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Mclaren vs: Supra


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Porsche
02-15-2001, 03:59 PM
Okay I know it was a post at CF that somebody had made but I didn't have my high speed modem yet and I was wondering if anybody had a link :)

JD@af
02-23-2001, 02:34 AM
We can always start our own thread here.

Okay, so I'm a huge Supra fan. And there are very few cars on earth that I would take over a Supra. But come on!! A Supra versus a McLaren?? Keeping in mind that new, the McLaren costs about 30 times as much as the Toyota, I have to take the F1 as the hands-down, no-brainer choice.

Racer 20
02-23-2001, 02:56 AM
McLaren F1.

Haven't you seen the movie of it killing the VeilSide Supra??? Sex on whells!! :D

Seb928S@af
02-23-2001, 12:11 PM
McLaren F1. I love that BMW V12. :)

enzo@af
02-23-2001, 02:41 PM
Yeah, that video is awesome! It spanks that supra! Kills it! The McLaren is such a completely obvious choice.

However, if you want to modify it and have some fun tweaking it, the Supra is such a great choice, out of any car.

But, the F1 is just, well, pure sux, and complete perfection.

ThunderFish911
02-23-2001, 04:13 PM
I prefer to take a Supra and hop it up with the several hundred thousand dollars left in profits from not taking that McLaren. Oh, yead, I'd rip off the shit-ugly body kit, too.

MBTN
02-23-2001, 05:48 PM
There is no need to mod the McLaren. Putting anything like twin-turbos would probably put fractures in your bones while accelerating.

Porsche
02-28-2001, 04:39 PM
LOL, I was actually asking where the video was, not who would win. :cool:

VTEC V6
03-24-2001, 06:26 PM
after seeing that 800-somethin rwhp supra dyno test
i think i would take the supra mod it to hell and it would still be a more than half a million cheaper
and a hell of a lot faster

and i'd actually survive in a crash

enzo@af
03-25-2001, 04:47 AM
Originally posted by VTEC V6
after seeing that 800-somethin rwhp supra dyno test
i think i would take the supra mod it to hell and it would still be a more than half a million cheaper
and a hell of a lot faster


Apparantly you haven't seen the video...The guy in the McLaren KILLS the Veilside Supra...and laughs while he does it.

Besides...any joe schmoe can get a supra. But, a Mclaren F freakin' 1! C'mon.

VTEC V6
03-25-2001, 11:08 AM
Originally posted by enzo@af

Besides...any joe schmoe can get a supra. But, a Mclaren F freakin' 1! C'mon.



tru about it being a once in a lifetime chance to see it!
but i would still go for a supra unless i was super rich and could afford it easily!

Porsche
04-06-2001, 10:21 PM
I still need the video!!!!!

angldrkns9
04-06-2001, 10:33 PM
can anybody post this video or have a link? i wanna see this video.

Porsche
04-07-2001, 12:16 PM
I can help ya. I don't know how to post links and such (See how incompetant I am) but here's what to do.

1. Go to Google.com and search Mclaren F1 vs: Supra
2. After the results turn up click on the one that says "Videocraz" with the subtitle "Mclaren F1 vs: Supra" there's about 15 godd movies there, Including a Supra doing 328 km/h!

enzo@af
04-08-2001, 09:04 PM
Click Here (http://members.nbci.com/videocraz/supra_vs_mclaren_f1.avi) for the video.

JD@af
04-09-2001, 12:54 PM
Ohhh... (that hurts)

Much as I love the Supra, this video is just sad.....

Porsche
04-09-2001, 04:38 PM
Your better than me at this Enzo.

Chris
04-11-2001, 10:49 AM
McLaren, c'mon. It has 50K worth of gold on the engine because it dissipates heat well. The muffler is 18K.
TT's would be cool, but it struggles for grip already, so accelleration wouldn't change much, but top speed would go up, as would acceleration over 130mph (I read an article on a LM, and it struggled for grip at 100mph!)

You can mod things, but they still won't touch a McLaren!!!:D

Porsche
04-11-2001, 01:15 PM
For good reason:

1. It is powerful and fast enough already.
2. Who will make the aftermarket parts
3. I doubt there is anything better than the parts they use. Like the 18k muffler.
4. There's only 98 left, so why would you mod it and make it different from original. There pure race cars anyways, there ain't much you can do to make it better. It's kinda like putting Superman on Steroids.

Chris
04-11-2001, 04:13 PM
well said:)

S Brake
06-22-2001, 10:25 PM
Is there any other way to get that video? i dld it and when i went to play it, there was an error so i could only hear the video, no pictures. i wanna see it!!!!!!

blazedone
07-02-2001, 06:42 PM
If i pay a million dollors for a car it better be able to walk a Supra.

Chris
07-14-2001, 11:38 AM
Try right clicking and click save as. If that doesnt work, try looking on google.

gang$tarr
07-27-2001, 12:13 AM
if it was a reeeeeeeaaaaaalllllllllyyyyy heavily modded supra, it is possible for it to be better than a mclaren

hermunn123
07-27-2001, 12:36 AM
shouldn't this thread be closed???? they said not to test stupid things like a geo metro versus a viper. this is the same thing.... a very very very very very heavily modded supra could beat a mclaren, but with the money it would take to mod it you could probably buy a couple mclarens...

hermunn123
07-27-2001, 01:17 AM
AAAARRRRGGGG!!!! i just downloaded that Mclaren vs. supra movie on my freakin slow computer. it took forever and when it finally completed i cant watch it cuz i dont have the latest quicktime!!! they come out with a new version every four freakin days!!! now its gonna take forever to download all the new crap i need!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

gang$tarr
07-27-2001, 01:35 AM
i juss clicked on it and it automatically loaded up in windows media player

Nickkzx
07-27-2001, 01:46 AM
first of all, a TOYOTA SUPRA COULD WORK A MCLAREN ANY DAY FOR THE COST

List 1,000,000:
Car, 50,000
Rebuilt, blue printed and polished motor 20,000
large turbos w/intercoolers 10,000
alcohol cooling system 5,000
tires and rims to handle power and grip 5,000
passing up a bmw (big money waster) in your TOYOTA and not having spent any where near 1,000,000: priceless

for some things BMW sucks and for other things, modified japanese cars are there to kick ass for less money

S Brake
07-27-2001, 01:27 PM
HA HA! you're funny














:flipa: :flipa: :flipa: :finger: :finger: :finger: :smoka: :smoka: :smoka:

Chris
07-27-2001, 07:27 PM
I believe the Supra was heavily modded, thats why it went so fast. I think it had over 700 hp, mybe 900. No matter, the McLaren would spank it in any category, anytime.:cool:

Racer 20
07-27-2001, 11:01 PM
This is lame. rotflmao... :p The Supra has to be over worked to race car like preformance just to compete with the F1, which was made for 1/4 miles, track days etc. Those are about as stressful as a morning jog to the F1. To go at those insain speeds you have to mod the Supra to the point that's it's basicaly a race car, which won't really last long. Where as the McLaren F1 will last "forever." ;) Plus, what's the big deal, Corvettes and Ferraris can be tuned to give McLaren F1 preformace. Why the Supra? :rolleyes: lol It's like compairing a guy that works out and is in great shape etc. to a US Navy Seal. The poor body builder is strong but his endurance and preformance under pressure can't be matched by a trained pro who endured "Hell Week" at training. One guy can lift 300lbs. but the other can too, not to mention he knows how to kill a person with out a weapon, under 10 seconds, in over 20 ways and situations. More horsepower was the key to all design flaws in Enzo Ferrari's day but not in ours. Take that moded Supra and the F1 to a track like Sears Point. What car will you bet your money on? A car great car or a great car made to shave 10 seconds off your lap time each time you rev it's V12 down the straightaways?

gang$tarr
07-27-2001, 11:49 PM
that's retarded, yes you would mod it to be a race car, just like the mclaren is a race car. just the mclaren was modded in the factory while the supra is done by the owner. Yes you could mod a Ferrari to be mclaren like but we're saying you could do it to a Supra for far less.

and if there was a $750,000 modded supra, that's only 3/4 of the price of the mclaren, then i would put my money on the supra, without a thought about the mclaren

but then again that's just my opinion

hermunn123
07-27-2001, 11:59 PM
Racer 20...well said. everything in there is true

Chris
07-29-2001, 06:07 PM
When a car is engineered from the ground-up to be the ultimate, it will always be better than a car that was meant to be good, then changed. Thats a fact.

Porsche
07-29-2001, 08:54 PM
T'was a 900Bhp Veilside supra it was.

S Brake
07-29-2001, 11:05 PM
Twas! Did you guys see the newest Jackass on MTV? they were in this Gumball race from england to russia to england again, they had the sweetest cars! it was the best!

VTEC V6
07-29-2001, 11:24 PM
in a car that u would drive for years and expect reliability from the Mclaren would be the choice cause it has a n\a V12 no stress on the motor plus its all stock

now with the Supra u have twin turbos on the V6 which is half the size putting a lot of stress on it so it wont last as long but a modified Supra can and will beat a McLaren F1

some of u guys talk like it takes millions of Dollars to make a Supra as fast or faster than a Mclaren, a McLaren cost a mil the supra cost probably 1/10 that modified to the max, some can run 8's at the track
what do McLarens run?

hermunn123
07-30-2001, 12:25 AM
a bone stock F1 runs 11.1. modify any car and it will run the 1/4 mile in 9 seconds. what stock car is going to run 11 second runs? and anyways, who would want a car that can only go fast in a straight line. i haven't seen that F1 vs. supra vid(POS computer) but i would very confindently say that the F1 would annihilate the supra. i dont know why everybody thinks that a car's 1/4 mile time shows its performance. drag racing is boring and it requires the least amount of skill. now i know not just anyone can go run a fast time in one of those drag racers, but i do think it would be easier, much, easier than driving in ALMS, heck, even NASCAR. so anyways, 1/4 mile time means jack.

Nickkzx
07-30-2001, 01:07 AM
There are a few things you should still know though. For one us kids only can do so much. Race tracks are usually hours from where we live and dragging illegally on the streets is about all we can do....so we do that. Yeah of course any car can be made faster then a Mclaren and that was the point. And if you can make a 40,000 sports car faster then a 1,000,000 sports car, I am sure you can make it handle better also. So the point of that topic was worthless, your more or less comparing cars that are equal butt bone stock such as a TT 300zx and a TT Supra because obviously that discussion was pointless =)

Racer 20
07-30-2001, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by VTEC V6

now with the Supra u have twin turbos on the V6 which is half the size putting a lot of stress on it so it wont last as long but a modified Supra can and will beat a McLaren F1


The Supra is an INLINE 6. You should be burned for mistaking an i6 and a V6.

Next, we all so the video, the McLaren own. Only the JGTC Supras are faster because THEY ARE RACING CARS!!!!!!

God, you kids think everything you see in Fast and Furious is for real. :rolleyes: It doesn't have the displacment!!!!! A $167k Viper does the quarter mile at 9.99 right under ten seconds. The twin turbos enhance the already powerful 7990cc V10. The 3 liter inline 6 with have to have a lot of upgrades to make that kind of thrust, inturn all of those upgrades become downgrades because it's just a track car then. You can use the F1 every day for crying out loud. What's that? That's what your saying? It'll what? It'll be less reliable than an F1? NOOOOO???? Really???



AND another thing! The Stupra has waYyyyyyyyayYYYYAYyya to much whell spin!

hermunn123
07-30-2001, 12:45 PM
oh come on Nickkzx. you don't have any tracks in southern california?? not even a dragstrip?? i seriously doubt that you don't have any of those near you. just yesterday i went to an autocross event. they have an autox at least once a month, you could join one of those. don't tell me there's nowhere to go so you just race in downtown LA with no traffic or cops(TFATF), that's just retarded. if you really wanted to race on a real track you wouldnt mind taking the occasional trip to the nearest track, but you're obviously one of those guys who just wants to street race which is IMO gay.

Nickkzx
07-30-2001, 05:30 PM
trust me I have friends with 20k put into engines, they run cars in 11 seconds with twin turbo motors. My friend has a Honda Accord running 13's with 4 grand into the engine....you can make any car just as fast or faster and just as reliable or even more then a Mclaren....its just a car designed for a rich guy with a small dick and no mechanical knowledge to purchase because he can drive it, and make up for what he doesnt have =)

Porsche
08-01-2001, 05:50 PM
You saying that rice is better than a Mclaren F1? It takes skills to use one mos t people know that and it was a Road Race Car not a Super Expensive Exotic to be driven by Small-Dicked Richguys, your paying for the performance and the right to the Wrold's fastest production car. My point is, everyone who owns a Mclaren F1 is not your stereotypical loner.

Racer 20; You've heard of the Venom 800 Twin Turbo too?

hermunn123
08-01-2001, 07:59 PM
venom 800 TT... 833 horsepower. 725 hp at the rear wheels. does 0-60 in 2.7 seconds!! isn't that crazy!!! those turbos kick in reeeal fast!!

VTEC V6
08-01-2001, 10:50 PM
found that dyno i was talkin about

Supra with
874hp at the rear wheels and 796lb/ft of torque at the wheels

heres the link

http://www.mkiv.com/videoarchive/avi-mpg/bryce_dyno_t2k.zip

think about the 0-60 of this beast :eek: :eek:

S Brake
08-01-2001, 10:54 PM
the henessey 800TT venom does 0-60 in 2.43 seconds, not 2.7

hermunn123
08-01-2001, 11:19 PM
sorry...

that supra is just plain retarded.

gang$tarr
08-01-2001, 11:28 PM
Originally posted by Porsche

You saying that rice is better than a Mclaren F1?


I can't stand it when people fuckin misuse the term rice! fuck!! get it right....... Rice is a car that looks fast but isn't fast. A 9 second Supra, rice! you're a dumbass, not every import car is rice you know? :angryfire

VTEC V6
08-01-2001, 11:47 PM
Originally posted by hermunn123
sorry...

that supra is just plain retarded.

good reasoning u got there :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

atleast state why u think its retarded?
u seem like ur a bit bitter after seeing the supra dyno at having 874 rwhp

YogsVR4
08-01-2001, 11:53 PM
Its funny how a person owns a car thats out of your price range and suddenly that means they have a small dick.

Dont be jelous of someone elses fortune. I think its a waste of energy.

Nickkzx
08-02-2001, 01:20 AM
I dont have anything to be jealous of, but if you have to spend that much on a car. I know I couldnt afford that, but I can buy a fast fkn car....the point of that, i dunno, I will see when i get one.

Jay!
08-02-2001, 01:30 AM
Originally posted by YogsVR4
Dont be jelous of someone elses fortune. I think its a waste of energy.

Yeah, spend that energy stealing that person's fortune.

Porsche
08-02-2001, 05:07 PM
Sorry Gan$tarr, It was my understanding that "Rice" was any Japanese car that has undergone modifications. BTW, you say your mom has a 540i, what colour is it?

gang$tarr
08-02-2001, 07:02 PM
my mom doesn't have a 540i.... she has an X5

she had a 740iL before the X5

Porsche
08-04-2001, 10:59 PM
Oh, I thought she had a 540i.Unrelated, do like your 328i? I see your talking lots about the E46 M3, maybe you should ask for that at 17.

gang$tarr
08-05-2001, 01:22 AM
yeah right, i don't think my parents would buy me an M3, it's too much, they wouldn't buy me a car over $50,000...... i've been thinking of selling the 328ci and getting a supraTT but the bimmer was a birthday present so i guess i can't

Porsche
08-05-2001, 10:21 AM
hehe, that would be cooler.

lOOkatme
08-06-2001, 02:34 PM
my grandma bought my prelude...but she doesn't know I have lowered it added strut bars with intake header exhaust and direct port NOS...HEHE:D

hakka
08-06-2001, 03:20 PM
what are your ETs lookatme? HP? Just wondering. Oh, yeah, I would much rather the McLaren over a heavily modded Supra, not just because of its performance, but also because of its rarity.

hakka
08-06-2001, 03:25 PM
oh, forgot. Did anyone else see the ETs on the video? The McLaren ran an 11.04, with the supra running a 12.7...hmmm...looks like either it wasn't that heavily modded, or it really was the Veilside with major traction problems.

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