Mclaren F1 - Customer Order Form

Hello, if anyone is interested here is a picture of the mclaren f1 order form, wher people signed it and gave the deposit of £100,000+

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/9333/mclarenf1customerorderformzl0.jpg

sorry the resolution isnt fantastic, i wish i could get my hands on one of these (it would be interesting) but theres only about 100 (guess)

Cool


Where did you get that pic? Its got the guys name, address and phone # on it

Very cool. :bigthumb:

Can anyone make out what it says?

Mr. Peter C something or the other.

Looks like a UK address, since the phone number seems to be 0780 232120 or something, and it seems to have the typical English 6-character Postcode, but the country could also be Switzerland (don't know what Swiss postcodes look like, or if they even have such things).

Deposit seems to be 106,000.00 GBP.

Edit: Dated Jan. 14, 1995.
There's a December 14, 1995 date on there as well.
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Interesting stuff.

Mr. Peter C something or the other.

Looks like a UK address, since the phone number seems to be 0780 232120 or something, and it seems to have the typical English 6-character Postcode, but the country could also be Switzerland (don't know what Swiss postcodes look like, or if they even have such things).

Deposit seems to be 106,000.00 GBP.

Dated Dec. 14, 1998.
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Interesting stuff.

Jan. 14, 1995.

Wow, nice find. Though I would take photos of everything when buying a car like a McLaren F1 but I dont think I would like a photo like this out and about on the internet.

Hmmm - next to the field "Customer Reference Number" is written "At least 17,000,000". I hate to say it, but I very much doubt that is a genuine order form! Or at least, the layout of the form may be genuine, but I don't think there is a genuine order on it...

Hmmm - next to the field "Customer Reference Number" is written "At least 17,000,000". I hate to say it, but I very much doubt that is a genuine order form! Or at least, the layout of the form may be genuine, but I don't think there is a genuine order on it...It's probably income, not purchase price.

I doubt its income. Why they need to know that? Thats not the kind of thing you put on an order form?

I doubt its income. Why they need to know that? Thats not the kind of thing you put on an order form?...for the same reason they'd check your credit any time you sign a lease, ask for a loan, or make a purchase of a very expensive item.

The order form may very well be false, but 17 million (of some currency) is possibly income.

I doubt that McLaren has any reason to doubt its customer's purchasing power, but if such information is requested, it's probably a guard against scams, and/or a formality.

.......The order form may very well be false...........

its 100% genuine :)

There is no way they would put "At least 17,000,000" on the order form. Its not (for lack of a better word), polite (or proper). I see no reason to put the income on there. If he got to the stage where he needs the order form, would his credit not have been checked already?

...for the same reason they'd check your credit any time you sign a lease, ask for a loan, or make a purchase of a very expensive item.

The order form may very well be false, but 17 million (of some currency) is possibly income.

I doubt that McLaren has any reason to doubt its customer's purchasing power, but if such information is requested, it's probably a guard against scams, and/or a formality.No, you would never ask income on an order form. If it was a credit form, sure. But then, no one would disclose income like that, I don't think.

its 100% genuine :)Sorry, the info on the order form may very well be false...

No, you would never ask income on an order form. If it was a credit form, sure. But then, no one would disclose income like that, I don't think.

There is no way they would put "At least 17,000,000" on the order form. Its not (for lack of a better word), polite (or proper). I see no reason to put the income on there. If he got to the stage where he needs the order form, would his credit not have been checked already?

What if I walk into McLaren and they find I have perfect credit on my high limit card, timely repayment of loans, and no bounced checks ever, but in truth I have no actual means (savings or income) to pay for an F1 in a reasonable amount of time (i.e. before I'm dead.)?

The line says "Cusomter ____ ____ 17,000,000." So if you can determine what the next two words are, feel free. It appears to be "Customer's Reported Income" or "Customer's Reference Income." The quesion is: does anybody have a better explanation for such a high figure? Income, insurance? Surely it wouldn't be the asking price of the car, and 17 million sounds excessive for insurance purposes. The deposit amount is listed further down the page, so it can't be that either.

Every time I have to state my income on a form, I always either give a range, or say "at least" to show I meet the minimum requirement for something.

If you're so sure it's NOT income, then what is it? If you have a better explanation then do tell before being so quick to discount mine...

Chill out man, i'm not trying to piss you off here. I'm just saying that in my opinion they wouldn't put the customers income on there. Also, i'm fairly sure it says "Customer reference number"

Honesty, i have no idea what it could be and we're all speculating here on something that we have no idea on. It might not be either of these things.

Chill out man, i'm not trying to piss you off here. I'm just saying that in my opinion they wouldn't put the customers income on there. Also, i'm fairly sure it says "Customer reference number"

Honesty, i have no idea what it could be and we're all speculating here on something that we have no idea on. It might not be either of these things.Alright, so if it does say customer reference number then "at least 17,000,000" is a humorous way of filling out the form, playing on the fact that a car like the F1 is super desirable?

Yes, that would be a lot more plausible than someone being so crass as to write in at least 17,000,000 for income.

And do chill out, we may not know what it is, but common sense can let us discount a LOT of possibilities, including this being some customer asserting his income.

it does say "Customer Reference Number" but it doesnt say "At least".............

it does say "Customer Reference Number" but it doesnt say "At least".............What does it say?

Ok. It seems i may have been a little wrong. The 17 mil figure on the McLaren order form is likely the minimum determined net worth from a background banking check. McLaren typically, no matter who you are, asks for financial references to determine that one can afford their cars. Banks issue a statment similar to a letter of credit but not so invasive as to a specific net worth.

Still not definately that but possible

Would anyone REALLY like to know what it says on the form (as I happen to have it !) ?

Would anyone REALLY like to know what it says on the form (as I happen to have it !) ?
It would be nice to know, or even better a scan of it if possable.

I'm not in position to scan the document in its entirety (due to the sensitive nature of the the personal details completed !) but can happily answer any questions on the content and will try to post some photos of the printed text(if someone could advise the best method as I'm a AF Newbie !) ?
I purchased the item complete with Monaco F1 launch brochure, mailing box and covering letter (thanking the addressee for his enquiry and arranging a further appointment to complete the purchase) on ebay for less than the "going rate" for the Monaco F1 launch brochure alone !
Thanks for the entertaining "threads" of topics that I've enjoyed reading over the past few years ! You guys are SERIOUS about the F1 !

I'm not in position to scan the document in its entirety (due to the sensitive nature of the the personal details completed !)
We all understand that. It was a long shot.

but can happily answer any questions on the content and will try to post some photos of the printed text(if someone could advise the best method as I'm a AF Newbie !) ?
You could scan and Photoshop the text that you can share and post it on a popular photo sharing website. You could also upload to automotive forums but this will leave a watermark that may cover some of the text. Also, I have my own website and could host the photos for you if you like.

OK I'll try to put a little something together for you tomorrow !
Oh, and by the way, the headed paper of the order form bears a REALLY neatly embossed F1 logo !
Until tomorrow !

Nice image hosting Payso ! There was a SPECIFIC reason why I wasn't going to expand on the personal details completed, and that was that I'm still in contact with the addressee on the form; I was hoping to obtain some greater detail regarding the circumstances surrounding the non-completion of the form; let's hope he'll still talk to me despite your enhancement and publication of his (previous) details !
As we say in UK - slowly, slowly, catchee monkey !:banghead:

Nice image hosting Payso ! There was a SPECIFIC reason why I wasn't going to expand on the personal details completed, and that was that I'm still in contact with the addressee on the form; I was hoping to obtain some greater detail regarding the circumstances surrounding the non-completion of the form; let's hope he'll still talk to me despite your enhancement and publication of his (previous) details !
As we say in UK - slowly, slowly, catchee monkey !:banghead:


To be fair, Payso wasnt to know the text above (in red) and i hope this thread isn't going to go the same way as others have done in the past and get into a flaming war, keep that to PM's if possible please?:frown:

The info re the order form is a great find, lets see what other gems we can unearth! :)

That's a fair comment Hurstg01, but bearing in mind that I'd only JUST posted the offer to display printed text and content, I was somewhat surprised to find the addressee's full (previous) address and contact details in full Technicolour on the thread.
What I can confirm (prior to posting the above content) is that the addressee NEVER had the wherewithall to order the car, nor that his name or address (as completed by McLaren in blue ballpoint pen on the order form) is current; the telephone number is an old UK dialling code (prior to the upgrading of the area codes to add an extra digit after the first number) and NOT a cellphone number as it appears to the casual observer !
He has subsequently moved but curiously enough (bearing in mind the worldwide appeal of both McLaren and ebay) now only lives within 5 minutes' drive of my own home ! How much of a coincidence is that ?
Anyway, I digress; I'll post clear photos of all pages as soon as I can and am happy to answer any questions anyone has ?
I also own another document, containing paint and trim samples from another actual McLaren F1 order, which was placed on behalf of a US-based Computer Millionaire if anyone's interested ?:)

I'll post clear photos of all pages as soon as I can and am happy to answer any questions anyone has ?
please!!:)
I also own another document, containing paint and trim samples from another actual McLaren F1 order, which was placed on behalf of a US-based Computer Millionaire if anyone's interested ?:)
and please again!....:)

Nice image hosting Payso ! There was a SPECIFIC reason why I wasn't going to expand on the personal details completed, and that was that I'm still in contact with the addressee on the form; I was hoping to obtain some greater detail regarding the circumstances surrounding the non-completion of the form; let's hope he'll still talk to me despite your enhancement and publication of his (previous) details !
As we say in UK - slowly, slowly, catchee monkey !:banghead:

I do apologise, but the pictures were readily available from the auction, so ive not exactly done anything wrong here, people ask for the images, i copied and pasted? im not here to start up any arguments of any sort.

Anyone could easily have done this, and selling something of the sort you would at least expect the seller to have blocked out the address and addressee on the letters rather than put "supersize" images with the most explicit details into a worldwide open to any member of public auction. :)

For what im trying to say, here is the link to the auction:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280029304789&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.co.uk%3A80%2Fsearch%2F search.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26satitle%3D280029304789%2 6fvi%3D1

The info I posted was already made public by the rightful owner of the details, so I havent done anything wrong. :uhoh:

I take your point Payso, and I think there's a danger of "doing it to death" to discuss it further; as you rightly state, the details are in the public domain and hence freely available to do with as you wish; suffice to say the addressee NEVER had the backing to order the car and on reviewing the form I must correct my previous posting that stated that McLaren had filled in the form in blue ballpoint pen, where it's fairly obvious (when perusing the actual item)that the "signature witnessed by" sections (on the lines beneath the signature) are blank !
I think hosting the document in its entirety will clarify all those burning questions that you guys all have, so that's my next step (subject to acceptable natural lighting conditions for photography); any suggestions on preferred resolution for the photos ? :wave:

any suggestions on preferred resolution for the photos ? :wave:

the biggest and the best!! :grinno:

Any resolution where the writing is legible. 4 megapixels should do it. And until you get that done, could you please tell us what it says on the line where some of us seem to think 17,000,000 GBP is being mentioned?

Thanks.

It states: "Customer Reference Number* AT LEAST 17000000 (Handwritten)
*To be completed if customer has already completed a registration form and paid an initial deposit.
Hope this helps in lieu of the photos which I'll host tomorrow night ?:evillol: