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jakegday
09-18-2006, 08:54 AM
has anyone ever replaced the power steering pump on the 2200 engine?? if so i have questions, here they are: can you do it all from the top? or do you have to go under the car for something?? did you have to move the entire cruise control thing? (the "control box" thing that the accelerator cable goes into) and did you have to remove that motor mount, the one right in the fucking way of the pump, also if you have any advice for me, i'd appreciate it, my engine started making a funny noise this weekend, it sounds like a cross between a power steering pump, and a roots style supercharger winding up, (you know that kinda moaning/whining noise they make) and i went to check the fluid, it was bone dry, i filled it up and the noise is still here, but im still assuming its the pump,

my99cavy
09-18-2006, 11:36 AM
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Fig. 1: Power steering pump mounting-2.2L engine
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Fig. 2: Location of the power steering pump-2.3L/2.4L engine

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Fig. 3: Use these tools to remove and install the pulley from the pump assembly-2.2L engine only


Disconnect the negative battery cable.
Remove the serpentine belt (2.2L engine only).
Disconnect and cap the lines at the pump.
Remove the mounting bolts, then remove the pump.

jakegday
09-18-2006, 05:07 PM
well i appreciate the help, however i own a haynes manual, so you didnt really tell me anything i didnt already know, but again, thanks, can anyone else help with my questions???

jakegday
09-20-2006, 09:22 AM
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31/jakegday/new.jpg

well here it is, its about 1/3 the size i was expecting it to be, i guess ive never seen a new power steering pump before though, i was looking at the haynes manual, and under my hood and i dont know how in the FUCK this is gonna work, but im gonna give it a shot on saturday, has anyone here ever replaced a power steering pump??? im assuming im gonna have to take the resivoir off the current pump and put it on this new one??? dont know how the hell im gonna get it off either, it says theres 3 bolts, ive found 0, ive looked from all angles, felt around, and have found nothing, so like i said, i dont know the fuck this is gonna work, sooo........ can anyone answer ANY of my questions??

Classicrocjunkie
09-20-2006, 04:28 PM
It can all be done from above. You'd only have to go below if you need to change the lines.

jakegday
09-20-2006, 05:12 PM
have you done this before?!?!?!?

Classicrocjunkie
09-20-2006, 09:49 PM
have you done this before?!?!?!?


Do you seriously need to ask that?

There are holes in the pully for a reason. ;) Stick your finger through them when the holes are towards the bottom like 4 and 8 o'clock ish range. 2 of them are located behind that, and the other one is obsolete and basically in plain view. If need be I can snap a pic for you, but the diagram up top that 99 cavy posted are right on the money.

my99cavy
09-20-2006, 09:51 PM
Yeah I mean come on its fuckin cody were talking about jake :shakehead you should know this guy has torn a few engine apart.

Classicrocjunkie
09-20-2006, 10:13 PM
Yeah I mean come on its fuckin cody were talking about jake :shakehead you should know this guy has torn a few engine apart.

I'm working on getting up there... GM engines are quite simple..

I wana get my hands on an Audi engine or BMW. I plan on one of those being my next car and those are expensive as all fuck to have fixed. Little more complex that a 2.2, 2.4, 3400, 3800 engines.


One of the shops i deliver to, had a crate Jaguar engine sitting there on a pallet all wrapped up still... I just drooled and let my jaw hit the floor. I wanted at that thing.

jakegday
09-20-2006, 11:31 PM
yes i know about the 2 bolts behind the pulley, did you take the resivoir off before or after the pump?? and how did it come off?? does it just pull off? (i dont see any bolt holes/mounts on this pump for it) my haynes manual doesnt say anything about the resivoir, but im assuming it comes off since this new pump doesnt have one....

Classicrocjunkie
09-21-2006, 09:58 PM
yes i know about the 2 bolts behind the pulley, did you take the resivoir off before or after the pump?? and how did it come off?? does it just pull off? (i dont see any bolt holes/mounts on this pump for it) my haynes manual doesnt say anything about the resivoir, but im assuming it comes off since this new pump doesnt have one....


Well I was too lazy to take the car cover off my girl, so i snaped a pic at work with my cam phone. There are 2 clips that hold the resovoir to the actual pump/pully portion. Then an O ring for where the resovoir seats onto the pump which should have been supplied with yours.

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/840/cid0921060754ri9.jpg

Red circle is the culprit.

jakegday
09-21-2006, 11:36 PM
ok, i got it now, it looks like it just slides right off the back, it came with 2 o-rings, one the size of a nickel, and another one thats pretty small, it also came with a bolt about 2 inches long, and a washer and a nut for that bolt, that bolt does not fit in any of the "bolt holes" on the pump either, any idea what the bolt is gonna be for?

Classicrocjunkie
09-24-2006, 12:31 AM
ok, i got it now, it looks like it just slides right off the back, it came with 2 o-rings, one the size of a nickel, and another one thats pretty small, it also came with a bolt about 2 inches long, and a washer and a nut for that bolt, that bolt does not fit in any of the "bolt holes" on the pump either, any idea what the bolt is gonna be for?


Not sure really.. Just reuse your stock ones.

jakegday
09-24-2006, 02:35 AM
well i got it done, that was pretty much the hardest car repair ive ever done, a complete pain in the ass, unbolting the pump, and taking the hoses off wasnt bad, then i go to pull it out and find out theres a 4th bolt in the back, so i take that and then realize the pump wont come out, theres this black piece of steel that serves no purpose whatsoever, that i couldnt get the pulley past, if you look in the pic, you'll see how its right above the pulley (circled in green), anyways, what i had to do was wedge the "pulley puller" in there, with the pump still in the car, remove the pulley, so i could get the pump out, then i put the pulley on the new pump right away, sat it down in there, then put the resivoir on it, a complete pain in the ass, then getting it bolted back in its "cradle" was another pain in the ass, i said fuck it and left the 4th bolt out, the one in the back, so then, i fill it, bleed it, do all that fun stuff, only to find out the noise is still there, FUCK!! alternator is next on the list....
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31/jakegday/dsafdsafdasf.jpg
i did end up moving that whole cruise control assembly, i dont think i would have been able to do it without moving that

the new serpentine belt was also a complete bitch to get on, but it was nothing compared to everything else

also, i never did find out what that bolt was for

Classicrocjunkie
09-24-2006, 10:30 AM
That black piece of metal serves a purpose if you ever have to pull your engine. The one i did the pump on didn't have the cruise control assembly on it. So it was a wide open area.. What kind of noise are you hearing man? Is it a rattle like a pinging noise if you shake a penny in a tin can, or more like a squealing?

jakegday
09-24-2006, 10:41 AM
lol, i cant really describe it, its kinda a whining/moaning noise, i thought for sure it sounded like a bad power steering pump, and the whining/moaning goes up and down with the RPMs so the power steering pump just made sense, when i had the belt off, i spun the alternator pulley for shits and giggles, and it made kinda a clicking/clanging sound, and after thinking about it, i jump started probably 4 people the day i started noticing the noise, which makes me think even more its now the alternator, but im also having a new problem, when im in 3/4th gear, and go to shift into second, like right after making a turn or whatever, it kinda grinds, like im not pressing down on the clutch far enough, but its down all the way, (i checked the clutch fluid, its full) and second gear isnt the only gear that does it, it just does it the most, im probably gonna wait a few weeks and see if the noise gets terribly worse, and if so, that should help me diagnose the problem better, any input though??


also, how did you get the pulley past that chunk of metal?? did you have to do the fucked up procedure i did??? i knew it served a purpose, i was just royally pissed off and didnt see it doing anything but making my job harder, at the time

Classicrocjunkie
09-24-2006, 10:38 PM
I was going to say a shot tensioner but thats like a screaming noise, or a bad AC compressor would be the clanging...

As for the Power steering one.. I just back it right out the back cradle and all, took a little finessing.

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