remove top speed limiter - saturn

does anyone know if there is a way to remove the top speed limiter from a 97 1.9 liter DOHC motor? or does it even have one (maybe 95mph is just all this motor is capable of?)??

find somone who deals with tuning and such with ECUs.

why do you want to remove it?

because 95mph is pathetic top speed for a tuner car in the making. does it even have one?? who can i talk to?

just so you know, if you crash over ~70mph the chance of you living is an extremely small percentage.

signing your own death warrant.

Cars are limited for a reason, the chassis is designed to only withstand a certian amout of speed (i.e. wind resistance & road friction) before becoming unsafe.

so are the tyres.

Yeah, before you remove the rev limiter, make sure the suspension, tires, body panels, transmission, axle shafts, and bushings, and aerodynamics are up to the task of going faster than 95.

My wife's Tercel is capable of 105, but anything over 90 is just plain SCARY.

NONSENSE... if the man wants to remove the speed limiter, let the man remove his speed limiter.
a downloadable program that plugs into the ECU should be able to change all that stuff.
superchips ect...

Agreed, but it would not be responsible of us to march him into a dangerous situation.

Opinions are like... well you know; everybody has one, but if you take a look at hard facts, many of the "tuner" cars out there today are designed as tinfoil econo-commuters at best, and some even fail at that. Its just best that he know his car's roots so he knows what to modify first. Trust me, I'll be the first to modify a car into something that I want and the first to encourage someone else to do the same, but I start with realistic foundations. I wouldn't build a rock-crawler out of a lamborghini, I wouldn't build a top-fuel dragster with front wheel drive, and I wouldn't start with a stamped-steel econobox as a top-speed blaster. In fact, given the (again, my opinion) completely misdirected foolishness of turning any civic, saturn, camry, or any other econobox into a "performance" car, I think I was pretty nice in my reply.

But, if someone wants to make a performance car out of an econobox unibody piece of geometric tin foil and he/she expects it to blast down the interstate at 100 mph with the same stability and safety of a corvette, I will never sit back and give them the answer without a full dose of truthful fact.

GreyGoose, are you simply encouraging the lad out of hopes that he will thin the population (by removing himself....)? he he....The only place it's LEGAL to go 95 or better is on a racetrack. But even then, in a Saturn? It can't be safe. Don't they make those out of milkjugs or something? (hyperbole, but it's nearly true).....

By The Way, if you're going the route I've seen other "tunerz" go, expect to see your top speed drop when adding wings, skirts, scoops, etc. They add aerodynamic drag. And mongo tires add rolling resistance. You might gain a few MPH by removing your side-mirrors and antenna, etc. And as bad as it can sometimes be for handling, a significantly lowered car is sometimes more aerodynamic (if the car has a decent shape to begin with, of course)

It's just another way of looking at it....before you seek more power, consider how well you are using the power you already have. By far, though, the thing that'll absolutely make your car the fastest: Flat Black spray paint.

I wouldn't build a rock-crawler out of a lamborghini
LM002
lol.
neither would i
are you simply encouraging the lad out of hopes that he will thin the population (by removing himself....)? he he....The only place it's LEGAL to go 95 or better is on a racetrack. But even then, in a Saturn? It can't be safe. Don't they make those out of milkjugs or something? (hyperbole, but it's nearly true).....
here we go again with those hyperboles...
my theory is that if you are one of those very special people we lovingly call ricers, and you have aspirations of making your 1.5L front wheel drive tin can of a car go faster than my 8.3L Viper (hyperbole), go ahead... its called natural selection. it can be a good thing.
hey, there are times when i have wished i could go faster than the redline limited 95mph my car offers (not a hyperbole this time), however, after coming to my senses, i realize that i'd probly be dead if i was allowed to go 150.

hell, if you remove the speed limiter, whats it going to do? 101mph?

I've never understood the sudden use of speed limiters on cars. I'm sure it involved a law suit somewhere, no doubt. Someone doing something really dumb.

There's a class action lawsuit against harley davidson motorcycles right now, because many bikers have died due to the bike going out of control at 100+ mph. This is comical from my view, because you couldn't pick a more ill-suited bike to attempt such a thing on. I guess they should be limited to 80mph to save people that actually believe the hype in the commercials that they are buying a svelt high performance motorcycle.

In short, dumb is as dumb does. But dumb peoples relatives can get rich off it I guess.

In short, dumb is as dumb does. But dumb peoples relatives can get rich off it I guess.

Amen! Besides, where would we be without all of those people to keep fine shows like Jerry Springer and Judge Judy alive?

I'v signed my on death warrant many times, few times it almost came true, twice it did.

I'v signed my on death warrant many times, few times it almost came true, twice it did.
so your're like a cat then...
nine lives?
well at least you got seven left.
hey, if you are ever in the norfolk area, i've got a stunt i'd like to try, but want to make sure i wont die first. maybe you could test it out for me.
lol

elaborate on "stunt"..

elaborate on "stunt"..

It begins when you say "hey hold my beer and watch this!"

and finishes with "i think i had one too many beers..."

It begins when you say "hey hold my beer and watch this!"...
and finishes with "i think i had one too many beers..."
ROFL

well, um... yeah.

i was thinking of driving a saturn to 125 MPH, slowing down to 110 for some high speed slaloming, and then accelerating back up to 135 for the grand finale...



...crashing into a 150 year old oak tree...

ROFL

well, um... yeah.

i was thinking of driving a saturn to 125 MPH, slowing down to 110 for some high speed slaloming, and then accelerating back up to 135 for the grand finale...



...crashing into a 150 year old oak tree...

we all know american cars can't do corners, not ever slalom turns, mroe so at 110.

hey... thats not true.
american cars are perfectly capable of turning better than an aircraft carrier.
it'd be a close call if we had to compete with a 747 though...
them things are pretty manoeuvrable.

we can turn left really well if we have a multi million dollar suspension setup and a professional driver
lol

hey... thats not true.
american cars are perfectly capable of turning better than an aircraft carrier.

that 25-mile turning circle is pretty hard to beat...

I thought Caprice's WERE aircraft carriers...?

Keep the apples and oranges seperate :icon16:

I've never understood the sudden use of speed limiters on cars. I'm sure it involved a law suit somewhere, no doubt. Someone doing something really dumb.


It actually more for warranty purposes. liek Curtis said it's a REV limiter. It keeps you from revving it so high you'll blow the engine.

It actually more for warranty purposes. liek Curtis said it's a REV limiter. It keeps you from revving it so high you'll blow the engine.

I don't know of many cars that do 1/2 the redline at 47mph in top gear. Only one I can think of is probably a geo metro

Metro or fan boat? crap... getting threads mixed up again...

Metro or fan boat? crap... getting threads mixed up again...

ok, for you, lets say its a suzuki swift :p

I know why speed limiters showed up. They want all the dorky high school kids racing each other on the highways, all of them limited to the same speed regardless of engine or aero dynamics. "Level playing field", eh? Gets em ready for NASCAR qualifying.