K20A Engine

Hello, does anybody know where you can purchase a K20A Motor??? My friend wants to put on into his 96 Civic.... Would they fit in the civic??? I believe they would... The motor is a 2001 + Honda Civic Type R motor, if anybody has any information, please help...

Thanks

save your time and money and get a b18c5 or h22 they are both much better :eek:

i can get you one. email me or IM @ GurlRacer00. the shop i am going to work for is gettin in a few. let me know. later

Becca

so they B18C5 would be a whole lot better? why would it be so much better???

A B18 or H22 would be better because a K20 into a 96 Civic is not a straight bolt in. It needs tons of custom work, and that's if it will even fit. B18's and H22's should bolt in without a problem. You can then savce the money for some more engine upgrade parts.

k20 has been done into a civic already though. do a search, but for that amount of custom work and $$$$$$, you should go with b18c5 or h22 motor. the b18c5 will be pretty close to the k20 in terms of acceleration b/c of the k20's six speed tranny. my friends rsx type s ran only 15.6 on race gas, and i've seen stock itr's at the track doing high 14s-mid 14s.

www.japdomestix.com has them,i bought a b18 engine off them they are good.

Is a K20A an RSX engine???? If so they cost around 8,000 try Jaydm.com or search for K20A at yahoo. Also an H22A is not a direct bolt in you need a mounting kit wires new ecu etc.

K20A1 is the RSX type S, i believe the K20A2 is the Civic Si, someone correct me on that. Interesting swap, definately be unique, but damned expensive.

K20a complete for $7000 shipped - email me! :smoka:

lol the cost 8 at jdmhondaparts.com with 8 g's b18 turbo and intercooled thats what i would do k20 waste of time unless you want to be unique or want an insane show car

I agree

K20A1 -> 220ps (approx 215hp) -> 2001+ JDM ITR
K20A2 -> 200hp -> 2001+ RSX type S
K20A3 -> 160hp -> 2001+ Civic SiR & 2001+ RSX base/premium

Go with a B18C

isnt it 5800 for complete swap on the K20A1 at hmotorsonline.com

still would be cheaper tho for ITR swap, especialy cuz of installation hassle/cost

but about the type S doing 15.6 on race gas, wouldnt it do just as well on supreme, I thought higher octane was just to prevent detonation on high compression or highly boosted engines.

and they are faster than that arent they?

well they are supposed to run 15 flat. but if i it was really hot that could of affected the times

ok, first a stock Type S CAN hit 14's in the 1/4 mile. High 14's, but on average its in the low 15's. Also the K series and B series engines are set up differently. THe tranny and the engine itself are in the exact opposite spots.....(one on the left and the other on the right) Id go with a B or H series no supprises. But in the long run i think the K will prove to be a much MUCH better engine.

Originally posted by moe182
Id go with a B or H series no supprises. But in the long run i think the K will prove to be a much MUCH better engine.


moe182 is right. don't forget, the bigger the displacement, the more of a horsepower potential it should be. the only problem is to get around the newly developed OBD III ecu!

Originally posted by jdmhondaonly



moe182 is right. don't forget, the bigger the displacement, the more of a horsepower potential it should be. the only problem is to get around the newly developed OBD III ecu!

Yea, in the new K-series the ECU, Engine, and Key are all encoded with the same code from the factory and if all three dont match the engine doesnt fire. But i mean its not that big of a deal if you buy the engine you just make sure you get all of em....

B18A1 - USDM 1.8L DOHC non-VTEC- 90-93 Integra RS/LS/GS (90-91: 130hp / 92-93:140hp)

B18B1 - USDM 1.8L DOHC non-VTEC- 94-01 Integra RS/LS/GS (140hp)

B18C - JDM 1.8L DOHC VTEC- 94+ Integra SiR-G (180ps)

B18C1 - USDM 1.8L DOHC VTEC- 94+ Integra GS-R (170hp)

B18C5 - USDM 1.8L DOHC VTEC- 97+ Integra Type R- (195hp)

B18C6/7 - JDM 1.8L DOHC VTEC- 96+ Integra Type R- (200ps)

Shadow-Racers (http://www.shadow-racers.com/hengine)
engine stats

Andrew's (http://www.andrewsimportperformance.com/engines.htm)
stats & prices

Originally posted by Tominos
my friends rsx type s ran only 15.6 on race gas, and i've seen stock itr's at the track doing high 14s-mid 14s.
wtf....i know 3 people with stock rsx s's doing mid 14's. one guy named bobby put the hew toda cams, comptech header , intake and hondata on and the car (with me driving) ran a 13.8 on street tires.

Originally posted by jdmhondaonly

the only problem is to get around the newly developed OBD III ecu!
hondata

in some magazing i dont remember which but there selling mounts already for it and i think hondata has a harness going . they have it in a civic hatch iit hit mid 13 i think with no mods.

any body know how much of a ***** itll be to throw down a k20a1 into a ls body thats left hand drive, im looking real long term so dont want to bore out the engine and throw down turbo, also do you still have to import all mods you would do witht this engine or does someone know a us preferbaly company that has some after market parts already for these engines even though theyre rare. thanx fo the help. also i jest learned the guy who i was suppose to buy it from sold it out from under me so if you have one for sale let me know or know of someone where to get one other than jdm cuz theyre prices are a lil rich for me

i want to do built k series cr-vtec for allmotor in a crx:eek7:

I have stared at enough Hondas at work and i will tell you YOU ARE A DUMB ASS TO SWAP A K SERIS ENGINE INTO A 96 CIVIC! First off usbframe, umm yeah. Second everything has to match up or when you turn the key, opps no start. Third, IMO, Vtec on the new cars suck ass. I believe it is the new SI is only a two rocker arm vtec not three like with a b16. Igntio coils another problem not including the hell of a wiring mess that you are going to have to do it correctly. It isn't worth the time or money to do a K seris swap into a pre k seris car. Now a new si with the JDM RSX-S eninge is a whole another story.

I had to chime in here. This thread is soooo fucking wrong.

The K20A fits into the 7th gen civics with motor mounts form HASPORTS.COM. But hasn't been done into the earlier civics.

The K20A is the type R
The K20A2 is the type S
The K20A3 is the base RSX and Si.

I just got my K20A for $5500 from hmotorsonline.com and it's perfect! http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=89247&perpage=25&pagenumber=1

I ran 14.9 in my stock type S, in hot ass South Louisiana.

IT IS NOT OBDIII, who ever said that is a moron.

It's not the engine that is coded to the key, it's the immobilizer that checks the key and if it doesn't match it woln't fire.

The VTEC on the K-series is so much better than previous VTEC's that it's a joke.

Originally posted by mroby
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The VTEC on the K-series is so much better than previous VTEC's that it's a joke.

Umm...NO. Try again. On the Type-s engine, the vtec is a true three rocker arm vtec. On the new SIs, it is nothihng more then a glorified varable valve timing.

Does anybody know what I would need to make my Type S motor a Type R motor?? Would I have to do a complete engine swap, or just the cams, pistons... etc...???

You would need to swap, cams, pistons, intake manifold, exhaust manifold, final drive and diffirental. There's more diffierences but those are the main ones.
After all the labor and hassle it would be cheeper to swap out the engines then sell your type S motor. Believe me, there's a demand for them.

oh and the chromemoly flywheel, I forgot about that.

haha this is so sad you are fools if u want to waste your money on k20a's wait for a damn k20z3 shit has more torque and itll b more worth it money wise

hey though can someone tell me when vtec hits in a base model rsx?

Are you for real?

Like honestly, are you really that stupid? This thread is over two years old you fucking dumbass. Do you think two years ago the guy should have waited until today so that he can wait until the K20Z3 comes out? The K20A is a great motor, and it still will be a great motor and definately is not a waste of time. I bet you dont even know the differences between the two engines (im not talking about specs, im talking about parts) because they are in fact alot alike.

Also, just to make you feel like a complete idiot, your question about the Base RSX and VTEC shows how little you know about K-series engines. When VTEC hits? Guess what, the K20A3 doesnt have the same "VTEC" system as any other VTEC engine, and it "hits" at 2200rpm.

Let me guess, you own a Base RSX, but you still are stupid enough to bash the K20A

Are you for real?

Like honestly, are you really that stupid? This thread is over two years old you fucking dumbass. Do you think two years ago the guy should have waited until today so that he can wait until the K20Z3 comes out? The K20A is a great motor, and it still will be a great motor and definately is not a waste of time. I bet you dont even know the differences between the two engines (im not talking about specs, im talking about parts) because they are in fact alot alike.

Also, just to make you feel like a complete idiot, your question about the Base RSX and VTEC shows how little you know about K-series engines. When VTEC hits? Guess what, the K20A3 doesnt have the same "VTEC" system as any other VTEC engine, and it "hits" at 2200rpm.

Let me guess, you own a Base RSX, but you still are stupid enough to bash the K20A

hmmm.. i never saw tha date on these i was just reading thru them i meant the k20 was a waste of time because the price it too freakin high better off spending yourTIME and money cuz time=money if you WORK... i dont know the differences only that the pistons maybe rods cams and oil pumps are probably different.. haha make me feel like an idiot? please.. its my turn.. i meant when does it hit tru vtec stage 4 vtec damnit vtec starts at 1500 by the way dipshit and NO i dont own a k20 my friend does and we were wondering why we never heard it.. i MYSELF own b18c5 inna ek9...

ok, you're new to this forums so i'll forgive the posts but i'm going to explain to you how this place works. 1) don't resurect threads that are months or years old, especially if you have nothing useful to add, if it's a few months old, something new has arisen and is pertinent to the thread, sure post it, but if it's 2 years old and it's nothing informational then don't. 2) don't go around bashing people who have been here for a while, if you're nice to others generally they're nice to you, people on here generally want to learn or help others and don't appreciate disrespect. 3) use the search button before starting a new thread, if your question has been answered in the past don't bother starting a new thread, you'll waste peoples time and probably wont get a good answer, for example, turbo v supercharger, it's been discused a million times and now it's old news that people dont like bringing up. 4) checkyour spelling, people cant help you if they don't know what you're saying, a few errors are ok but if it's painful to read, most wont. finally, welcome to the forum, if you follow the forums etiquet you can find great information and answers to many of your questions.

ok, maybe im an idiot but WTF is stage 4 vtec?

i thought the exact same thing as you when i read this, i chose to ignore stuff like that and let other people deal with it.

hmmm.. i never saw tha date on these i was just reading thru them i meant the k20 was a waste of time because the price it too freakin high better off spending yourTIME and money cuz time=money if you WORK... i dont know the differences only that the pistons maybe rods cams and oil pumps are probably different.. haha make me feel like an idiot? please.. its my turn.. i meant when does it hit tru vtec stage 4 vtec damnit vtec starts at 1500 by the way dipshit and NO i dont own a k20 my friend does and we were wondering why we never heard it.. i MYSELF own b18c5 inna ek9...


Please step away from your keyboard. Stage 4 VTEC? What the hell is this F&F? And you are wrong about what rpm the vtec enages at, it is 2200 rpm. Untill then, the engine is pretty much a 3 valve engine untill that point, and if you would like to argue with me, I am a certified honda tech and work on these cars all day. Try me :grinyes:

well vtec in k20s have four stages..

well vtec in k20s have four stages..

What the hell are you talking about? What are the four stages? please explain because you make no sense.

but ofcourse since you asked so damn nicely... hondas k20a engines all have like i said FOUR stages or major cam varietions.. first is the idle/lean burn range second is EGR mode in which swirling back some of the exhaust air back into the combustion chamber, combustion temperature is lowered, and NOx output is reduced... third is optimium low end range torque stage fourth would be optimium mid/hi range torque.. these four variations in i-VTEC we created to balance fuel economy and power.. there u have your answer

Please don't bring up 3 year old threads.

Are you for real?

Like honestly, are you really that stupid?



And just how stupid are you?

There is no reason to call anyone stupid, especialy someone new to the forums.

Do it again and you can say bye bye to AF.