Life. 201
scottsee
09-29-2006, 03:58 AM
It's a funny place to be. Between what you have and what you stand to loose. Today was almost the boiling point in my life where I could feel not only my life slipping but everything I have been working forward to accomplish..
I'm fortunate to have a loving family that stands behind my decisions for our future. Like any good man would I contain most of my issues to perserve the way of life for those I love. Seldom mixing work/home, past/present, dreams/reality. But today I believe I've come to a point I'm my life where my structure has broken down in a wave caous, build up from years of frustration, disappointment, and subjective criticism at work..
I've been selling Hyundai's 4 years almost to the dot. I'm tired of the emotional game, I'm tired of the consistent ass chewings from stressed out Management when a deal goes sideways do to things out of my control. I'm tired of repetitive bullshit that clouds my thoughts & prevents me from being me. I've about lost all sense of myself... I've forgotten what I do, and who I do it for...
I left early today.. Instead of going LITERALLY postal on my owner of my dealership I decided to do the old "Fuck you, suck my nuts, I'm take the rest of the day off" and find an 3in GM MAF at the local yard. I spent 20 minuets in a "fuck you" match with my boss over a dip-shit that wasn't my customer that I was asked to close. Getting my ass handed to me over shit that I should had done better.. Always better done behind a desk, with a snotty ass smirk, who's sole purpose in the dealership is to horras the moral of the sales force with negative criticism any time the chance arises, and just might be the possible sariget butt angle to satin himself who would be lucky if one person came to his funeral. Known through the city as an absolute prick who cares nothing of others and only of himself continues on harassing me about my abilities as a salesman, my production & insists my personality and attitude sucks. I didn't feel like taking it today. I flat out told the dip shit I'm completely and utterly emotionally drained from his illicit badgering, if you dint want me fire me! After saying the 3-5 times he realized I had lost all fear (without fear their is no control) it went ever further down hill. It's one thing to try reasoning with somone. But it's another trying to reason with a bully, tyrant, individual who will never admit to being wrong, who has never had to answer to anyone in his life and wont start now.
Good news is I found the gm MAF today. Bad news is its 2am and I cant decide if I'm going to work the rest of the month and find a job 1st thing October and continue this bull shit until I stab the fucker in the eye with my pen, or suck it up.
/vent
I'm fortunate to have a loving family that stands behind my decisions for our future. Like any good man would I contain most of my issues to perserve the way of life for those I love. Seldom mixing work/home, past/present, dreams/reality. But today I believe I've come to a point I'm my life where my structure has broken down in a wave caous, build up from years of frustration, disappointment, and subjective criticism at work..
I've been selling Hyundai's 4 years almost to the dot. I'm tired of the emotional game, I'm tired of the consistent ass chewings from stressed out Management when a deal goes sideways do to things out of my control. I'm tired of repetitive bullshit that clouds my thoughts & prevents me from being me. I've about lost all sense of myself... I've forgotten what I do, and who I do it for...
I left early today.. Instead of going LITERALLY postal on my owner of my dealership I decided to do the old "Fuck you, suck my nuts, I'm take the rest of the day off" and find an 3in GM MAF at the local yard. I spent 20 minuets in a "fuck you" match with my boss over a dip-shit that wasn't my customer that I was asked to close. Getting my ass handed to me over shit that I should had done better.. Always better done behind a desk, with a snotty ass smirk, who's sole purpose in the dealership is to horras the moral of the sales force with negative criticism any time the chance arises, and just might be the possible sariget butt angle to satin himself who would be lucky if one person came to his funeral. Known through the city as an absolute prick who cares nothing of others and only of himself continues on harassing me about my abilities as a salesman, my production & insists my personality and attitude sucks. I didn't feel like taking it today. I flat out told the dip shit I'm completely and utterly emotionally drained from his illicit badgering, if you dint want me fire me! After saying the 3-5 times he realized I had lost all fear (without fear their is no control) it went ever further down hill. It's one thing to try reasoning with somone. But it's another trying to reason with a bully, tyrant, individual who will never admit to being wrong, who has never had to answer to anyone in his life and wont start now.
Good news is I found the gm MAF today. Bad news is its 2am and I cant decide if I'm going to work the rest of the month and find a job 1st thing October and continue this bull shit until I stab the fucker in the eye with my pen, or suck it up.
/vent
Thor06
09-29-2006, 06:47 AM
Holy shit man. Sounds like quite the day. 4 years is quite a long time of selling cars and someone with your experience could probably find another salesperson spot somewhere else. I would talk to other local dealerships and see if you cant get something worked out with one of them. I dont know what I would do, I would maybe start looking for another decent paying job and get the two weeks ready. I wouldnt quit until you have another job, getting a job never seems to go right when you are in a squeeze. Anyway, I hope shit gets better for you man, sorry to hear all that.
l_eclipse_l
09-29-2006, 02:00 PM
My dad sold cars for a good 6-8 months, in that time he was at 3 different dealerships. He got sick of it like you, and the constant "Why the fuck didn't you make that sale" attitude all dealerships have. He quit and is now making $23/hour working for the state taking down old military buildings in the area.
The best part is, I got a deal on my car while he was at the Chrysler dealership. I paid $300 over what they paid at an auction. :)
Sorry to hear your going through the same thing. It's not going to get better by going and selling cars for someone else. You will eventually get the same shit. My advice would be to find a different profession. Good luck man.
The best part is, I got a deal on my car while he was at the Chrysler dealership. I paid $300 over what they paid at an auction. :)
Sorry to hear your going through the same thing. It's not going to get better by going and selling cars for someone else. You will eventually get the same shit. My advice would be to find a different profession. Good luck man.
defiancy
09-29-2006, 04:03 PM
Get a job with a different dealership, or find a different job all together?
NateS
09-29-2006, 04:10 PM
Sounds like your job is your biggest problem right now. Like the others said you have 4 years under your belt I'm sure it would not be that hard finding another place to go to. Or what about a different part of the business. The guys of my girlfriends family work with a used car dealship. They are the guys that find cars for the dealship to sell. They basically go to auctions and buy cars for the dealership that they think are good deals. I would say either find a new job, find a new boss, or find a new posistion work in. Remember stabbing a person in the eye with a pen never solved any problems.
Blackcrow64
09-29-2006, 04:15 PM
My last job was the same way. The boss was always on a power trip and apparently it made her feel good to yell at you in front of a crowd of people.
Ya know what I've learned. Jobs are a dime a dozen and we always take the stress home to the family to deal with. Its not fair to them because they don't know what we go through in the day and they end up feeling as though its their fault that we're mad. If I were you I would get a new job lined up ASAP and get out of that place for their sake...
Nobody deserves to be treated like that. You can go somewhere else were they respect their employees because if you really think about it, a company is nothing without its employees and more places need to realize that.
:2cents:
Ya know what I've learned. Jobs are a dime a dozen and we always take the stress home to the family to deal with. Its not fair to them because they don't know what we go through in the day and they end up feeling as though its their fault that we're mad. If I were you I would get a new job lined up ASAP and get out of that place for their sake...
Nobody deserves to be treated like that. You can go somewhere else were they respect their employees because if you really think about it, a company is nothing without its employees and more places need to realize that.
:2cents:
scottsee
09-29-2006, 11:43 PM
I'm thinking about moving over the the Parts Department. 7:30-5 M-F. I would take a huge pay cut. $5000 a month to $2500 a month..
Blackcrow64
09-30-2006, 12:38 AM
I'm thinking about moving over the the Parts Department. 7:30-5 M-F. I would take a huge pay cut. $5000 a month to $2500 a month..
I would say as long as you can still support the family safely on that then it would be a good route to consider. Less stress equals a longer happier life.
I would say as long as you can still support the family safely on that then it would be a good route to consider. Less stress equals a longer happier life.
Thor06
09-30-2006, 11:40 AM
Shit man, thats rugged as hell. Thats a lot of hours to work for not a lot of money. I just got an idea. Kiss a little ass. Seriously, I bet if you got on good terms with the manager thats hassling you, they will lay off the ass chewing sessions. Heres what I would do. I would go in early one day and ask him if you can talk to him alone. Take him or her into their office and position the ass in front of the face and start going. I would just say how sorry you are, even say that you were way out of line. Just try to be really sincere. I would try to burry the bone by asking him to go out and have some drinks with you or ask him to come watch a football/baseball/whatever game with you. I think if you could connect with them on a personal level, they wouldn't lace into you. Whatever your decision, good luck man.
scottsee
09-30-2006, 10:21 PM
LOL. It's impossable to sum up 4 years of micromangment. The owner of the dealership knows I hate him, matter of fact he does stay off my ass 90% of the time and picks on the newer guys because he knows he can. I can't fucking stand him and he reuins my modivation and morial while at work. I've had to sit and listen to his antics over and over.. It's the same o'll shit.. I've been force fed his way of doing things so long their is no "What the Fuck were you thinking", I do everything exactly the way I've been trained to do it over and over and over. Its when he realises I've done all of the steps and still don't provide results the results when he becomes a little fucking 3rd grader. He's told me flat out he advoids talking to me becasue he can't stand my personality and thats fine, I've told him I can't fucking stand him either. It's never a problem when we are selling cars, it's when #'s arn't up when I'm told I could fuck up a wet dream.. Oh well. Fuck it. At least I come and go as I please, take whenever the fuck I want off..
Moral of the story. Don't sell cars.. Not worth the stess..
Moral of the story. Don't sell cars.. Not worth the stess..
eclipsed at 3am
09-30-2006, 11:24 PM
ive worked at dealerships since i was 15 starting as a porter at a dodge dealer. then i started doing oil changes and eventually got some certifications and i was an actual technician. im 21 now, and the whole 5 years i did it, it was full of the same nonsense and bullshit. i know it wasnt a saleman position, but it still had the quirks. horrible cutthroat politics in dealerships. once you work on a car, its on your ass for the next 12 months 12,000 miles if something goes south on that vehicle. so you try your best to make sure everything is done right, all the while some douchebag in an upper position is riding your ass about some crap that you didnt do to their liking, and its a horrible way to concentrate. i was making $18 an hour flatrate, which sometimes isnt very much in a week if its slow, and then you got service advisors making 25%-30% on everything they sell. so its easy for them to sit there and yell about things while you are sweating your butt off for a lousy $250-$300 paycheck(sometimes).
My advice to you is get out of that world. I think im a bit younger than you, so I KINDA have more options going in the way of what i want to do in a career, but find something else, ANYTHING else. Right now im in what i like to call a "transitional job" where I'm just here to find something better. I still have a car payment and insurance and some other bills, but i want to try and get them out of the way and then maybe go to school for graphics or web design, and work part time. whatever you do man, good luck.
ps: congrats on your gm maf, now you just need a translator!
My advice to you is get out of that world. I think im a bit younger than you, so I KINDA have more options going in the way of what i want to do in a career, but find something else, ANYTHING else. Right now im in what i like to call a "transitional job" where I'm just here to find something better. I still have a car payment and insurance and some other bills, but i want to try and get them out of the way and then maybe go to school for graphics or web design, and work part time. whatever you do man, good luck.
ps: congrats on your gm maf, now you just need a translator!
Blackcrow64
10-01-2006, 02:10 AM
I still have a car payment and insurance and some other bills, but i want to try and get them out of the way and then maybe go to school for graphics or web design, and work part time.
Good luck with that shit. I have a degree in multimedia to do all that shit and animation too and I'm a freakin janitor. :( Its definetly not an easy area to get a job in. The number look good when your looking at it from the outside like I once did, but the hardest part is getting inside and actually getting a job to do it.
Good luck with that shit. I have a degree in multimedia to do all that shit and animation too and I'm a freakin janitor. :( Its definetly not an easy area to get a job in. The number look good when your looking at it from the outside like I once did, but the hardest part is getting inside and actually getting a job to do it.
GTPSPEED
10-01-2006, 06:40 AM
well i will tell ya i am 28,i have worked at my shit job for 8 years at a friggin dry cleaners they pay me well i guess but i go through the same type shit where i dont know what i want to do anymore.I dont wanna work at this place for the rest of my life,so at 28 i decided i will go back to school.So monday i will meet with the lady at admitions to a computer tech school and get my 2 year degree in computer networking.sometimes at a job you hit a glass floor and cant go any higher,you can see everyone else with sweet jobs and making great money but your stuck.So i am making a move and going back to school,they do job placement and i can finaly end this run around check to check life,here in boston its very expensive to live a apartment here is no lower than 1,100 a month for a one bedroom place and to survive here you need a good paying job and one you can see a futer in.but the hardest part is making the move.Job security is the best feeling so sometimes people are scared to break the cycle so to say,but hang in there buddy.As bad as it seems for you,look around there are people who have it much worse so be strong and dont get shit on man,you do have options.~ joe
Blackcrow64
10-01-2006, 09:17 AM
well i will tell ya i am 28,i have worked at my shit job for 8 years at a friggin dry cleaners they pay me well i guess but i go through the same type shit where i dont know what i want to do anymore.I dont wanna work at this place for the rest of my life,so at 28 i decided i will go back to school.So monday i will meet with the lady at admitions to a computer tech school and get my 2 year degree in computer networking.sometimes at a job you hit a glass floor and cant go any higher,you can see everyone else with sweet jobs and making great money but your stuck.So i am making a move and going back to school,they do job placement and i can finaly end this run around check to check life,here in boston its very expensive to live a apartment here is no lower than 1,100 a month for a one bedroom place and to survive here you need a good paying job and one you can see a futer in.but the hardest part is making the move.Job security is the best feeling so sometimes people are scared to break the cycle so to say,but hang in there buddy.As bad as it seems for you,look around there are people who have it much worse so be strong and dont get shit on man,you do have options.~ joe
Holy crap thats a lot of money for an apartment. Its great that you are going back to school but be a little leery of tech schools and their "job placement" that they claim to help with. Mine said the same crap and they have been the absolute worst and laziest people I've ever met. It would be nice to have their jobs. All they do is sit around jerkin each other off and once a month they decide to send out a universal job list to every student that they throw together in like a day. It really pisses me off how they aren't actually trying to help any of us out at all. But computer networking, thats a great field to get into right now. Theres a very high demand for networkers almost anywhere you go. It should be fairly easier to get a job in that field.
Holy crap thats a lot of money for an apartment. Its great that you are going back to school but be a little leery of tech schools and their "job placement" that they claim to help with. Mine said the same crap and they have been the absolute worst and laziest people I've ever met. It would be nice to have their jobs. All they do is sit around jerkin each other off and once a month they decide to send out a universal job list to every student that they throw together in like a day. It really pisses me off how they aren't actually trying to help any of us out at all. But computer networking, thats a great field to get into right now. Theres a very high demand for networkers almost anywhere you go. It should be fairly easier to get a job in that field.
scottsee
10-01-2006, 11:54 AM
I'm only 26. I've been selling cars for 5 years. 4 of them beeing hyundai. I've got 4 years of college under my belt with a computer science degree. I just don't want to work on computers for a living. I'm thinking about finding a sales job in hightech feild.
eclipsed at 3am
10-01-2006, 01:24 PM
try to pursue a job that you would be happy with, but also remember that anything could happen. theres a demand for computer-related jobs just about everywhere, so it wouldnt hurt to take a couple computer classes, maybe like $150-$300 a credit, just so you can have something to fall back on. and probably not even computers, just something that there is a need for, just to cover your ass in case what you want to do doesnt work out.
Thor06
10-01-2006, 01:44 PM
If the world weren't gay you could wrench. Anymore you need to be ASE certified to fuckin change an air filter. I dont know man, I know a lot of car guys that do all the work on their cars and know their shit inside and out and fuck up a lot less than these ASE certified chuckleheads. My moms tranny went out in her rendezvous. They got a rebuild and dropped the shit back in there and it wouldnt go anywhere when the put it in gear. You know what they told her the problem was? The driveshaft was messed up :rolleyes:. Its an AWD vehicle, it would move if the driveshaft driveshaft or not the front wheels would move. ASE certification is a joke.
eclipsed at 3am
10-01-2006, 01:47 PM
hmm...chuckleheads. lol
scottsee
10-01-2006, 09:35 PM
I shouldn't need computer classes if I have a computer science degree all ready :)
l_eclipse_l
10-01-2006, 09:56 PM
I shouldn't need computer classes if I have a computer science degree all ready :)
What was your focus of the degree? Programming?
What was your focus of the degree? Programming?
scottsee
10-01-2006, 11:44 PM
FUCK NO. Hardware/networking. Software sucks, I hate it... I took C++, visual basic, java, html all so I could work on web servers but thats all...
eclipsed at 3am
10-02-2006, 11:12 AM
well i dunno what to tell you then. get a different job.
Thor06
10-02-2006, 12:26 PM
You could always sling rock and sell yourself for money ;).
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