fwd drifing techniques

What are some good front wheel drive drifting techniques? I like to screw around in my 90 buick century (beater car) to learn a few new things, but I want to get more advanced in drifting

there are no fwd drifting techniques because there is no such thing as FWD drifting.

Also, you can't even use the techniques that people claim are drifting because your buick doesn't have a hand brake.

i was curious and saw a post by a moderator sayin that it is possible, i know that u just cant powerslide though

The only FWD technique there really is, is using the e-brake to initiate the drift then use the gas pedal to control the drift. Any other drifting techniques require a RWD car. Good luck!

you can do 4 wheel drifts in any drivetrain

you can't, however, do drifts that make you look like a D1 star

seeing FWD DRIFT anywhere makes me sick. it almost pisses me off. all it makes me think of is 16 and 17 year olds pulling the ebrake in snow or rain or even dry pavement and calling it drifting. when he says drifting... i cant imagine hes tallking about going to the track and making good lines and transitions. yanking the ebrake to go sideways for a second around a turn isnt drifting imo.

well i am now looking at getting a rwd car and turning my buick into a enduro or street stock racer

sell your car, buy a cheap 240 hatch, pull the e brake and hit a curb.

looking to buy one soon

i used to run a peugeot 106 ralleye and getting the rear end to slip into line was pretty easy.
However, I also agree that it isn't really a drift, more of a slide of the rear end as the front keeps pulling. It is still however, oversteering, just not in the traditional sense.

i used to run a peugeot 106 ralleye and getting the rear end to slip into line was pretty easy.
However, I also agree that it isn't really a drift, more of a slide of the rear end as the front keeps pulling. It is still however, oversteering, just not in the traditional sense.

Used to be pretty easy in my crx when I had the back up a tad higher than the front. I'd just downshift to second break traction and go sliding through a hairpin, yanking the wheel left or right while controlling the gas and brakes. I rarely used the e-brake. But yeah fwd drifting is pretty lame. I just did it for shits and giggles occasionally in the mountains.

never needed to do that (shift down) in the 106.
i'd just go into the turn/corner as fast as i figured i could go and IF the car wasn't going in as tight as i wanted, all i did was back off the gas for a bit and the tail would follow nicely into line.

what is the exact term for drifting, is it power sliding or just sliding, and getting sideways as much as you can with out loosing it?

I have commonly heard it reffered to as a controled loss of traction. But like most things that can be debated.

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"I have commonly heard it reffered to as a controled loss of traction. But like most things that can be debated."
Thats what i have always understood it as, being that, you can drift in a fron wheel drive, iv been down by the river and have gotten my buick at some nice angels around some decent curves, my friend who also drifts thought it was pretty decent compared to him, i have also seen videos of front wheel drives drifting so it is possible, cant power slide but can ebrak, and rear wheel drives also do that to. my conclusion - fwd drifting IS POSSIBLE

Wow... Talk about alot of Elitest.... Couple of ways to get a FWD car to slide the rear end in a turn that dont require the e-brake. 1. Throttle lift 2. Trail Brake Catch is, most FWD cars are Grossly miss tuned and poorly driven. People keep stiffining up the suspensions, when in reality they need to stiffen the rear and soften the nose. One of the best things you can do is straigth out Remove the front anti-roll bar. Seriously, try it... then lift off the throttle or trail brake a little... just be ready to apply the gas once the rear end starts to come around. as far as maintianing a "drift" durring a turn.... well, the only time a FWD car is going to naturally initiate a "drift" is while under decelleration, once power is applied back to the front wheels, the rear end is going to want to settle down. So, in order to maintain that "drift" created by you Trail brakeing or lifting, you now are going to have to artificially reduce the amount of tracktion at the rear end. AKA e-brake.

Wow... Talk about alot of Elitest.... Couple of ways to get a FWD car to slide the rear end in a turn that dont require the e-brake. 1. Throttle lift 2. Trail Brake Catch is, most FWD cars are Grossly miss tuned and poorly driven. People keep stiffining up the suspensions, when in reality they need to stiffen the rear and soften the nose. One of the best things you can do is straigth out Remove the front anti-roll bar. Seriously, try it... then lift off the throttle or trail brake a little... just be ready to apply the gas once the rear end starts to come around. as far as maintianing a "drift" durring a turn.... well, the only time a FWD car is going to naturally initiate a "drift" is while under decelleration, once power is applied back to the front wheels, the rear end is going to want to settle down. So, in order to maintain that "drift" created by you Trail brakeing or lifting, you now are going to have to artificially reduce the amount of tracktion at the rear end. AKA e-brake.
Ok, how do u do the throttle lift and trail brake? Throtle lift do u let off just before the turn? I have about as soft of suspension as i want to go, but i may have bent or broke something in the front end yesterday when i was screwing around, when i turn, i get a wierd clunking/taping noise, I think that it might be the springs, tie rod or maybe a control arm but am not sure. i was just doing 15 - 25 and pulld the ebrake to do a 180, the ground was a little uneven.

Trail brakeing = you feathering off the brakes as you start to turn in. The idea is for you to shift as much weight to the nose as possible giving the front as much grip as possible while reducing the grip at the rear end = oversteer. Throttle Lift = your in a given turn such as a sweeper and you simply come off the throttle = you start to "engine brake" the nose, which shifts weight to the front and off the rear = More grip up front, less grip out back = oversteer. Note that both of these "techniques" require you to be driving the car At or near its limits, so have Very limited use on the street. Also, its best to have the car setup right too. So, Soften the front dampers and stiffen the rear dampers. Reduce the effectiveness of your front anti-roll bar and/or increase the effectiveness of your rear bar. you also may need to tweak your spring rates.

Well my shocks and struts are almost shot so they are eally sot, and i have no roll bars or anything. Throttle lift, your bassicly at high rpms, sliding your tail end around the corner, ok

Well my shocks and struts are almost shot so they are eally sot, and i have no roll bars or anything. Throttle lift, your bassicly at high rpms, sliding your tail end around the corner, ok Get new Adjustible dampers!! Dampers are paramount to your cars handling and over all performance.

Get new Adjustible dampers!! Dampers are paramount to your cars handling and over all performance.

he has a 1990 buick... why would he get adjustable dampers... if he could even get them for a 1990 buick

Whats wrong with a buick? It can beat some cars, my last two were a 79 buick with a 350 and a 91 berreta, i could customize some if I really wanted but really don't, but i have some bad news, i destroyed another fricken cv joint, i have replaced 4 halfshafts in this car in the last 9 months, it sucks, 2 were because of wear though. so my car is sitting a 1/4 a mile from a friends house in a field about 7 miles away from mine, i may be getting a 93 civic this weekend
s13driftfiend did u get my pm a while back?

what does Elitest mean?

he has a 1990 buick... why would he get adjustable dampers... if he could even get them for a 1990 buick
Adjustible dampers allow you to tweak the cars oversteer/understeer balance... rather then ride quality which is what most people us them for. Not that it matters most cars are grossly mis-tuned when it comes to suspensions. as for where to get them for a buick? Koni, where else? If they dont allready have an application for his car, they can fabricate parts. what does Elitest mean? I spelled it wrong, it should be Elitist.
Elitist -n
1. practice of or belief in rule by an elite.
2. consciousness of or pride in belonging to a select or favored group.

elitism (what was happening here)
1. The belief that certain persons or members of certain classes or groups deserve favored treatment by virtue of their perceived superiority, as in intellect, social status, or financial resources.
2. a. The sense of entitlement enjoyed by such a group or class.
b. Control, rule, or domination by such a group or class.

thats why it didn't come up on dictionary.com.

getting my halfshaft fixxed tomorow but still might look at this 93 honda civic

Oh, One more thing that can be used to cause a controled loss of traction on the rear end of a FWD car... Left foot brakeing. Theroy goes that you stay on the gas and apply brake. The power from the engine can easliy overpower the front brakes negateing any brakeing up front, but the rear end not having power applied to it is forced to slide (Very simmilar to pulling the Ebrake but much more controled.)


HOWEVER, I would only recomend learing this technique after you've improved your brakes heat capacty... High temp pads + fluid.

I ussualy do something simmilar to that, i got my halfshaft fixed, but havent had a chance to do anything with the other tecniques
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Watch this::)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m63FlqNFjDA