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Sargento69
10-15-2006, 03:36 PM
I finally got my hands on a b16 head:evillol: (I got the block and head for $250 and block is for sale) I am currently running a b20 off of a obd-0 91 integra ecu. Is it true that i can use the 91 integra dizzy for my b16 head?? if not which on should i use? Because Id rather use the one i have on my b20 due to that i just bought it new like 2 months ago. i am open to any suggestions that u guys might have when it comes to my b20 vtec conversion... thanks for the help!!

hondacivic99sivtec
10-15-2006, 03:52 PM
as far i can can see, no you can't use your b20 dizzy. but if your running obd-0 already, i can help, i got a obd0 dizzy for sale along with a pw0 ecu.
took them off my swap, i went obd1.

Tony
10-15-2006, 06:03 PM
He is asking if he can use his obd-0 Teg Dizzy, not the B20...atleast that is what I think he is meaning. I believe you can, but not positive.

hondacivic99sivtec
10-15-2006, 06:16 PM
i dont think so. the bolt pattern for the distributor should get in the way of the vtec solenoid. i think. it's been a while. unless it's agsr dizzy. or you modify it, without breaking it.

hondacivic99sivtec
10-15-2006, 06:20 PM
it's a non-vtec distributor, the vtec solenoid is in the way and you won't be able to use it unless you do some cutting (not recommended). you will need a b-series obd0 VTEC dizzy if you want to stay obd-0 and go vtec, you will also need a b-series VTEC ecu.
let me know if you need one or the other i have both for sale.

Tony
10-15-2006, 07:48 PM
Alright, thanks for correcting that. i didn't know for sure, haven't dealt with the B series much yet, been obsessed with the D series right now.

hondacivic99sivtec
10-15-2006, 08:52 PM
the (mounting holes?) that hold the dizzy on are different between vtec and non vtec b-series because the solenoid gets in the way.

Sargento69
10-18-2006, 08:09 PM
the (mounting holes?) that hold the dizzy on are different between vtec and non vtec b-series because the solenoid gets in the way.


you are right. because the dizzy that came with b16 i bought was modified. Since i am going to stay obd-0, from what car whould i get the dizzy from? also what are the differences between the ecu (pw0) u have and a pr3 that my friend told me to use??

bambam89lx
10-18-2006, 11:51 PM
you are right. because the dizzy that came with b16 i bought was modified. Since i am going to stay obd-0, from what car whould i get the dizzy from? also what are the differences between the ecu (pw0) u have and a pr3 that my friend told me to use??

For a no-sweat affair, you want the jdm 89-91 B16a distributor. Or, you can just run the 90-91 OBD0 integra distributor and cut off the front mounting tab. The OBD0 B16a and OBD0 B18a distributor are the same exact distributor, minus the mounting tab locations.
I'm using a 90 integra distributor w/ the front leg cut off on my lsvtec in my 88 crx. No leaks. No problems.

Tony
10-18-2006, 11:56 PM
For a no-sweat affair, you want the jdm 89-91 B16a distributor. Or, you can just run the 90-91 OBD0 integra distributor and cut off the front mounting tab. The OBD0 B16a and OBD0 B18a distributor are the same exact distributor, minus the mounting tab locations.
I'm using a 90 integra distributor w/ the front leg cut off on my lsvtec in my 88 crx. No leaks. No problems.
See thats what I was thinking, but didn't know for sure....I'm rustier on this stuff than I thought.

hondacivic99sivtec
10-19-2006, 12:56 AM
well that's why i said you would have to modify it.
plus i'm trying to get rid of my obd-0 dizzy and pw0 ecu

hondacivic99sivtec
10-19-2006, 12:57 AM
a pw0 and pr3 are the same basically. ask bambam for more info though. cause i don't got a clue beyond that.

bambam89lx
10-19-2006, 01:01 AM
a pw0 and pr3 are the same basically. ask bambam for more info though. cause i don't got a clue beyond that.

In stock form, they're basically the same. But, if you ever plan on being able to reprogram your ecu, go with the PR3. There's too many headaches associated with the PW0 that makes it a little more difficult to chip and tune.

hondacivic99sivtec
10-19-2006, 01:04 AM
awww but i need to sell mine.

bambam89lx
10-19-2006, 01:08 AM
awww but i need to sell mine.

Well it's not impossible but a PITA.

hondacivic99sivtec
10-19-2006, 01:44 AM
pita? i ain't good with acronyms. or spelling.

FuLL BLown STD
10-19-2006, 01:50 AM
sumtimes everyday in life is a pita..ya know just like ur mom or pops..ur kids ur boss a pain in the ass lol hrmm i dont think i have any pitas in my life right now.. do you? let me be Dr. Phil for u!!! pm me lol kidding maybe

hondacivic99sivtec
10-19-2006, 05:13 AM
well in that case i got a lot. lets see... wife, car, engine parts i can't seem to give away.(lol you wish i need money) and the navy. that's a big one. i maybe i do need a dr. phil. lol

Sargento69
10-22-2006, 02:11 PM
For a no-sweat affair, you want the jdm 89-91 B16a distributor. Or, you can just run the 90-91 OBD0 integra distributor and cut off the front mounting tab. The OBD0 B16a and OBD0 B18a distributor are the same exact distributor, minus the mounting tab locations.
I'm using a 90 integra distributor w/ the front leg cut off on my lsvtec in my 88 crx. No leaks. No problems.


for now imma modify the dizzy i have. then imma buy a new one for it. I plan on doing the swap myself, just for for the experience. Plus my friend that is a veteran on honda swaps is going to be double checking my work to see that everything is done correctly. Because i can basically do everything, but the wiring. so thats where he is going to help me. like i always say if u guys have any pointers on how to do it or what vtec conversion kit is better please send me a private message. Once a again thanks for everything!!!

Christ
10-22-2006, 03:18 PM
uhhh.. yeah.. the PW0 has that 40 internal rom type processor.. there are 4 ways to modify it for chipping.. and they all involve using a "sister board"

If you don't know anything about computers or electronics, a "sister board" is exactly that.. you have to solder a BIOS type 28 pin socket to a board then wire it to the processor, and I"m not sure with the PW0, but on the PM5, for instance, you have to change the processor to a Intel 8086 (maybe) processor, and get it programmed to run the coding that honda uses.. it's a real PITA... and in my opinion, for the amount of work you'd put into it, it's better off to go to the junkyard with your ECU, and just swap boards and walk out... that's how I got 7 PM6 ECU's that all say PM5 or PM8... I get them from friends all the time, and they aren't easily chippable.. the junkyard calls me when they get an Si or something "good" in the yard, and I go get the ECU, never have to pay for them.. I just say "Nope, didn't have the parts I need this time.." Might buy a headlight or something, as deer run rampant around here, adn they're always needed for my friends :P lol

anyway, yeah, stick with the PR3 if you plan on modding it, or even if you don't, just becuase. lol

hondacivic99sivtec
10-22-2006, 04:44 PM
didn't bam bam say that it was a pita already.

Christ
10-22-2006, 08:56 PM
yep, it's a psychological thing called "reinforcement of opinion"

hondacivic99sivtec
10-22-2006, 09:08 PM
yep makes things sound even truer than true

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