No Manual Shift Mode for Automatic Sky Redline!!
LIONS*LEADER
09-13-2006, 02:44 AM
so i was reading a testdrive review here,
http://www.autosite.com/content/shared/articles/templates/index.cfm/article_page_order_int/5/article_id_int/2125
and after i read this, "if you choose the automatic transmission, you may be dismayed by the lack of a manual shifting mode."
i truly was dismayed. the perfect car i had been reading about and waiting for. the one that was affordable, purely for fun & driving with the top down , fast as anything under 40,000$ was ruined.
why in the world would they not use a manual shift mode? someone tell me im wrong please....
heres the review....
Our test drive of the 2007 Saturn Sky (http://www.autosite.com/content/research/vir/index.cfm/make_vch/Saturn/model_vch/Sky) Red Line led from the coast in Santa Barbara, up highway 101, then along the back roads of the Santa Inez Valley, famous for its wine, its scenery, and Michael Jackson's Neverland Ranch. On this route we were able to sample the car in a city environment, on the expressway, and on the twisty two-lane roads where the Sky Red Line is most at home. In most respects, we decided that the Sky Red Line is a capable, engaging, and entertaining sports car.
Let's get the criticism about the driving the car out of the way. The brake pedal feels too stiff, features a limited range of travel, and makes it hard to feed fine-tuned pressure to the discs. Also, if you choose the automatic transmission, you may be dismayed by the lack of a manual shifting mode. Otherwise, the Saturn Sky Red Line is one fun car to drive. Finally, the steering isn't as communicative as we might like, but we like what a BMW (http://www.autosite.com/content/research/makesearch/index.cfm/action/SelectModel2/make_vch/BMW) delivers and few vehicles on the road today manage to match the best from Bavaria.
Though the Sky Red Line's manual transmission could use added refinement and an extra gear, it's a much better piece of engineering than what we've experienced in the 2006 Pontiac Solstice (http://www.autosite.com/content/research/vir/index.cfm/make_vch/Pontiac/model_vch/Solstice). The addition of a torque tube gives the shift action more refinement and better feel while placing the mechanicals farther back in the chassis to improve isolation from the cabin. No, it's not on par with the industry-defining manual gearboxes installed in the Honda S2000 (http://www.autosite.com/content/research/vir/index.cfm/make_vch/Honda/model_vch/S2000) or Mazda MX-5 (http://www.autosite.com/content/research/vir/index.cfm/make_vch/Mazda/model_vch/MX-5), but if you've never driven one of those two sports cars, you won't know the difference.
Though we claim that road feel could be better, the steering is sharp and responsive, guiding the sticky 18-inch Goodyears around turns with precision. The suspension is taut but compliant enough that the driver and passenger can emerge from a day in the car without fused vertebrae. Body roll is virtually non-existent, and it takes some serious speed or a bone-headed move to break the tires loose, which means the Saturn is not quite as tossable in the hands of an experienced driver as the Honda or Mazda. But since most drivers aren't “experienced,” this is a good thing. StabiliTrak and OnStar are aboard to save the day or rescue your butt if the Sky does get too far out of shape.
The best thing about driving the Saturn Sky Red Line, however, is the engine. The twin-scroll turbocharger spins up quick, cutting lag times. And with torque peaking way down low at 2,000 rpm and stretching across the powerband to where maximum horsepower is made, the Sky Red Line feels like a rocket. The car just wants to go, go, go – and doesn't force a downshift or two to take advantage of passing opportunities or holes in traffic the way its key competitors do. The Mazda MX-5's measly 170 horsepower is no match for this car, and the high-revving 237-horsepower Honda S2000 is going to work much harder to generate the same kind of speed. Our clear preference is this turbocharged four-cylinder from GM, and when you consider that we averaged 22.3 mpg despite regular dips into the Ecotec's reserve of power, it's an even more impressive piece of work.
http://www.autosite.com/content/shared/articles/templates/index.cfm/article_page_order_int/5/article_id_int/2125
and after i read this, "if you choose the automatic transmission, you may be dismayed by the lack of a manual shifting mode."
i truly was dismayed. the perfect car i had been reading about and waiting for. the one that was affordable, purely for fun & driving with the top down , fast as anything under 40,000$ was ruined.
why in the world would they not use a manual shift mode? someone tell me im wrong please....
heres the review....
Our test drive of the 2007 Saturn Sky (http://www.autosite.com/content/research/vir/index.cfm/make_vch/Saturn/model_vch/Sky) Red Line led from the coast in Santa Barbara, up highway 101, then along the back roads of the Santa Inez Valley, famous for its wine, its scenery, and Michael Jackson's Neverland Ranch. On this route we were able to sample the car in a city environment, on the expressway, and on the twisty two-lane roads where the Sky Red Line is most at home. In most respects, we decided that the Sky Red Line is a capable, engaging, and entertaining sports car.
Let's get the criticism about the driving the car out of the way. The brake pedal feels too stiff, features a limited range of travel, and makes it hard to feed fine-tuned pressure to the discs. Also, if you choose the automatic transmission, you may be dismayed by the lack of a manual shifting mode. Otherwise, the Saturn Sky Red Line is one fun car to drive. Finally, the steering isn't as communicative as we might like, but we like what a BMW (http://www.autosite.com/content/research/makesearch/index.cfm/action/SelectModel2/make_vch/BMW) delivers and few vehicles on the road today manage to match the best from Bavaria.
Though the Sky Red Line's manual transmission could use added refinement and an extra gear, it's a much better piece of engineering than what we've experienced in the 2006 Pontiac Solstice (http://www.autosite.com/content/research/vir/index.cfm/make_vch/Pontiac/model_vch/Solstice). The addition of a torque tube gives the shift action more refinement and better feel while placing the mechanicals farther back in the chassis to improve isolation from the cabin. No, it's not on par with the industry-defining manual gearboxes installed in the Honda S2000 (http://www.autosite.com/content/research/vir/index.cfm/make_vch/Honda/model_vch/S2000) or Mazda MX-5 (http://www.autosite.com/content/research/vir/index.cfm/make_vch/Mazda/model_vch/MX-5), but if you've never driven one of those two sports cars, you won't know the difference.
Though we claim that road feel could be better, the steering is sharp and responsive, guiding the sticky 18-inch Goodyears around turns with precision. The suspension is taut but compliant enough that the driver and passenger can emerge from a day in the car without fused vertebrae. Body roll is virtually non-existent, and it takes some serious speed or a bone-headed move to break the tires loose, which means the Saturn is not quite as tossable in the hands of an experienced driver as the Honda or Mazda. But since most drivers aren't “experienced,” this is a good thing. StabiliTrak and OnStar are aboard to save the day or rescue your butt if the Sky does get too far out of shape.
The best thing about driving the Saturn Sky Red Line, however, is the engine. The twin-scroll turbocharger spins up quick, cutting lag times. And with torque peaking way down low at 2,000 rpm and stretching across the powerband to where maximum horsepower is made, the Sky Red Line feels like a rocket. The car just wants to go, go, go – and doesn't force a downshift or two to take advantage of passing opportunities or holes in traffic the way its key competitors do. The Mazda MX-5's measly 170 horsepower is no match for this car, and the high-revving 237-horsepower Honda S2000 is going to work much harder to generate the same kind of speed. Our clear preference is this turbocharged four-cylinder from GM, and when you consider that we averaged 22.3 mpg despite regular dips into the Ecotec's reserve of power, it's an even more impressive piece of work.
SabreKhan
09-15-2006, 12:35 PM
Why would you buy an auto? Boo for automatic transmissions! Hooray Beer! (Hooray driving responsibly!)
LIONS*LEADER
09-22-2006, 04:46 PM
its nice to be able to have smooth engaging, ever consistant timed shifts all with the flick of your fingers. on top of which its nice to be able to just put in in automatic for traffic or for driving the speed limit.
sierrap615
09-24-2006, 10:27 PM
i am acually amazed how many cars i see at work with manual-autos, granted the only real differance between that and a regular auto is the programming in the computer and a different shifter pattern, but seeing as it is still fairly new techonigy and the majority of the population i know can't drive a manual, i am suprized it is a standard option on many transmissions. besides the only two times i really tested the manual shift mode, i wasn't to impressed(both cars would shift 1-3 if you shifted near the redline in frist)
SabreKhan
10-05-2006, 01:24 PM
The Nissan Skyline I drove in Japan did that. I was pissed! My only option was the auto-stick, and it didn't shift right. I've been anti Skyline, anti-autostick ever since.
holdemjunkie
09-09-2007, 07:46 PM
the sky shouldnt of even been built with a auto trans!
gapp311
05-23-2009, 08:53 PM
the sky shouldnt of even been built with a auto trans!:biggrin:
the autos suck horribly i work @ one of the saturn dealerships and we have about 3 of them and anytime we get a manual it usually is gone in a few days to about a week we've had the 3 autos for at least 6-9 months no one wants them
the autos suck horribly i work @ one of the saturn dealerships and we have about 3 of them and anytime we get a manual it usually is gone in a few days to about a week we've had the 3 autos for at least 6-9 months no one wants them
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