5th gen HP
Phily
09-04-2002, 06:36 PM
Just out of curiosity
out of all the 4th & 5th gen ludes you guys have seen
what is the most horsepower that any of u guys have seen?
for me on a 4th gen lude
it had freaking 275hp and that's without forced induction.
That beast was purely NA
out of all the 4th & 5th gen ludes you guys have seen
what is the most horsepower that any of u guys have seen?
for me on a 4th gen lude
it had freaking 275hp and that's without forced induction.
That beast was purely NA
ihshaikh
09-22-2002, 02:31 PM
do you have a list of mods for the 275hp prelude
Phily
09-22-2002, 10:59 PM
let's see
DC sports headers
Iceman Intake
nology wires
NGK-r sparkplugs
Momo Exhaust
Ignition Coil
Fuel Regulator
port and polish
i think that's it
DC sports headers
Iceman Intake
nology wires
NGK-r sparkplugs
Momo Exhaust
Ignition Coil
Fuel Regulator
port and polish
i think that's it
Phily
09-22-2002, 11:00 PM
oh yeah!!
and a Performance Chip
and a Performance Chip
b16a3sol
09-23-2002, 01:32 AM
that sounds made up. must be a nice chip, if not.
Phily
09-23-2002, 03:28 AM
no its pretty damn real
i've ridden in it
and i have to say its pretty damn fast :bloated:
i've ridden in it
and i have to say its pretty damn fast :bloated:
cybercrx00
09-23-2002, 09:34 AM
There is a 4g (well, 4g body), on a tube frame with a h22 putting close to 750hp
cybercrx00
09-23-2002, 09:37 AM
Originally posted by Phily
for me on a 4th gen lude
it had freaking 275hp and that's without forced induction.
That beast was purely NA
Does it hurt when you lie that much???
What did you do, go through a magazine and add up all the horsepower they claim their part will give you?? A prelude vtec with similar mods, maybe a couple more just dynoed at 128hp at the wheels, given this was at 5800ft, so altitude correction should be about 21%, but you can get the idea that that is no where near 275hp. maybe 175 at sealevel, maybe
BYW, momo make seats, steering wheels and rims, not exhausts, I just noticed that you lying crack whore, I thought maybe you were a little mistaken till I read that.
for me on a 4th gen lude
it had freaking 275hp and that's without forced induction.
That beast was purely NA
Does it hurt when you lie that much???
What did you do, go through a magazine and add up all the horsepower they claim their part will give you?? A prelude vtec with similar mods, maybe a couple more just dynoed at 128hp at the wheels, given this was at 5800ft, so altitude correction should be about 21%, but you can get the idea that that is no where near 275hp. maybe 175 at sealevel, maybe
BYW, momo make seats, steering wheels and rims, not exhausts, I just noticed that you lying crack whore, I thought maybe you were a little mistaken till I read that.
Phily
09-23-2002, 07:48 PM
Hey its your word against mine, but i know what i saw.
and yes there is a momo exhaust dumb shit. I can take a picture of it and post on this forum if you'd like
My friend who had this prelude, happend to work for DC sports
so he did some crazy ass work to it. I actually might have missed a lot of the stuff he did. But he definitely did not have any type of forced induction in it.
After fixing up his 4th gen prelude, he did all the dyno processes
and the figure read 275 break horse power.
And why are you being such a bitch about this?
What...do you think your all bad ass cause you can taunt people on these forums?
and yes there is a momo exhaust dumb shit. I can take a picture of it and post on this forum if you'd like
My friend who had this prelude, happend to work for DC sports
so he did some crazy ass work to it. I actually might have missed a lot of the stuff he did. But he definitely did not have any type of forced induction in it.
After fixing up his 4th gen prelude, he did all the dyno processes
and the figure read 275 break horse power.
And why are you being such a bitch about this?
What...do you think your all bad ass cause you can taunt people on these forums?
cybercrx00
09-23-2002, 10:52 PM
No, you're a damn liar, and everyone should know this, and yes, show me this momo exhaust, please, maybe I wanna buy one
OK, did some checking around, momo does not make an exhaust, pacesetter does, and momo rebadges it, just like polk makes speakers and momo has their name on it. anyways, it is only a rear section, so not much of an exhaust, and should be a peice of shit like everything else made by monza/pacesetter
OK, did some checking around, momo does not make an exhaust, pacesetter does, and momo rebadges it, just like polk makes speakers and momo has their name on it. anyways, it is only a rear section, so not much of an exhaust, and should be a peice of shit like everything else made by monza/pacesetter
wagsaccordsir
09-26-2002, 08:39 AM
Sorry but that is far fetched for those mods, there had to been something else.... Preludes and their H22's came with 190-220 hp depending on which version you got. And thats tht hp the engine produces, thats not what you will get at the wheels.. I'm not doubting he had a fast fricking car, I'm sure he did, but he definately had to have done other things to it besides a few bolt ons. What did it run in the 1/4?
b16a3sol
09-27-2002, 03:50 AM
i knew that sounded made up. must be those dc headers that did it because he used to work there. he knew which to get out of the 4-2-1 versus 4-1 debate. damn insider information...
either that or he was :bonghitte while riding in that car. i suspect this is the case.
either that or he was :bonghitte while riding in that car. i suspect this is the case.
wagsaccordsir
09-27-2002, 05:23 AM
LOL....:ylsuper
Phily
09-29-2002, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by wagsaccordsir
Sorry but that is far fetched for those mods, there had to been something else.... Preludes and their H22's came with 190-220 hp depending on which version you got. And thats tht hp the engine produces, thats not what you will get at the wheels.. I'm not doubting he had a fast fricking car, I'm sure he did, but he definately had to have done other things to it besides a few bolt ons. What did it run in the 1/4?
Yeah... so like i said before he did crazy ass stuff to his engine. Here's some of the stuff i missed:
He also had the type S cams and titanium valve springs to handle the stress of the new cams. He also had a high flow metallic cat for even better air flow. He also had a port matched intake manifold along with a Dan Paramore stage 6 head. All this and the ones i listed previously translated to 240 hp at the wheel and 275 hp at the engine. He had a quarter mile time of 13.45 sec (traction limited). All in all, I was amazed at the fact that he had no type of forced induction. It was just pure motor.
Sorry but that is far fetched for those mods, there had to been something else.... Preludes and their H22's came with 190-220 hp depending on which version you got. And thats tht hp the engine produces, thats not what you will get at the wheels.. I'm not doubting he had a fast fricking car, I'm sure he did, but he definately had to have done other things to it besides a few bolt ons. What did it run in the 1/4?
Yeah... so like i said before he did crazy ass stuff to his engine. Here's some of the stuff i missed:
He also had the type S cams and titanium valve springs to handle the stress of the new cams. He also had a high flow metallic cat for even better air flow. He also had a port matched intake manifold along with a Dan Paramore stage 6 head. All this and the ones i listed previously translated to 240 hp at the wheel and 275 hp at the engine. He had a quarter mile time of 13.45 sec (traction limited). All in all, I was amazed at the fact that he had no type of forced induction. It was just pure motor.
Phily
09-29-2002, 02:38 PM
oh yeah and for his headers
it was a 4 into 2-1/2 into one.
The mid section had two pipes welded together... so one big pipe
:D
it was a 4 into 2-1/2 into one.
The mid section had two pipes welded together... so one big pipe
:D
johnny
09-30-2002, 01:31 AM
stop bashing on phily. i'll make you all call me daddy.
cybercrx00
09-30-2002, 09:14 AM
Originally posted by Phily
Yeah... so like i said before he did crazy ass stuff to his engine. Here's some of the stuff i missed:
He also had the type S cams and titanium valve springs to handle the stress of the new cams. He also had a high flow metallic cat for even better air flow. He also had a port matched intake manifold along with a Dan Paramore stage 6 head. All this and the ones i listed previously translated to 240 hp at the wheel and 275 hp at the engine. He had a quarter mile time of 13.45 sec (traction limited). All in all, I was amazed at the fact that he had no type of forced induction. It was just pure motor.
With similar, possibly more mods to an H22, skunk2 was around 210-215 to the wheels. But this was with a more aggressive cam, and a bigger intake manifold, and I do believe a change in fuel maps, you are still full of shit. With all the mods listed he MIGHT be around 200 to the wheels.
Yeah... so like i said before he did crazy ass stuff to his engine. Here's some of the stuff i missed:
He also had the type S cams and titanium valve springs to handle the stress of the new cams. He also had a high flow metallic cat for even better air flow. He also had a port matched intake manifold along with a Dan Paramore stage 6 head. All this and the ones i listed previously translated to 240 hp at the wheel and 275 hp at the engine. He had a quarter mile time of 13.45 sec (traction limited). All in all, I was amazed at the fact that he had no type of forced induction. It was just pure motor.
With similar, possibly more mods to an H22, skunk2 was around 210-215 to the wheels. But this was with a more aggressive cam, and a bigger intake manifold, and I do believe a change in fuel maps, you are still full of shit. With all the mods listed he MIGHT be around 200 to the wheels.
Phily
09-30-2002, 05:21 PM
Originally posted by cybercrx00
With similar, possibly more mods to an H22, skunk2 was around 210-215 to the wheels. But this was with a more aggressive cam, and a bigger intake manifold, and I do believe a change in fuel maps, you are still full of shit. With all the mods listed he MIGHT be around 200 to the wheels.
I have a dyno chart of the h22 motor that i got off line, and apparently a stock h22 motor makes 159hp at the wheels. Now with all the mods i listed above...your telling me that he only got a 40 hp increase?!!?!!
i think that's ridiculous. I remember reading an old motor trend magazine about a 94 Prelude VTEC, where the owner simply installed a turbo and intercooler and got his car over 250hp at the engine. I think the H22 motor is way more capable of a higher horsepower output then you think cyber. If a 2.0L 4banger can make 240hp (aka S2000), I dont' see why a 2.2L 4 banger (h22) can't make well over 250hp at the engine.
With similar, possibly more mods to an H22, skunk2 was around 210-215 to the wheels. But this was with a more aggressive cam, and a bigger intake manifold, and I do believe a change in fuel maps, you are still full of shit. With all the mods listed he MIGHT be around 200 to the wheels.
I have a dyno chart of the h22 motor that i got off line, and apparently a stock h22 motor makes 159hp at the wheels. Now with all the mods i listed above...your telling me that he only got a 40 hp increase?!!?!!
i think that's ridiculous. I remember reading an old motor trend magazine about a 94 Prelude VTEC, where the owner simply installed a turbo and intercooler and got his car over 250hp at the engine. I think the H22 motor is way more capable of a higher horsepower output then you think cyber. If a 2.0L 4banger can make 240hp (aka S2000), I dont' see why a 2.2L 4 banger (h22) can't make well over 250hp at the engine.
cybercrx00
09-30-2002, 06:26 PM
FI is a different realm than N/A. I've seen a GSR on stock internals pushing over 300 whp, with a nice turbo setup, and he was running a small shot of nitrous on top of it. The point being, to get another 80 or so hp to the wheels from an h22 would take a lot more than some bolt ons and a port job. We're talking custom crank, overbore, serious compression, complete overhaul of the head, bigger valves, new springs, retainers, basically about a $15k engine, maybe more, hell, a complete balance and blue print of the engine will run you close to $3k, include machining costs, you are around $6k in just labor. all this to make the power of a shitty FMAX turbo kit, but that's not the point I'm trying to make. Basically, you have listed no real mods that would make power to the h22. Type-s cams make 220chp, the car is very similar to a type-r, near maxed out, unless you start doing some machining. you can figure on a type-s making 180whp, or somewhere close to that, so even with all this that you mentioned, it's only cammed to 180 or so whp, 200 would be optimistic with mods, considering, the type-s head and intake manifold is already ported, different cams, higher compression, bigger and less restrictive exhaust, and a remapped ECU, basically similar mods that you say your friend has, yet he makes near 60 more hp to the wheels???? I stand by my statement that you are full of shit. If you get bored, called bensen's machining in california, do a search on google, tell them you want to build up an n/a h22 for about 240whp, see what they will tell you.
Phily
10-02-2002, 11:53 PM
Listen cyber ...
I know what I saw. I wouldn't be posting about this car if it wasn't so freaking bad ass. Its too bad you dont' live in California, cause then i can just show you the car up front. Then you can quarrel with my buddy since he's the one that did all the work on his lude. And I did some checking on bensen's machining on google, and it pretty much took me no where. But anways, I think i've listed everything that he did so if you can't take my word for it then too bad...
I know what I saw. I wouldn't be posting about this car if it wasn't so freaking bad ass. Its too bad you dont' live in California, cause then i can just show you the car up front. Then you can quarrel with my buddy since he's the one that did all the work on his lude. And I did some checking on bensen's machining on google, and it pretty much took me no where. But anways, I think i've listed everything that he did so if you can't take my word for it then too bad...
cybercrx00
10-03-2002, 10:13 AM
well if that's the case, I made a intake, can't tell you how though, but it's sweet, it added like 100hp to the wheels, it's my secret though. If you don't believe me, ohh well, I know it does and that's all that matters.
wagsaccordsir
10-03-2002, 08:20 PM
Originally posted by cybercrx00
well if that's the case, I made a intake, can't tell you how though, but it's sweet, it added like 100hp to the wheels, it's my secret though. If you don't believe me, ohh well, I know it does and that's all that matters.
OMG I'm laughing soooo hard!!... Could you help me up off of the floor??
well if that's the case, I made a intake, can't tell you how though, but it's sweet, it added like 100hp to the wheels, it's my secret though. If you don't believe me, ohh well, I know it does and that's all that matters.
OMG I'm laughing soooo hard!!... Could you help me up off of the floor??
Phily
10-03-2002, 11:30 PM
Originally posted by cybercrx00
well if that's the case, I made a intake, can't tell you how though, but it's sweet, it added like 100hp to the wheels, it's my secret though. If you don't believe me, ohh well, I know it does and that's all that matters.
lol your gay cyber...:flipa:
well if that's the case, I made a intake, can't tell you how though, but it's sweet, it added like 100hp to the wheels, it's my secret though. If you don't believe me, ohh well, I know it does and that's all that matters.
lol your gay cyber...:flipa:
cybercrx00
10-07-2002, 06:25 PM
Ohh yeah, I forgot to mention, I have type-sh cams and a sparco exhaust
b16a3sol
10-08-2002, 01:43 AM
cybercrx, that gives you about 350-400 hp total, right? maybe you should get some of the dcsports headers that added about another 75 whp. :D
phily, you are a funny guy.
phily, you are a funny guy.
cybercrx00
10-08-2002, 09:28 AM
but they have to be welded in the middle so they look like 1 pipe
j733
10-09-2002, 02:55 AM
Which is the best turbo kit out there for the 5th gen? Fmax, Drag, Greddy, and RevHard. please explain why it is the best and why the other ones are inferior.
cybercrx00
10-09-2002, 09:49 AM
custom, all the kits use old shitty, not to mention offer no fuel management, and hell, the greddy doesn't even come with an intercooler. Yeah yeah, you're gonna say they come with a adj. fuel pressure regulator, but I'm talking about something with tuneability. I decent custom setup with nicer parts can be peiced together for not a whole lot more, and including real fuel management
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