Engine cuts out at idle in drive.......
gmbwrenchn
09-27-2006, 04:39 PM
90' 6000 SE 122K MILES. Just recently when I'm at a stop light, in drive, the engine will cut out most of the time. The idle sounds kinda low. when I go to start it back up, it starts up right away. The car runs great otherwise. This will happen if it is wet or dry outside. Air filter is ok, plugs, wires, all ok. Also if I would put it in park, and let it idle, and touch the gas a little, then let off, it would idle erractic. Up and down, up and down then level off to normal. What the heck is this problem? Thanks for any ideas.
gmbwrenchn
09-27-2006, 08:54 PM
A few other things forgot to mention also..............after it sits for awhile, it's very hard starting. When it sits idle in park, it's like it's starving for gas. The idle fluctuates dramatically, up down, up down. I changed the fuel filter about two months ago just FYI.
aaroni
09-27-2006, 09:40 PM
what engine do you have
gmbwrenchn
09-27-2006, 10:10 PM
3.1 Ltr.
aaroni
09-27-2006, 10:13 PM
its possible that you have a intake manifold gasket that had collapsed and is leaking vacuum internally.
gmbwrenchn
09-27-2006, 10:47 PM
Any way to check that?
gmbwrenchn
09-28-2006, 04:36 PM
New finding in this problem. I removed the cover off of the air filter and it's loaded with gas. The tube up to the intake as well. Is this a fuel issue problem? It's getting worse. I can't even hold an idle without it shut'n down. I've parked it for now till I get some more ideas.
maxwedge
09-28-2006, 06:30 PM
Check fuel pressure check for fuel in FP regulator vacuum hose also. One injector could be stuck open or all of them with a bad pcm, some more checking is in order here.
gmbwrenchn
09-28-2006, 06:38 PM
Thanks for the tip. I take it FP stands for "fuel pump" and pcm stands for????
Thanks, sorry for the ignorance.
Thanks, sorry for the ignorance.
aaroni
09-28-2006, 07:52 PM
fp regulator is the fuel pressure regulator. if the rubber diaghram is leaking it will dump unregulated fuel in the throttle body. with this new information that sounds like a very good possiblity. if you do find it leaking i would suggest changing the oil as soon as you fix the regulator.
gmbwrenchn
09-28-2006, 08:09 PM
Ok............where is that located, on the throttle body or back by the tank. Thanks much.
aaroni
09-28-2006, 08:46 PM
the regulator is on the fuel rail. there is a vacuum line going to it. pull the line off and look for raw fuel coming out of the fitting, sometimes you might have to wait for awhile to see the fuel.
gmbwrenchn
09-28-2006, 09:03 PM
If I see fuel coming out of the vacuum fitting, I take it thats no good and the regulator should be replaced? Thanks again.
gmbwrenchn
09-28-2006, 09:04 PM
Also should I do this while the car is running?
aaroni
09-28-2006, 09:23 PM
it sounds like you have found the problem. the regulator is a little more difficult to replace on this engie than most. if i remember correctly the upper inteke plenum needs to come off and the fuel rail removed. once this is done i can not stess enough the need to change you oil as the raw fuel dumping in will delute your oil
gmbwrenchn
09-29-2006, 08:22 PM
I got the upper intake plenum off. I pulled the line off of the fuel pressure regulator. Gas continues to dribble out of the regulator. Looks like we found the problem!!! I'm going to need to order that regulator. May be a few days till I get it.......stand by.......Thanks for the help!
gmbwrenchn
10-08-2006, 06:25 PM
Well I fianally got the regulator from rock auto. That was the problem!!!! She runs like a champ again. Thanks so much for all the help!! As for having to chane the oil, I don't smell any gas in the oil, is it really necessary? I just got done changing it a week ago.
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