What kind of motor is this?
clipse_thumper
09-16-2006, 04:38 PM
Not sure where to post this so no flame about it.
http://photo.hotfreelayouts.com/upload.php?id=4031590
http://photo.hotfreelayouts.com/upload.php?id=4031641
http://photo.hotfreelayouts.com/upload.php?id=4031652
http://photo.hotfreelayouts.com/upload.php?id=4031669
i know the pictures aren't all that great at all but let me know what you think. it's straight from japan and all but when i bought it they said it isn't exactly like the 4g63, that it as some extra sensors on it or something. when my mechanic put it in, he said it wasn't the same motor either and that the only thing he could use off of it was the block itself. i know it looks pretty crummy but that is just dirt and oil pilled up. i opened it up after i bought it and it is a champ. to me it looks like a 4g63 but i'm no expert.
http://photo.hotfreelayouts.com/upload.php?id=4031590
http://photo.hotfreelayouts.com/upload.php?id=4031641
http://photo.hotfreelayouts.com/upload.php?id=4031652
http://photo.hotfreelayouts.com/upload.php?id=4031669
i know the pictures aren't all that great at all but let me know what you think. it's straight from japan and all but when i bought it they said it isn't exactly like the 4g63, that it as some extra sensors on it or something. when my mechanic put it in, he said it wasn't the same motor either and that the only thing he could use off of it was the block itself. i know it looks pretty crummy but that is just dirt and oil pilled up. i opened it up after i bought it and it is a champ. to me it looks like a 4g63 but i'm no expert.
crunchymilk55
09-16-2006, 04:42 PM
well I can't see anything in the pics, so I'll just ignore those. But just going off of your mech's description I would say it's probably a cyclone motor, and yes most of it will work.
EDMUND65
09-16-2006, 04:53 PM
:useless: good pic's where we can actually see soemthing...
clipse_thumper
09-16-2006, 05:12 PM
:useless: good pic's where we can actually see soemthing...
pm sent
pm sent
Thor06
09-16-2006, 05:20 PM
Yeah, looks like a cyclone engine to me too. If you look at the first pic the pulley's are set up just like my Talon's were (god knows I fucked around with belts enough) and though hard to read, the valve cover looks like a 4g63's.
clipse_thumper
09-16-2006, 05:24 PM
cyclone? drop some knowledge on this newbie
clipse_thumper
09-16-2006, 05:28 PM
don't cyclone usually say "cyclone" on it? and i it is, is it a good motor or a bad one?
Blackcrow64
09-16-2006, 05:50 PM
It is indeed the 4g63, weather its a 6 or 7 bolt though, I can't tell...
clipse_thumper
09-16-2006, 05:52 PM
that what i am really trying to get down to. if it's a 6 or a 7
NateS
09-16-2006, 07:20 PM
By the looks of the valve cover and the spark plug cover it looks like a 1st gen 4g63 to me. I have no idea if it would be a 6 or 7 bolt but it deffinatly looks like a 1st gen to me.
NateS
09-16-2006, 07:20 PM
HERE this might help....
http://www.vfaq.com/mods/early-late-engine.html
It is pretty self explainatory and it is very easy to do.
http://www.vfaq.com/mods/early-late-engine.html
It is pretty self explainatory and it is very easy to do.
Blackcrow64
09-17-2006, 02:10 AM
Here is a simpler way to tell...
6 bolts have 5 star cam gears and 7 bolts have 4 star cam gears.
How many of you guys actually knew that bit of information? I actually discovered this on accident one day while observing my two motors. Got online and did some research and sure enough they are seperated like that. So if anybody ever looks at a 2g that supposedly has a 6 bolt swap, just give the cam gears a quick look to see if its in fact a true swap. :wink:
6 bolts have 5 star cam gears and 7 bolts have 4 star cam gears.
How many of you guys actually knew that bit of information? I actually discovered this on accident one day while observing my two motors. Got online and did some research and sure enough they are seperated like that. So if anybody ever looks at a 2g that supposedly has a 6 bolt swap, just give the cam gears a quick look to see if its in fact a true swap. :wink:
NateS
09-17-2006, 02:19 AM
Although, you could always put the 2g head on the 6 bolt block like I am going to do :)
Blackcrow64
09-17-2006, 03:09 AM
Although, you could always put the 2g head on the 6 bolt block like I am going to do :)
You have to do a good bit of machine work for them to bolt up correctly.
You have to do a good bit of machine work for them to bolt up correctly.
crunchymilk55
09-17-2006, 03:50 AM
You have to do a good bit of machine work for them to bolt up correctly.
nothing you can't do with a dremel!
a big one!
:grinyes:
nothing you can't do with a dremel!
a big one!
:grinyes:
NateS
09-17-2006, 12:39 PM
Haha yes I am aware of that. I know the holes for the head studs needs bored out and there are a few other minor fitment issues for a few sensors and such. I am determined to do it so I'll find a way.
Blackcrow64
09-17-2006, 12:56 PM
Ok, just so long as you were aware that it wasn't a simple "bolt on and go" swap. lol
blk_srt
09-17-2006, 04:38 PM
could it be a 4g61?
clipse_thumper
09-17-2006, 06:25 PM
what's a 4G61?
blk_srt
09-17-2006, 06:51 PM
its a 1.6L that looks the exact same as the 4g63 it came in the marage
clipse_thumper
09-17-2006, 07:02 PM
i don't think it's that. i can beat stock gst's. not sure if i am a good driver or if it's a good motor
Blackcrow64
09-17-2006, 07:41 PM
Trust me, a 4g61 won't touch a 4g63t... I'm gonna assume that it is indeed a 4g63t based on you being able to beat stock GSTs...
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