New car maybe?

Well, in order to pick up my neon I have to go to my mom's house in NC, which my dad really does'nt want to do.

So, instead, he was thinking of juy buying a used car. So that got me lookin and I came up with a couple choices.

2004 Pontiac Grand Prix GT - Black, regular V6, 21k miles for 14k. Originally bought and driven in Staten Island ( Can you say suspension problems? lol )

2006 Pontiac Grand Prix Sedan - Weird blue ( looks liek cobalt blue to me ) , same V6, 15k miles for 15k.

The problem I have with this one is that I dont really like the blue, and its the base ( no dual exhaust etc - the black grand prix was the base in 04 too, but it had a more sporty look as a base model ) and the fact that it was a rental in Virginia first. Now at first I would immediately say no way, but the car was not beat up or anything.

That brings me to my third choice.

*ATTENTION, If you AF username starts with M and ends in usashi3000GT, please stop reading now, because I fear being hated, beat up, and tortured.

While perusing the lot looking at those 2 grand prix's i happened to stumble across a GTO, which I figured my dad would like ( Former red 'Cuda Owner way back when - which he bought for 900 dollars and ended up destroying while racing my uncle in a dirt field ) and he absolutely loved it. It was a dark blue ( I dont know, did'nt seem like Musashi's GTO blue, seemed like a really dark/navy blue-but maybe that was because the sun was'nt out and it was cloudy. )

Anyways, it has 11k miles or so and sticker was 24k. Not too bad. Besides my dad likes it alot and definitely approves so who knows. Only problem is that I cant drive a stick, which it was a manual. I would like to learn, and I know how to drive manual in theory, Ive just never done it. Previously my dad said no manuals, but when we were lookin he said he would'nt mind just didnt think it would be smart for a 16 year old who should be more worried about the road. Which I agree with, so Ill probably try to find a used auto.

So, in the end the GTO is kinda pricey, so I probably wont get it unless I wait a year or so ( when the payments for my brothers truck ends since theyre kinda expensive- somewhere around 450 a month plus insurance. ) and drive the neon for a year.

So which would you go for? Grand Prix now, no neon, or GTO later, neon for a year.

Either way, I better start growing a mullet...

As much as I like to say GTO, since you are 16 maybe you can find some kind of middle ground and get a GTP. Its not quite the beast that the GTO is but its really no slouch.

Get a Civic :D

I second the GTP. It's a quick little sedan that shouldn't get you into too much trouble assuming you drive it wisely.

I say stay with the neon for a while, learn how to drive, and look back at the GTO in a year when it is down to $19k.

Yeah but my dad does'nt liek the idea of me driving the neon because of safety and visibility and such.

I think I have a good idea. I recently found some good deals on V6 mustangs. Thyere cheap, ( 12 to 14k with low miles ) not too powerful, yet still fun and they look really nice at least. I cant decide if I truly like the Grand Prix styling.First I hated it, then I liked it, its like a ping pong match.

But yeah now V6 mutangs are sounding good....

Wow, Im so undecisive...:shakehead :rolleyes:

maybe you should spend a month test driving cars and see what you actually like before you you get mentally committed to anything, then.

Since you're young, why don't you look at an older mustang... like a fox body v8. Then you can learn how to drive a stick in a powerful car. And if you thrash it up it's not going to be the end of the world since it's so old. A civic is probably a better idea though...

I think I have a good idea. I recently found some good deals on V6 mustangs. Thyere cheap, ( 12 to 14k with low miles ) not too powerful, yet still fun and they look really nice at least. I cant decide if I truly like the Grand Prix styling.First I hated it, then I liked it, its like a ping pong match.

Dude, for those prices, if your willing to look, you could get a GT 'Stang.

My two pennies? Suck it up and drive the Neon for a year. I dorve a shit ton of them over the summer for work. They have a crap ass interior, no power, and most of the ones I drove had a funny smell, but there were no visability problems or anything like that. Then, after a year, get that GTO.

Get the GTO first. Don't get an automatic, get the 6 speed.
Don't get a V6 Mustang!

I dont think the GTO will still be around in a year. Nothing stays on a car lot that long.

Soo, I say you better get something that you're going to want to keep for a few years.

hey don't bash v6 stangs!!!

but seriously.. your 16.. imagine the insurance... i know for my soon to be brother in law his is 1700 every 6 months on a v6 06 stang.

i would not want to even know the cost on a GTO.

get a foxbody stang, they are ugly ,but also ugly fast and cheap on insurance. You'll definately have fun and learn alot at the same time. plus it's RWD... Cmon...

I say neon now GTO later. You wont find that one but im sure there will be others for even better deals. With that much money to spend though you could get some many cool cars. But if your sticking to new ones I say look at

WRX
VW GTI
Mazda speed3
etc...

hell since it's your first car... go with something old, cheap, and easy to work on. If you want rwd, go with a foxbody stang, if you want fwd go with an older celica or honda civic, if you want awd.... i have no idea lol

Whatever you do, don't get a V6 Mustang.

Whatever you do, don't get a V6 Mustang.

and your reasoning for that would be what?

you don't like them?

Get a Diesel.

so eps... you would rather drive a kia rio with 300,000 miles (i don't even know if that's possible) or a geo metro than a v6 mustang?
if so... that's just sad and unless you own one, you can't say not to buy one.

i think what eps is tryin so say is that its not worth 12-14g to buy a v6 stang. thats like throwing your money away if you would go to a car like 3 years older, grab the v8 same price.

but, heres the thing, your 16. i was 16 like 2 years ago. you dont want that insurrance. get a sedan 4 cyclinder stick. im dead serious. insurrance will be cheaper since its a sedan and they think 4 cyc + sedan = grocery getter for the kid. insurrance will be a lot cheaper. if you really want power grab a v6 sedan. make sure the car is old, as you might slip and sild3e into curbs as your learnin to drive. u might even hit a tree or pole. we just dont want to throwing yourself into a car you cant control when its wet outside, or dry for a matter of fact.

Eh, Its lookin' like the V6 Stang is what Im gonan go with. Found a few deals and now I just gotta go look at em and test drive and such. To clear a few things up / why V6 Stang is the winner....

1) Dad doesnt want me to drive a neon

2) He's paying for the car and insurance and gas

3) He'd rather me get a Stang than a small car.

4) I dont want a V8 just yet, lol, and neither does he. ( Ive only been driving for 2 months or so and Im still getting used to driving )

well as long as its not auto i guess

well as long as its not auto i guess

Lol, they are. The ones I chose anyways. no stick for me.

Lol, they are. The ones I chose anyways. no stick for me.

Man that is going to be so boring to you after only a few months, lol. You'd be better off gettin a manual and learning how to drive it. It will be much more fun to drive.

Now I'd be all about getting an automatic for a pure drag racing car, but not for a daily driver.

^^ :1:

I swear you will look back some day and kick yourself for not listening to us. I promise you, you will...lol Seriously

Yea dude just buy a Honda or some over safe econo car... seriously. It would be better on gas and cheaper on insurance. Why waste your money on the auto V6 stang? I mean you can try to look cool in it but as soon as people see its a V6 you will lose most peoples respect.

Yeah I figured Id get that :lol:

Right now Im just trying to learn to drive, and focus on the road and not shifting. I would get a GT, but my dad will be paying for the gas until july, so thats a no. I would get a manual, but my dad enjoys living. :wink:

My dad thinks the stang is a good midsize car to learn in. RWD will teach me to control a car, theyre pretty safe, etc. And hey, he's paying so Im not going to argue with him.

Ive looked around at other cars, but theres no good deals. Just tryin to get a decent car to learn in and maybe get something else later. Price range is up to 14 thousand or so. If anybody has any suggestions, feel free to throw them in, lol. Besides a Honda. Dont think he would buy a Honda.

And even if I wanted to get a stick, I really cant. Id be in severe pain within 15 minutes. I have JRA aka juevenille rheumatoid arthritis and my fingers, toes and every joint in my body is messed up ( My Immune system attacks my own joints cuz it thinks its a foreign invader - Basically, my immune system is a Dee Dee Dee ) I have to give myself injections every week too ( They hurt like a ***** ! :eek: lol )

Anyways yeah, Id kinda have a hard time shifting and operating a clutch. Looks like its gonna be auto's for life since its incurable and will only get worse :frown:

Well some day Ill have a manual, I dont care whats wrong with me, I WILL have at least 1 manual car in my lifetime....

If you don't boost it and give it a two hundred horsepower shot of nitrous...


I will leave you at the level of Butters.

i actually like your reasoning.. you sound pretty solid for a 16 year old... and i own a v6 stang... what? What!?!

i love the car personally, and I'm not trying to impress anyone (nor do i care personally) You get exactly what you want. don't care about anyone's "respect" "respect yourself".

I'll defend the 3.8l any day of the week. Do i want a gt? Who doesn't? Do i want good gas mileage? 20 city is great by me, 25 hwy is greater! can you get that with a GT? hah!

i actually like your reasoning.. you sound pretty solid for a 16 year old... and i own a v6 stang... what? What!?!

i love the car personally, and I'm not trying to impress anyone (nor do i care personally) You get exactly what you want. don't care about anyone's "respect" "respect yourself".

I'll defend the 3.8l any day of the week. Do i want a gt? Who doesn't? Do i want good gas mileage? 20 city is great by me, 25 hwy is greater! can you get that with a GT? hah!

Yeah, do what he says. No matter what any of us say, get what YOU want, because you're the one that will have to live with it every day.


25 highway you say?? I think thats pretty good gas mileage, but man I can get 21 highway in a 5000 lbs+ 4WD truck with a V-8! So HAH!:grinyes:

i actually like your reasoning.. you sound pretty solid for a 16 year old... and i own a v6 stang... what? What!?!

i love the car personally, and I'm not trying to impress anyone (nor do i care personally) You get exactly what you want. don't care about anyone's "respect" "respect yourself".

I'll defend the 3.8l any day of the week. Do i want a gt? Who doesn't? Do i want good gas mileage? 20 city is great by me, 25 hwy is greater! can you get that with a GT? hah!


I have seen first hand a 2002 GT Mustang get 26mpg highway.

Since you can only get an automatic (now we all know why) check out the Pontiac Grand Prix GT or GTP (supercharged). They are all auto v6s and FWD. The coupe GT or GTP both have dual exhausts and look pretty sweet IMO and the 3800 engine is solid...

Just curious, what does your dad have against buying a Honda? It's kind of like him telling you that you can't date a girl because she's black (or insert other minority group)

just get something cheap to learn on, save your money, and get something you really want next year or so. 14K is a lot of money to piss away on an auto, v6 stang.:2cents:

You could get a VW GTI with the DSG! Thats pretty much one of the best autos you can get.

Also maybe a cobalt SS supercharged (you can get them with auto)

WRX auto

E36 BMW M3 Auto (1995-1999) You can get them for under 15k now

I have seen first hand a 2002 GT Mustang get 26mpg highway. while in neutral going downhill for exactly 26 miles

:grinyes:

:grinyes:

:slap:

Lol, seriously I have.

I have run though a tank (nearly all highway) and tried to save gas and I did get 27 MPG.

2kgt... your driving a stick right?

if your getting those numbs.. i should get 30mpg hwy

Yeah the mustang was a manual.

ah, that explains it... if you were driving an auto, i don't see that happening with those numbers, but i have been wrong before.

Yeah I can't attest to the auto GTs. I have never even driven one.

Get a GTP. Crap man, that Grand Prix GT sounds ridiculously overpriced. I've seen GTP's in my area selling for $10K. I can't imagine paying more for the GT model.

A V6 mustang will just leave you wanting more. A GTP will smoke it, and is most likely more reliable then it as well. Have you driven a GTP yet????? Try it before you make a decision and get the stang.