S2000 engine in an Integra

alright, my friend has found a wrecked S2000 for 6,000 and we were talkin ya know, and we want to take the engine and tranny, driveshaft, diffrential, ya know all of that and we want to put it on an Integra, first of all would this be possible??, i think it would be and second would it be a good idea, cuz i mean i love the 6 speed manual, and he needs to leard to drive a stick yet, but he also said he wants a unique teg so i figured ya know, this would make it very unique, i have also posted this in the Integra forum for others to look at, please post your opinion about it!!

Dude i say go for it man
you never know till you try
you should go to a local honda specialist
but i'm pretty damn sure the 2.0 will fit into the teg

no it wont

Yes it will

Originally posted by Phily
Yes it will

not without spending alot of $$$$$. s2000 engine spin in a different direction and is for rear wheel drive.

not without spending alot of $$$$$. s2000 engine spin in a different direction and is for rear wheel drive.

yeah true
but i was just saying that it is possible

i guess with this conversion
your probably looking at a good 8 to 10 grand

If it cost 8~10gs. I would sell Integra and buy brand new S2000

it's going to be more than 8-10 grand. And you have to make major modification to the integra frame to get the engine to mount right. (remember, the s2k engine is not a transverse engine, it mounts longitudinally) Good luck finding a shop that's willing to do it, because most won't due to liability from weakening the frame/mounts from such a custom swap....

I've said it before and ill say it again
ANYTHING is possible with money.
But with the money you are going to spend on converting the intergra from front wheel to rear wheel drive is going to cost as much as getting a new s2000.
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phily should know... he has a chevy small block in his lude.

I think it's stupid ya know, and even if you spend all that money ya know, you can buy a better one ya know, stick with simple ya know, and don't be doing things that no one else has done ya know, because you're no professional ya know.

Oh yea i think v10_viper's sentence is still longer than mines YA KNOW.

Originally posted by Phily
Yes it will
no it won't and much more than 10 g's

Originally posted by asnrefugee
I think it's stupid ya know, and even if you spend all that money ya know, you can buy a better one ya know, stick with simple ya know, and don't be doing things that no one else has done ya know, because you're no professional ya know.

Oh yea i think v10_viper's sentence is still longer than mines YA KNOW.

man would you grow up, geez you act like a 3 year old, and your no proffessional either so do you think i really give a shit about your opinion. you obviously don't know shit, cuz it is highly possible to do it, like some say, it would just cost a shitload of money that he doesn't have.

btw everyone, go ahead and just drop this thread cuz this idea's toast, he found a 91 Integra LS hatchback and he has me tellin him what mods to pick, also, any of you know a good sight for mods for tegs?? if ya do please tell me, thanks.

later

ok look for the money and the time your gonna put into it just buy an S
if you wana really cool custom car.. try something diff cause there are gonna be lots of people putting an f20c into their car.. or at least trying to ..

But won't a accord tranny bolt up, Both F series?

there was an article/paragraph in honda tuner or importtuner or some mag like that saying that an S2000 engine won't go into any other honda car. 'cept maybe the S800 but the frame on that thing won't be able to handle the amount of power the 2K engine will provide so it's useless.

me and a friend of mine thought about putting a s-2000 motor into a 94 civic hatch and converting it to rear wheel drive. First of all it's possible. Second of all it'll cost about 15k and you need know someone who owns a shop. You'll have to custom weld a lot of stuff obviously but if you can really get a wrecked s-2000 for 6k that's a very good start....if most of the hardware in the s-2000 is still usable. cause you need pretty much everything from that car. You'll have to put the whole s-2000 year end in the integra and probably shorten the rear end about 2 inches since the s-2000 is wider. Also you'll have to move your gastank either into the trunk or custom make on so that the drive line will fit. I could go on about this forever and tell you more details but basically if you got someone who can weld (and weld very good) it can be done. Plus you'd have the only rear wheel drive teg I've ever heard of and it would be fast as hell. Anyways good luck with whatever you decide to do.

yeah, mine is the hatch 92teggsr is talking about. i mean, weld like some kind of cage that mounts to your engine mounts and has new mounts for the engine and transmission. there is already the tunnel wherte the exhaust is down the center so there is room for the driveline ands exhaust there, the tank is in the way, move that somewhere else(where? I dunno) and then mounting the rear diff would be tricky, but with steel and a good welder very posible. how much heavier is the f20c than the B series? stiffer front suspension. getting power from the diff to the wheels couldnt be too hard, maybe have to get custom length axles or something. and since it is cv axles like the front kinda, coulnt you use driven hubs off the front and put em in back and put the free spinning ones from the back up front? also the hood needs to be clearanced i bet, maybe a hood scoop. and i dont know how big the transmission is but it might fit, otherwise some of the firewall has got to go.

anyone with an S-2000 please give me dimensions of engine and transmission.

mang.....there is noo way yall can fit and s2ooo engine in tat teg.......unless u freaking spend like >$10 G's..............Gl on tat teg

yes you can fit a F20C engine in a integra body how? simple you can't have a dashboard. j/p there is no way in hell you can do that it'll cost you about 20k without labor just t do it and if you do have the money to do it why do it. yes I know becasue you will have a(n) S200 engine in your integra but with all the lmoney that you pend on that project you'll be abile to import a JDM ITR and have it spooned/mugened out and it'll be way faster.

you dont have to get rid of your dash :rolleyes:

you would have o get rid of the lower portion of the firewall, and Im sure you could strengthen the upper part to keep your kar together, and you could ad reinforcments below. there is room for the engine I KNOW and the tranny cant be that big, i havent sen it but ve seen lots of newer manuals and they are tiny. anyonme wanna give me a blank chack so I can prove this guy wrong :D :p

...i see it working...just not for a price within reach.

i mean....doesn't anyone remember the AE86 (Corolla GTS) and the AW11 (MR2)?

same engine (4A-G) except transverse in the AW11

good luck :p

I might have cash someday, and just to see, can anyone that has an S 2000 measure the size of there tranny for me,

ok, an s2000 weighs in at 2809 pounds, my hatch weighs in at 2108, and a 95 LS weighs in at 2643.

so a hatch with a F20C swap and about 150 pounds of added steel, it would only weigh about 2400 pounds (im jus guessing F20C weighs in at 150 pounds over D15b, anyone know)
and so that would be a bit faster than a stock S2000 if you get good launches.


and in a teg it would probably be like 2800 pounds again, assuming B series is about 100 pounds over the D series and then another 50 for the F20. so it isnt lighter, is way more unique, is possible for me to afford insurance on(I got a bad record) and If i was going to do this id probably do it to a teg so I got some class to go along with my very expensive auto. but you can get a teg theft recovery for like 2 G's and the swap for 4 G's

so as soon as I go to school this september and get my money from my account that doesnt open til then, sell my truck/hatch/mustang Illl have like 20K

so 14k to do the swap, I dont wanna spend it al though but Im gonna talk to my friend who owns a muffler shop(but have done many other things on their personal cars in back) and se how much he thinks. If I could end wiht like 4k still, Im doin it.

oh yeah, even though it isnt done, never has been and might never be, I wanna know something.

a teg with a F20C I/H/E VAFC, tuned good, you think I could hit mid 13's?

OK !! I just saw yesterday a 95 hatch with a F20C engine in it. It's kinda a crazy mods man!! I didn't talk with the guy but it seems the firewall wasn't touched (not 100% sure though). You still have to convert it to a rear wheel drive (obvious enough) So running a driveshaft to the back with a chassis not design for this might be a little problem. Another thing is the engine is sitting WAY lower on his mountings than a B series so a custom mounting kit (not very complicated if you can use a welder) The car was working great. No major modifications inside. All the necassery things are done under. Besides that (meaning what we can see with the hood opened and crouching under to see under it) every things seems normal. I didn't see if the rear suspension was altered cause he had bigger fender so it might be (there's a real meaning to do that to a car han?).

As I was looking at it ... I thought MAN !!! That must be a beast at the track!! But guess what (I saw it in Car Fever in Napierville, QC Canada and it has a 1/4 track) the guy brought it to the track. I thought OHHH MYYY GODDD!!! Just before a nearly stock S2000 did 14.29 so I thought he would do a great time. WRONG!!! 15.34!! Nearly 1 sec slower!! What the heck!!! So two reasons for this : 1- the guy is a stupid fakeass punk driver who shoulg ONLY exposed his car .. NOT drive it!! 2- The chassis is really not working with this design and do not deliver the required stability to a great sport car. Let's face it S2000 = sports car, Civic = economy car. Different mentality, different design.

So my tip to this is to forget about that swap. If you want a unique set-up and win show with it ... FINE !! But otherwise ... I mean a B18C in a hatch runs faster than a stock S2000 so ... But it's a great and unique set-up and surely a pain in the ass too!! Was my .02 cents!

BTW .. The show was great ... maybe not the quality of US ones but close .... It was great to see Vipers, Corvettes Z06, Bimmers M5, S2000s, one GS400 (was really bad) and Audis.

Hope this long post help a litlle.

well, I dont see a 15.4 coming out of a 240+ HP hatch back, when i saw one with 170+ run a 14.2, maybe he sucks at driving or it took so much extra steeel to bolt it in it is hundreds of pounds heavier than a B18C hatch. but I still wanna do it, just dont have time right now dont wanna tear my car apart again, now that ive done it about 3 times.