Good makes and models?

First off I'm new to these forums, so bare with me here, haha.
Ok, well here's my issue. I drive a Ford F150 sport, and I'm getting tired of driving a truck like that that's not the quickest, and I'm planning on building a project car sometime soon, and selling the Ford. I'm still a bit new to parts and junk, and only have common knowledge to how all the parts work and names, yet haven't gotten gritty with experiencing the parts or anythign of that nature.. yet. My main concern is that I'm thinkign about just getting some typical car for cheap and completely tweak the hell out of it. I don't want ot get a sports car, for I'm not even 18 yet, and sports car insurance would eat me alive. Can anyone tell me any good models or the most reliable makes that I should go for? I'm not too picky as far as imported cars go, for all that matters is what's under the hood, not the maker. And I'm not going for just a ricer, I'm going for an all out racing car, yet not quite defined as a sports car. I also have some close connections w/ autoshops and real good friends w/ a few mechanics that build their own vehicles piece by piece, so that's a help.

Thanks

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shoot, srry bro. I did'nt quite see just HOW in depth these forums were. I had JUST realized that there were better spots than this right before moved.

*Clears throat*

READ THE FUCKING STICKIES.

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haha ya, I caught that the first time as I was making an edit to move it..

Supercharge your F150. :icon16:
Well...before doing that...what year is it??

haha, I was thinking about doing that for awhile xD. Well, it's a year 2000, os it's still the old model. Extended cab w/ the BA stepup on the side xD. I'm just tired of the truck in general though. It needs a lot of work if I plan on making it a racing truck. And besides, I'd rather be sitting as low ot the groudn as possible. I was just driving an 06 vette the other day, and wow, I fell in love w/ how low it was. It the power that I fell in love with, because I'm used to riding on 500+ hp... just not in MY truck.

Drove around a Z06???

Hah, ya, it was DAMN nice. The oddest thing was the first time I've driven one, I was heading to this one girl's house, and her parents were there and they like.. fell in love w/ me after they heard that I'm bout to head over to University of Texas. So the dad was so thrilled, he wanted to show me his car, and gave me the keys and told me to take him around. Awkward, but you can't turn down opportunities like that xD.

Youre not 18......:swear: :15millionsign:

Eh....I can beat those cars.










Barely.

haha nope, not yet. December I will be. So I'm hoping by then I'll have my car for the most part, and then from there I can get some other parts or cash for more parts. So yup, I'm not 18, so that knocks any sports car choices out of the question. I don't want to get stuck beeing a teenager, a male, adn not yet 25. I'd rather not double my insurance rate. I'm thinking of just sticking w/ some kind of stock car and then doing as much performance work as I can to it. I just can't decide a good model to choose that isn't OVERLY taken, like a Civ, but still something that's cheap, and looks decent. I'll make sure it performs just perfectly. And I guess I have to have plenty of hoodspace if I plan on geting a v8 w/ a supercharger, and later a turbo. But like I've said, I haven't quite seen how big many cars are, so I have no idea what exactly I should look for.

Eh....I can beat those cars.










Barely.


Barely :spit:










Probably only because you cant get traction:evillol:

haha, well judging by your sig, I'd have to say it was a pretty nice race xD.

The big time weight advantage the Z06 has over my car makes it a close race.
Haven't actually raced one heads up yet. I want to though.

Ya, I hear ya. So what's the fastest you've gotten in your trans?

Mr. Luos dont you have a 200shot also?

hmm, os at about what speed can you really start feeling a turbocharger kicking in about, from a dead stop to flooring it? I know it all depends on your cars weight, hp, and torque, but about on average. I'm debating on getting a supercharger or a turbocharger, and if the lag of the turbocharger is too long, and is not worth it, then I'll stick with the supercharger. As I mentioned, I'll probably try buying a really light car, and put as powerful engine as what will fit in there, and am mainly going for a much higher acceleration for the first 100 meters. Any advice?

Mr. Luos dont you have a 200shot also?
Nope. She is all motor.
If you correct the 12.32 for the density altitude that day it is a 10.7x.

Fastest I have had the car is 130-135 MPH. I am not a fan of top speed or even going all that fast. I LOVE acceleration though. I don't take the car over what it traps in the 1/4 mile.

Just get a busa and turbo it. It will be kinda fast. :silly:

my advice to you is first learn how to type. i don't even understand what most of your posts are saying. You need to learn more about cars before you think about buying one. Go and read all the posts in this section and the other racing sections and you will see this has been ask before.

good luck.

University of Texas.

Fuck UT. Cut off them horns. And I'm from Texas, lol.

mainly going for a much higher acceleration for the first 100 meters

Isn't that like...sixty feet give or take? I suck with the metric system beyond literage. Anyways, just take your car and pull out the regular motor, and drop in a Lightning Motor.

haha, sorry about typing badly. I'm actually typing with one hand for now because I have a broken wrist and a cast and all that fun junk. And I've already gone around quite a bit and read up about most of the parts and how they work. Like I know that turbochargers are more often more efficient, mainly because they get powered by the exhaust, so it takes very little power to charge them, just the exhaustion's resistance. And like you Luos, I'm ALL for acceleration. I've just never EXPERIENCED the feel of a turbocharger or supercharger, at least before I did my research about them and knew what they were. And I know superchargers give off more power at lower rpms than turbos, I have no problem there. I've just not experienced or read exactly WHEN the kick of the turbocharger hits. If it really starts hitting much later, then I'd be more interested in a super. I just want the best time possible for 100m (roughly 300 feet or one football field). And I was thinking abotu dropping a lightning engine in my f150, but i'm still leaning more on a new car.

HOOK EM HORNS!! Hah, it's a shame Vince Young isn't going to be putting any more college defenses to shame :'(

theres a lot of possiblities. make sure u go out and sit and drive different cars. sounds to me like u want v8 powah! lol....but just go sit and see how u feel in these different cars. im saying this as you hvae the money to9 get a f150 so ur friends have to have some kind of muscle car.....even if its the v6, the cabin inside is still the same basically.

Pontiac Matrix. :icon16:

Nope. She is all motor.
If you correct the 12.32 for the density altitude that day it is a 10.7x.

would it be that big of a cut?

i trust your words but with the figures she's pulling i just can't see her running 10.7s. especially with a full interior.

no offence, i just can't see it.

would it be that big of a cut?

i trust your words but with the figures she's pulling i just can't see her running 10.7s. especially with a full interior.

no offence, i just can't see it.

Ahh, he's putting about 530 hp or so to the ground in about a 3500 lbs car. So I can see it.

He's got around 600 at the flywheel judging by that. You take 600 hp in something around 2500 lbs and you're way down in the 9s. So yeah, I can see him going high 10s.

I just went by the calculator.

Have I run anywhere near a 10?? No.
Maybe at sea level...but not yet.


Is there power there??? Yes.

Ok, so I think I have some stuff down about my build, but I'm going to need some confirmation. I was thiking abotu getting a Nissan 240SX adn buildign up from there. However, I'm NOT too sure if that's considered a sports car for insurance or not. well anyways, it's RWD and it's extremely lightweight, so that is a plus. I also want to try putting a Chevy 350 small block in there as well, if that'll fit. I know the engine is quite small for it's punch, adn I've heard that the 240SX has quite some room under the hood, so I just want ot know if that will work. Then maybe I'll do some suspension mods and try it from there. Any idea if this plan will work, or if it's goign ot be a sports car afterwards? Thanks

HOOK EM HORNS!! Hah, it's a shame Vince Young isn't going to be putting any more college defenses to shame :'(

so eh... how bout them buckeyes last weekend?

Vince young is overrated, buckeyes defense tore him up last year, the horns were just lucky osu used two qb's.


anyway, i would say mustang of course but thats outa the question with insurance. but im a big mazda fan myself. i say go check some of those out. the mazdaspeed6 seems like a car with really great potential and pretty quick stock- 274hp, AWD. oh yeah, its a 4 door sports sedan so it shouldnt do to bad on insurance.

Vince young is overrated

Umm, I think you need to watch the Rose Bowl again

Saturn SC2---1999

Saturn makes a decent car.

Friend of a friend, used to drive Tow trucks and he said that Saturns were the least towed car for him.

Yeah, because they simply wouldn't start in the morning. They don't break down on the road...they leave you at home.

My girl had a 1999 SC2. 65K miles. She wasn't much of a maintanence person. After 5,500 miles it had less than a quart of oil left in the crankcase.
Burned oil like crazy. She got rid of it with around 80K on it because it was beginning to be one problem after another.

Newer Saturns appear to be MUCH better.

Umm, I think you need to watch the Rose Bowl again

USC has and had a terrible defense. i mean comon they play in the PAC-10. if they played in the SEC or BIG-10 they would not have been undefeated.

haha, I love how this entire convo went STRAIGHT to the whole UT football team xD. Face it, the combination that UT had last year was DAMN NICE, and Vince Young was w/o a doubt one of the best athletes, if not THE best, last year. Props to the Buckeyes for their last game, BUT also keep in thought that they are like 4 of their best secondaries and many other players didn't play because they were retarded and got busted by the popo. Haha.. oh well. ANYWAYS.. I've finally given up, and came up w/ two decisions. Either I'm going to get something like a fox body mustang and stick a v8 in it and never tell the insurance company, OR I'll.... get a sports car. I'm not quite sure how much insurance woudl be for, say a Nissan 300ZX, but cany anyone give me a rough estimate of a price on any typical insurance company? I'm a 17 y/o male w/ no tickets or infractions whatsoever, nor any crashes. Any advice there? Thanks

I'm a 17 y/o male

They're (insurance) gonna screw you on that alone.

haha ya, I really lucked out on coming out a guy and being a teen. But when you siad their insurance will screw me over, what insurance do you mean that by? ANY insurance, or the 300ZX, or jsut ANY sports car?

pretty much any insurance company will give you a free quote, just to to their website and fill in your info, theyll give you roughly what youll be paying.

and this reminds me of this video, check it out, pretty funny auto insurance vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtEp5yc-g3A

haha wow... I can't say I've seen that one yet xD. Good one though, that's pretty much how I'm sounding atm. But ok, I'll try the insurance quotes out. Thanks bro

yeah insurance is going to rape you silly on any sports car. a 4-cyl mustang probably wouldnt be bad though. since thats what theyd think you have....

Penis tax owns us on insurance.


But yeah, my friend has a early 90's 4 banger mustang with a turbo'd GT engine, so going with a LX swapped 5.0L wouldnt be a bad idea

hahaha yaaaa. I'm having a bit of problems looking for a good quote list though. I'm trying out allstate. I saw all of those progressive commercials that were talking about showing rates of them and others...that's BS. Haha, they gave me a rate for a 240SX.. and it was $800/mth... and that's even w/ me saying things like I'm only goign to drive it $4K a year, and it being a '95 car. Hah, but I'll check the allstate quote now.

EDIT: ok, now I'm lost. Allstate said a bit over $3K for a 6 month period, and I tried out my basic insurance on my Ford F150, and it cmae out to roughly $330 a month. I only pay 140 a month... Damn these insurances being SO DAMN confusing >.<

EDIT AGAIN: Ok, maybe it was just the insurance, because I just did a FarmersInsurance stand (my insurance, yet I wasn't sure about doing it or not because you must live in certain places, and I live in Texas), and it just gave me a price nearly exact to what I'm paying so. I guess it was just the insurance..

Yeah, because they simply wouldn't start in the morning. They don't break down on the road...they leave you at home.

My girl had a 1999 SC2. 65K miles. She wasn't much of a maintanence person. After 5,500 miles it had less than a quart of oil left in the crankcase.
Burned oil like crazy. She got rid of it with around 80K on it because it was beginning to be one problem after another.

Newer Saturns appear to be MUCH better.

I have a 95 SL2 with over 200k and my friend has an SW2 around 140k, neither of which has given us problems. The worst thing that has happened was the transmission finally went about 5k ago. However I wouldn't suggest one considering I want another car very badly. I do like the newer saturns tho, especially the Sky.

Ok, I'm really thinking about getting the Nissan 300ZX. While checking ot my insurance company (Famers Insurance) and doign a quick quote, it cmae out w/ my current insurance being $160 and the insurance for a 1990 300ZX came out as $95 for a 2+2 and $110 for a turbo/coupe. In fact, if that is proportionate like that, I can almost PROMISE that I'm getting that car xD. I'm just kind of wondering what the 2+2 and the turbo mean. I mean, I know that one version of the '90 can have twin turbos, while the other version has 4 seats. I'm actualyl a bit in debate wheter I should get the twinturbos or 4 seats, but I'll see. Any feedback or comments on this? I'm mainly just curious as to what the turbo implies, whether it's just turbocharged or twin turbo, or what the 2+2 means. Thanks

3 types of stock Z32 300zx's(without counting the T-top and convertible versions)

300ZX N/A - two seats and non-turbo
300ZX 2+2 - 2 front seats and 2 back seats, non -turbo
300ZX Turbo - Twin Turbo'ed and only come in 2 seater form

In your position I'd get the 2 seater non-turbo
1. two seaters are way hotter than 4 seater
2. the 2+2's back seat is absolutely worthless, except for putting ur backback in, non of ur friens will fit unless they are little people
3. insurance
4.way cheaper and easier to find

haha, ya, I know the insurance is definately cheaper. But it still sounds pretty nice w/ twinturbos xD. I doubt I'll get the 4 seater, and will prolly get the N/A one like you mentioned. But If I find a cheap twinturbo somewhere.. I'm DEFINATELY going to jump on the opportunity xD. The insurance is still $50 cheaper than my truck. That's so BA! So I've heard that the twin turbo one has backwheel steering as well? Like, as it passes 27 or so mph, the back wheels steer. Is this right? Or is that a later year model? Thanks

all i got to say is dont put yourself in debt, you got a pretty damn good truck as it is... unless you broke it somehow. and you know if you have 4WD then you could get some nice off roading tires and go mudding, that would be fun to im sure. sometimes having a truck is nice, especially a good truck like that. not discouraging you, just saying that it might not be worth going way into debt for a sports car when you have decent ride already.

haha, ya I hear what you're saying. I still do like my truck quite a bit, but I just want that quickness and exhilaration. Hah, I've had my many trips mudding in it as wel. Hah, but you see, I live in Texas, and it's like every other one of my friends have illegal lifts on their trucks, nda the other half have all out 4WD power hungry trucks. And as far as being in debt is concerned.. Ihave $3K saved up and my truck is entirely payed off for. Not to mention I have some connections with dirt cheap cars, and I know a friend has conneciton to a 300ZX turbo, though I'm not sure what year, and it's in perfect condition @ 48K miles on it. He's will ing to give $2K for it. Then I'll probably spend a bit more money on restoring anything needed, mayeb a body kit or some more power, and I'll still have leftover cash. Also, the insurance is actually quite cheaper than my F150.. mainly beacuse it's a 1990 car. Also, payign gas will get even easier w/ a smaller car, even if more power is spit out, then my truck. Overall if do lose some money, it won't be much at all.