2004 Srt-4 Fs

I am posting this for a buddy.....

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18000 obo. the car has 39456 miles, 19840 miles on motor. all my mods are on my page. i will be selling it with 2 spare srt rims with bfg drag radials, 205-40-17 with about 1/3 their life left. all the spare and stock parts will come with the car! tires on the car currently are goodyear eagle f1 gsd3 215-50-17 with at least 3/4 of their life left. turbo was freshly rebuild about 1k miles ago! let me know....you can call me or pm me 325-669-4268.


http://www.teamhazumi.com/andy.html <<<<Here is his mods list

How'd he bomb the first motor?

phone number??? doesnt help without area code fyi

How'd he bomb the first motor?

SRT4 motors blow easily. Everyday driving is ok. Everyday driving PLUS racing destroys them. I've seen a couple around here who's had problems.

He didn't blow the motor, he put better pistons in. IDK the area code, it's in Abilene TX. I will ask......

325-669-4268 Tada!!

He said in the description on the page you linked to that he blew it up....

SRT4 motors blow easily. Everyday driving is ok. Everyday driving PLUS racing destroys them. I've seen a couple around here who's had problems.
I have to disagree with you there. SRT bottom ends are beefier than a dsm. The crank is good for 1000hp rods 800+ and the pistons will do 500. Oh and They definatly blow dsms out of the water with reliability lol(not like its difficult) From all the research I've done I havent found anything to disprove that

I have to disagree with you there. SRT bottom ends are beefier than a dsm. The crank is good for 1000hp rods 800+ and the pistons will do 500. Oh and They definatly blow dsms out of the water with reliability lol(not like its difficult) From all the research I've done I havent found anything to disprove that
I'm not arguing the facts of your research here but it seems to me that I have seen a lot more people drop the bottom ends out of their srt4's as opposed to dsm's.

He said in the description on the page you linked to that he blew it up....
:icon16: OWNED! I didn't read his page very well, I only skimmed it.... :uhoh: Sorry Andy!

I'm not arguing the facts of your research here but it seems to me that I have seen a lot more people drop the bottom ends out of their srt4's as opposed to dsm's.

Facts are facts, not argueing those neither, but from what I've seen, driving them hard is bad. Maybe because people don't do a full break in when they buy them new. IDK. I've seen 2 blown headgaskets and 2 block problems. They may be rataed for more power, but somethings not right IMO. I wouldn't buy one. They are quick though.

My guess is the people that have problems are the people that have no idea what they are doing. They go bouncing off rev limiter and turn the boost all the way up with no fuel mods which would explain the head gaskets and block issues depending on what exactly happened. I guess my :2cents: is that everything I've ever read says they are one of the best bangs for the buck but I guess I'll find out when I get mine :)

Anyone else wanna put bets down on Scott grenading the bottom end of one?



:lol:

j/k man :wink:

:lol: Put Thor down for $20.

JP Scott.

Would you happen to know if a stock fuel system could support 20psi on the stock turbo? Theres a guy running around my area running 20 lbs on stock fuel stuff, I didnt think that was the greatest idea..

Depends on the year. 03's have smaller injectors than 04s and 05s. Endlessheart666 is running 20 psi and high 12s on the stock fuel system and stock turbo but I think there is where the stage 1 ecu comes into play by adding more fuel than stock. There are people out there that are putting down 400+wtq on the stock turbo though so I think he should be ok. One think that I found quite interesting is that dodge rates the 03 at 215hp and 245ftlbs at the crank and the 04s and o5s at 230hp and 250ftlbs at the crank but I guess when dynoing the intercoolers were heat soaked so those numbers are actually what the car makes at the wheels and they put out close to 280hp at the crank

the factory didnt put lock tight on the flywheel bolts and they backed out so it started spinning rod bearings so i just redid everything, and yes i lock tighted them when i put them it! lolHere is what he said...

:lol: Put Thor down for $20.

JP Scott.

Would you happen to know if a stock fuel system could support 20psi on the stock turbo? Theres a guy running around my area running 20 lbs on stock fuel stuff, I didnt think that was the greatest idea..

No, 20 psi can not be supported by the stock fuel system. He must be pulling timing like crazy which is what the PCM does to keep idiots from blowing their engines. 03's can run about 14psi and 04-05s can run 15-16psi on the stock fuel system.

The bottom end is quite stout. 500whp is pretty common to see on the stock block with an upgraded turbo and proper supporting mods. I don't know where some of you guys are getting your info but it's a little off. The piston/rods are good up to about 600hp max, crank is good for 700hp, none of which will be reliable at those power levels for long.

I would like to know where you got that. There are plenty of people on stage 1 (wich on 03s is pcm and injector upgrade and 04s and 05s just the pcm because they already have the larger injectors) that are running 20psi with a 11:1 afr

No, 20 psi can not be supported by the stock fuel system. He must be pulling timing like crazy which is what the PCM does to keep idiots from blowing their engines. 03's can run about 14psi and 04-05s can run 15-16psi on the stock fuel system.

In an SRT? I rode in his car before it left the lot and it was running 16 stock. I think it was a '03...

ok motor never blew i thought is did but the flywheel bolts backed out and it was knocking so i took the motor out and while it was out i replaced the clutch and flywheel and put new pistons and bearings on everything! he didnt mention the car also has a PTP ported and clipped turbo cappible of 28psi! just put the turbo on about a month ago so it is freshly rebuilt! the car has about 40k on it and the eng was rebuilt at 20k so the motor rebuild has almost 20k! thanks sean for posting this!

AEM Short Ram Intake
Eye Lids
Custom 3 Inch Exhaust
ATR 3 Inch Down Pipe
High Flow 3 Inch Cat
3 Inch Electronic Cutout Valve
MOPAR Stage 2 Turbo No toys

Reflashed ECU
682cc Injectors
3 Bar TIP and MAP Sensors
Mopar stg 2 Coilovers
Kinetic Wastegate
[left]
Aerospeed Floor Bar
DC Sports Front Strut Bar
DC Sports Rear Strut Bar
0% Camber Bolts
Fiber Images Carbon Fiber Trunk
Fiber Images Carbon Fiber Hood
Carbon Fiber Fuel Rail Cover
Spearco Hood Pins
Extrude Honed Intake Manifold
Prothane Race Motor Mounts
Grade 8 Motor Mount Bolts
TC Intercooler
1G DSM Blow Off Valve
Custom Hard IC Pipe
Nitrous Express N-tercooler Kit w/15lb Bottle
Magnacore 8.5 Wires
NGK Iridium Plugs
Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 Tires
2 bfg drs will be included on 2 srt rims
Polished Stock Rims
Wiseco 8.8:1 Compresion Piston
Fidanza Adjustable Cam Gears
Clutchmaster's Stage 4 Clutch
35% Window Tint
180' Thermostat
PTP PORTED AND CLIPPED TURBO WITH LESS THEN 1k MILES CAN FLOW 28psi!


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and as for stock(04,05) injectors, they can only run about 16psi the stg 2 (682cc) can flow more! they are capable of 400whp!

Its kind of weird then because my friends bone stock 04 hits 16psi

thats right! no more then 16. unless you up the fuel pressure or get a return line

^^NP Andy, always happy to help a brotha out. ;)

the pt cruiser turbo has the same engine as the srt-4. the only differance is that the srt-4 has a bigger turbo and a better fuel system. is there any other differance?

yea its not intercooled, and has a different intake mani.

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I fixed your sig for you.
So what you are saying is that if you up fuel pressure that will support more boost?

yes, ptperformance makes a "fpr" that raises the fuel pressure but then the injector is not in its "optimal" press...but it does work!

SRT's down more than DSM's???? HAHAHA are you stupid??? 3 years of SRT's vs how many DSM's??? your on crack man strait up....

SRT's down more than DSM's???? HAHAHA are you stupid??? 3 years of SRT's vs how many DSM's??? your on crack man strait up....
Gotta agree with Flipper on this one!:licka:

I would like to know where you got that. There are plenty of people on stage 1 (wich on 03s is pcm and injector upgrade and 04s and 05s just the pcm because they already have the larger injectors) that are running 20psi with a 11:1 afr

Man you're talking to me like l don't own an SRT-4. It is possible to run that much boost (as shown on the boost gauge), but more than likely the PCM will pull timing and you'll be making less power than stock. It's alot more to it than just AFRs.

I'm not trying to insult your knowledge. I'm just telling you what I know people have done. For example there is a thread on srtforums telling you how to hit the 300+whp mark and that states clearly that the stage 1 injectors will be provide more than enough fuel for the stock turbo, granted that is with the addition of a return line but none the less. Also the guy thats running 20psi on stockers with an 11:1afr is running close to 300whp and 330wtq with a high 12 quarter. Maybe its just me but that seems like it works. Again I'm not trying to argue more like debate :wink:

Man you're talking to me like l don't own an SRT-4. It is possible to run that much boost (as shown on the boost gauge), but more than likely the PCM will pull timing and you'll be making less power than stock. It's alot more to it than just AFRs.

THIS IS TRUE!!!! LOL and no Willie you dont own a 450whp srt! lol:screwy:

This is getting a little off topic guys, if you have a bone to pick with each other take it to PM's.

I'm not trying to insult your knowledge. I'm just telling you what I know people have done. For example there is a thread on srtforums telling you how to hit the 300+whp mark and that states clearly that the stage 1 injectors will be provide more than enough fuel for the stock turbo, granted that is with the addition of a return line but none the less. Also the guy thats running 20psi on stockers with an 11:1afr is running close to 300whp and 330wtq with a high 12 quarter. Maybe its just me but that seems like it works. Again I'm not trying to argue more like debate :wink:

Exactly my point, you're not going to make 300whp let alone be able to run 20psi on the stock fuel system without timing being and even if you have an upgraded fuel system, you'll still need something like a piggyback to "trick" the PCM into thinking you're running less boost than 20psi.

I can almost guarantee that the guy you're refering to is not running 20psi without some sort of fuel/tuning upgrade.

This is getting a little off topic guys, if you have a bone to pick with each other take it to PM's.

I have no bones to pick, just simply trying to educate and share my knowledge, but l'll stop whoring up Andy's thread.

I have no bones to pick, just simply trying to educate and share my knowledge, but l'll stop whoring up Andy's thread.
Yes, please do stop.

If you guys would like to discuss performance issues with the srt4's then take it to the srt4 section of AF. This thread has gone way off track from where it should be.

Next off topic post to see this thread deems it locked and a warning to that member. :nono:

car still for sale!