What kind of motor is this?

Not sure where to post this so no flame about it.

http://photo.hotfreelayouts.com/upload.php?id=4031590

http://photo.hotfreelayouts.com/upload.php?id=4031641

http://photo.hotfreelayouts.com/upload.php?id=4031652

http://photo.hotfreelayouts.com/upload.php?id=4031669

i know the pictures aren't all that great at all but let me know what you think. it's straight from japan and all but when i bought it they said it isn't exactly like the 4g63, that it as some extra sensors on it or something. when my mechanic put it in, he said it wasn't the same motor either and that the only thing he could use off of it was the block itself. i know it looks pretty crummy but that is just dirt and oil pilled up. i opened it up after i bought it and it is a champ. to me it looks like a 4g63 but i'm no expert.

well I can't see anything in the pics, so I'll just ignore those. But just going off of your mech's description I would say it's probably a cyclone motor, and yes most of it will work.

:useless: good pic's where we can actually see soemthing...

:useless: good pic's where we can actually see soemthing...


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Yeah, looks like a cyclone engine to me too. If you look at the first pic the pulley's are set up just like my Talon's were (god knows I fucked around with belts enough) and though hard to read, the valve cover looks like a 4g63's.

cyclone? drop some knowledge on this newbie

don't cyclone usually say "cyclone" on it? and i it is, is it a good motor or a bad one?

It is indeed the 4g63, weather its a 6 or 7 bolt though, I can't tell...

that what i am really trying to get down to. if it's a 6 or a 7

By the looks of the valve cover and the spark plug cover it looks like a 1st gen 4g63 to me. I have no idea if it would be a 6 or 7 bolt but it deffinatly looks like a 1st gen to me.

HERE this might help....

http://www.vfaq.com/mods/early-late-engine.html

It is pretty self explainatory and it is very easy to do.

Here is a simpler way to tell...

6 bolts have 5 star cam gears and 7 bolts have 4 star cam gears.

How many of you guys actually knew that bit of information? I actually discovered this on accident one day while observing my two motors. Got online and did some research and sure enough they are seperated like that. So if anybody ever looks at a 2g that supposedly has a 6 bolt swap, just give the cam gears a quick look to see if its in fact a true swap. :wink:

Although, you could always put the 2g head on the 6 bolt block like I am going to do :)

Although, you could always put the 2g head on the 6 bolt block like I am going to do :)
You have to do a good bit of machine work for them to bolt up correctly.

You have to do a good bit of machine work for them to bolt up correctly.


nothing you can't do with a dremel!

a big one!

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Haha yes I am aware of that. I know the holes for the head studs needs bored out and there are a few other minor fitment issues for a few sensors and such. I am determined to do it so I'll find a way.

Ok, just so long as you were aware that it wasn't a simple "bolt on and go" swap. lol

could it be a 4g61?

what's a 4G61?

its a 1.6L that looks the exact same as the 4g63 it came in the marage

i don't think it's that. i can beat stock gst's. not sure if i am a good driver or if it's a good motor

Trust me, a 4g61 won't touch a 4g63t... I'm gonna assume that it is indeed a 4g63t based on you being able to beat stock GSTs...