fenders
- 2 x 9005 High Beam Bulbs
- 2 x 9006 Low Beam Bulbs
- 2 x 194 Bulbs for turn signals
- From the donor car's wiring harness, two 9005 and two 9006 headlights sockets and two 194 corner light sockets(Only needed if you have a 00-02 Cavalier, all the rest have this bulb already wired on your side markers or part of your turn signals)
- Black L shaped bracket for bottom of headlight to slide into...found from Donor Car. Clicky (http://img303.imageshack.us/img303/7928/99lbracket2sd.jpg)
00-02 Cavalier
- 00-02 Cavalier Headlights(with plastic mount, its what bolts down the headlight)
- 00-02 Corner Lights
- 00-02 Front Bumper(or you can modify a 95-99 to work, trimming on the headlight area is what needs to be done)
- 00-02 Fenders(95-99 can be used IF and only you cut off the bracket that holds the 95-99 turn signals on)
- 2 x 9007 High/Low Beam Bulbs
- 2 x 3157 Turn signal Bulbs(any 3rd Gen has these for turn signals so not necessary unless you need new bulbs, you can use what came with your car)
- From the donor car's wiring harness, or two 9007 headlight sockets(unless you have a 95-02 Sunfire, or 03-05 Cavalier, these already use this bulb for headlights)
- Corner Bracket, this holds your 00-02 Corner Lights by one of the prongs on the back of the light, this is not necessary some have said.. but I wouldn't want to risk the corner light falling out, but its ur choice Clicky (http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/9357/headlightbracket0037fk.jpg)
03-05 Cavalier
- 03-05 Cavalier Headlights(with plastic mount, its what bolts down the headlight)
- 03-05 Front Bumper
- 03-05 Fenders(00-02 can be used, IF you remove the corner bracket if you have a 00-02, also 95-99 can be used IF and only you cut off the bracket that holds the 95-99 turn signals on)
- 2 x 9007 High/Low Beam Bulbs
- 2 x 3157 Turn signal Bulbs(any 3rd Gen has these for turn signals so not necessary unless you need new bulbs, you can use what came with your car)
- 2 x 194 Bulbs for turn signals(any 3rd Gen(except 00-02 Cavaliers) have these for turn signals so not necessary unless you need new bulbs, you can use what came with your car)
- From the donor car's wiring harness, or two 9007 headlights sockets(unless you have a 95-02 Sunfire, or 00-02 Cavalier, these already use this bulb for headlights) and two 194 corner light sockets(Only needed if you have a 00-02 Cavalier, all the rest have this bulb already wired on your side markers or part of your turn signals)
95-02 Sunfire
- 95-02 Sunfire Headlights(with plastic mount, its what bolts down the headlight)
- 95-02 Front Bumper
- 95-05 Fenders
- 2 x 9007 High/Low Beam Bulbs
- 2 x 3157 Turn signal Bulbs(any 3rd Gen has these for turn signals so not necessary unless you need new bulbs, you can use what came with your car)
- 2 x 194 Bulbs for turn signals(any 3rd Gen(except 00-02 Cavaliers) have these for turn signals so not necessary unless you need new bulbs, you can use what came with your car)
- From the donor car's wiring harness, or two 9007 headlights sockets(unless you have a 00-05 Cavalier, these already use this bulb for headlights) and two 194 corner light sockets(Only needed if you have a 00-02 Cavalier, all the rest have this bulb already wired on your side markers or part of your turn signals)
03-05 Sunfire
- 03-05 Sunfire Headlights(with plastic mount, its what bolts down the headlight)
- 03-05 Sunfire Turn signals
- 03-05 Front Bumper
- 95-05 Fenders
- 2 x H11 Low Beam Bulbs
- 2 x H9 High Beam Bulbs
- 2 x 3157 Turn signal Bulbs(any 3rd Gen has these for turn signals so not necessary unless you need new bulbs, you can use what came with your car)
- 2 x 194 Bulbs for turn signals(any 3rd Gen(except 00-02 Cavaliers) have these for turn signals so not necessary unless you need new bulbs, you can use what came with your car)
- From the donor car's wiring harness, or two H11 and two H9 headlights sockets and two 194 corner light sockets(Only needed if you have a 00-02 Cavalier, all the rest have this bulb already wired on your side markers or part of your turn signals)
- Corner Light brackets, this is basically a bar that bolts to the bottom/side of the corner, which then bolts to the frame in the front next to where the headlights bolt down Clicky (http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/8674/03sunfirepics0046dx.jpg)
- Bumper Brackets, these brackets bolt from the metal bumper support to the bumper cover (Pic 1, clicky (http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2885/03sunfirebumperremove2resized1.jpg)) (Pic 2, Clicky (http://img430.imageshack.us/img430/6558/03sunfirebumperremove1resized9.jpg))
That should answer everything for ya.
Doing a cavfire conversion requires a little more swapping around different year cavalier front end. To do a sunfire, your going to need the crush guard as its formed toatally different than a cav. It has a sharp point.
95-99 Cavalier
- 95-99 Cavalier Headlights(with plastic mount, its what bolts down the headlight)
- 95-99 Corner Lights
- 95-99 Front Bumper
- 95-99 Fenders (recommended) or the Corner Brackets from the fenders
- 2 x 9005 High Beam Bulbs
- 2 x 9006 Low Beam Bulbs
- 2 x 194 Bulbs for turn signals
- From the donor car's wiring harness, two 9005 and two 9006 headlights sockets and two 194 corner light sockets(Only needed if you have a 00-02 Cavalier, all the rest have this bulb already wired on your side markers or part of your turn signals)
- Black L shaped bracket for bottom of headlight to slide into...found from Donor Car. Clicky (http://img303.imageshack.us/img303/7928/99lbracket2sd.jpg)
00-02 Cavalier
- 00-02 Cavalier Headlights(with plastic mount, its what bolts down the headlight)
- 00-02 Corner Lights
- 00-02 Front Bumper(or you can modify a 95-99 to work, trimming on the headlight area is what needs to be done)
- 00-02 Fenders(95-99 can be used IF and only you cut off the bracket that holds the 95-99 turn signals on)
- 2 x 9007 High/Low Beam Bulbs
- 2 x 3157 Turn signal Bulbs(any 3rd Gen has these for turn signals so not necessary unless you need new bulbs, you can use what came with your car)
- From the donor car's wiring harness, or two 9007 headlight sockets(unless you have a 95-02 Sunfire, or 03-05 Cavalier, these already use this bulb for headlights)
- Corner Bracket, this holds your 00-02 Corner Lights by one of the prongs on the back of the light, this is not necessary some have said.. but I wouldn't want to risk the corner light falling out, but its ur choice Clicky (http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/9357/headlightbracket0037fk.jpg)
03-05 Cavalier
- 03-05 Cavalier Headlights(with plastic mount, its what bolts down the headlight)
- 03-05 Front Bumper
- 03-05 Fenders(00-02 can be used, IF you remove the corner bracket if you have a 00-02, also 95-99 can be used IF and only you cut off the bracket that holds the 95-99 turn signals on)
- 2 x 9007 High/Low Beam Bulbs
- 2 x 3157 Turn signal Bulbs(any 3rd Gen has these for turn signals so not necessary unless you need new bulbs, you can use what came with your car)
- 2 x 194 Bulbs for turn signals(any 3rd Gen(except 00-02 Cavaliers) have these for turn signals so not necessary unless you need new bulbs, you can use what came with your car)
- From the donor car's wiring harness, or two 9007 headlights sockets(unless you have a 95-02 Sunfire, or 00-02 Cavalier, these already use this bulb for headlights) and two 194 corner light sockets(Only needed if you have a 00-02 Cavalier, all the rest have this bulb already wired on your side markers or part of your turn signals)
95-02 Sunfire
- 95-02 Sunfire Headlights(with plastic mount, its what bolts down the headlight)
- 95-02 Front Bumper
- 95-05 Fenders
- 2 x 9007 High/Low Beam Bulbs
- 2 x 3157 Turn signal Bulbs(any 3rd Gen has these for turn signals so not necessary unless you need new bulbs, you can use what came with your car)
- 2 x 194 Bulbs for turn signals(any 3rd Gen(except 00-02 Cavaliers) have these for turn signals so not necessary unless you need new bulbs, you can use what came with your car)
- From the donor car's wiring harness, or two 9007 headlights sockets(unless you have a 00-05 Cavalier, these already use this bulb for headlights) and two 194 corner light sockets(Only needed if you have a 00-02 Cavalier, all the rest have this bulb already wired on your side markers or part of your turn signals)
03-05 Sunfire
- 03-05 Sunfire Headlights(with plastic mount, its what bolts down the headlight)
- 03-05 Sunfire Turn signals
- 03-05 Front Bumper
- 95-05 Fenders
- 2 x H11 Low Beam Bulbs
- 2 x H9 High Beam Bulbs
- 2 x 3157 Turn signal Bulbs(any 3rd Gen has these for turn signals so not necessary unless you need new bulbs, you can use what came with your car)
- 2 x 194 Bulbs for turn signals(any 3rd Gen(except 00-02 Cavaliers) have these for turn signals so not necessary unless you need new bulbs, you can use what came with your car)
- From the donor car's wiring harness, or two H11 and two H9 headlights sockets and two 194 corner light sockets(Only needed if you have a 00-02 Cavalier, all the rest have this bulb already wired on your side markers or part of your turn signals)
- Corner Light brackets, this is basically a bar that bolts to the bottom/side of the corner, which then bolts to the frame in the front next to where the headlights bolt down Clicky (http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/8674/03sunfirepics0046dx.jpg)
- Bumper Brackets, these brackets bolt from the metal bumper support to the bumper cover (Pic 1, clicky (http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2885/03sunfirebumperremove2resized1.jpg)) (Pic 2, Clicky (http://img430.imageshack.us/img430/6558/03sunfirebumperremove1resized9.jpg))
That should answer everything for ya.
Lances133
10-18-2006, 10:40 PM
Thanks, I looked on the sticky on Jbo and saw all that but it didn't say anywhere that everything from either 95-05 cav or fire had the same bolt patterns, that's all I needed to know and didn't wanna ask on there for fear of getting burned at the stake.
Derk_eliso
10-22-2006, 12:57 AM
well, only one way to find out :D
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