Traction Control
replicant_008
08-26-2002, 07:45 PM
@#$%ing rental car...
I get a rental to drive the Southern Lakes Ski Fields and order a manual.
Instead I get an upgrade to a bigger car which is automatic and has @#$%ing traction control which I can't turn off.
Holden even go to the trouble of numbering the fuses instead of labelling them and no explanation in the manual so I can't disarm it by removing the fuse.
Traction Control is useful but it's about as useful as tits on a bull when it comes to driving up TC especially when I have to slap chains on the sucker to get it up the very steep hill...
I get a rental to drive the Southern Lakes Ski Fields and order a manual.
Instead I get an upgrade to a bigger car which is automatic and has @#$%ing traction control which I can't turn off.
Holden even go to the trouble of numbering the fuses instead of labelling them and no explanation in the manual so I can't disarm it by removing the fuse.
Traction Control is useful but it's about as useful as tits on a bull when it comes to driving up TC especially when I have to slap chains on the sucker to get it up the very steep hill...
Moppie
08-28-2002, 05:07 AM
All the NZ spec Mondeos allow you to turn the traction control off. :D
I know several ppl who have them as company cars.
I know several ppl who have them as company cars.
Ssom
08-28-2002, 05:42 AM
Originally posted by Moppie
All the NZ spec Mondeos allow you to turn the traction control off. :D
I know several ppl who have them as company cars.
Dude he's talking about his Holden Rental Car.......Is it a Vectra or Commodore :confused:
All the NZ spec Mondeos allow you to turn the traction control off. :D
I know several ppl who have them as company cars.
Dude he's talking about his Holden Rental Car.......Is it a Vectra or Commodore :confused:
TerminalVelocity
08-28-2002, 06:56 AM
:confused:
i'm american
I say my car go vroooom, not as complicated as this...me go sleep now :D
i'm american
I say my car go vroooom, not as complicated as this...me go sleep now :D
Moppie
08-28-2002, 09:25 AM
Originally posted by Moss1O6GTi
Dude he's talking about his Holden Rental Car.......Is it a Vectra or Commodore :confused:
dont mind me, Im just stumbling blindly through..............
Dude he's talking about his Holden Rental Car.......Is it a Vectra or Commodore :confused:
dont mind me, Im just stumbling blindly through..............
replicant_008
08-28-2002, 05:22 PM
The Mondeo ST's ESP and TC Switch is on the bottom right of the centre console. I know where it is - I've turned off the TC before... Switching it off in this case won't make a lick of difference... to my @#$%ing rental car...
Moss is right... It was the rental car a @#$%ing pensioner blue Vectra Automatic...
And it is so bloody annoying... go around the hairpin, accelerate out, go across the corrugations in the road, car bounces, TC goes on... no power going uphill...car slows down... Gravel Truck following wants to push me off the hill...
It all used to be so $%^inng simple... now I end up slowing down going uphill not because I don't have enough torque but because some GM safety bozo hasn't driven on a mountain dirt road - think PIKES PEAK PEOPLE just more DANGEROUS!!!
NNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
I'd bash the steering wheel but the safety nazi's at GM would programme the airbag to go off!!! And then I'd be really rooted...
And don't get me started on the chains...
Moss is right... It was the rental car a @#$%ing pensioner blue Vectra Automatic...
And it is so bloody annoying... go around the hairpin, accelerate out, go across the corrugations in the road, car bounces, TC goes on... no power going uphill...car slows down... Gravel Truck following wants to push me off the hill...
It all used to be so $%^inng simple... now I end up slowing down going uphill not because I don't have enough torque but because some GM safety bozo hasn't driven on a mountain dirt road - think PIKES PEAK PEOPLE just more DANGEROUS!!!
NNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
I'd bash the steering wheel but the safety nazi's at GM would programme the airbag to go off!!! And then I'd be really rooted...
And don't get me started on the chains...
Ssom
08-29-2002, 02:36 AM
Originally posted by replicant_008
The Mondeo ST's ESP and TC Switch is on the bottom right of the centre console. I know where it is - I've turned off the TC before... Switching it off in this case won't make a lick of difference... to my @#$%ing rental car...
Moss is right... It was the rental car a @#$%ing pensioner blue Vectra Automatic...
And it is so bloody annoying... go around the hairpin, accelerate out, go across the corrugations in the road, car bounces, TC goes on... no power going uphill...car slows down... Gravel Truck following wants to push me off the hill...
It all used to be so $%^inng simple... now I end up slowing down going uphill not because I don't have enough torque but because some GM safety bozo hasn't driven on a mountain dirt road - think PIKES PEAK PEOPLE just more DANGEROUS!!!
NNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
I'd bash the steering wheel but the safety nazi's at GM would programme the airbag to go off!!! And then I'd be really rooted...
And don't get me started on the chains...
Vectra :mad: GM engineers are just all around clumsy.
Where is the Mondeo??? :confused:
The Mondeo ST's ESP and TC Switch is on the bottom right of the centre console. I know where it is - I've turned off the TC before... Switching it off in this case won't make a lick of difference... to my @#$%ing rental car...
Moss is right... It was the rental car a @#$%ing pensioner blue Vectra Automatic...
And it is so bloody annoying... go around the hairpin, accelerate out, go across the corrugations in the road, car bounces, TC goes on... no power going uphill...car slows down... Gravel Truck following wants to push me off the hill...
It all used to be so $%^inng simple... now I end up slowing down going uphill not because I don't have enough torque but because some GM safety bozo hasn't driven on a mountain dirt road - think PIKES PEAK PEOPLE just more DANGEROUS!!!
NNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
I'd bash the steering wheel but the safety nazi's at GM would programme the airbag to go off!!! And then I'd be really rooted...
And don't get me started on the chains...
Vectra :mad: GM engineers are just all around clumsy.
Where is the Mondeo??? :confused:
Jay!
08-29-2002, 02:59 AM
Try driving up to 20mph with the handbrake set to the first notch ('on' but only marginal braking). I've heard on some cars that will turn off the TC...
Just a shot in the dark, I guess. ;) What could it hurt...?
Just a shot in the dark, I guess. ;) What could it hurt...?
replicant_008
08-29-2002, 05:54 PM
The Mondeo is where it should be.. under a car cover in my carport in Auckland.
Avis do a deal every year (I should know I use it every year) called SNOWDRIVE where you pick up a Honda Civic at ZQN (Queenstown Airport), pay about $69.00 per day with unlimited kilometres and it comes with lift pass to either Treble Cone or Cardrona every day you have the car. A lift pass is about $68 so I look at it as a $1 per day car. I think it was another $39 for the use of the chains and roof racks for the entire trip.
Saves the wear and tear of driving all the way down, catching the #$%^ing interislander (don't get me started on that service), allows me to indulge in driving practices not normally associated with mechanical sympathy on mountainous unsealed roads (apart from the unwanted intrusion of the @#$%ing Vectra's TC) and saves a lot of time as I can fly down to Queenstown on airpoints.
One other thing having a rental down there has another couple of benefits - I don't get the interior of the Mondeo filthy from skis, boots, muck, two dozen Red Bull and Powerade bottles, protein bar wrappers and I can pick up at least two cute looking chicks needing a hitch up the hill and also down the hill every day...
And I can realistically portray my part-time ski bum persona...
Avis do a deal every year (I should know I use it every year) called SNOWDRIVE where you pick up a Honda Civic at ZQN (Queenstown Airport), pay about $69.00 per day with unlimited kilometres and it comes with lift pass to either Treble Cone or Cardrona every day you have the car. A lift pass is about $68 so I look at it as a $1 per day car. I think it was another $39 for the use of the chains and roof racks for the entire trip.
Saves the wear and tear of driving all the way down, catching the #$%^ing interislander (don't get me started on that service), allows me to indulge in driving practices not normally associated with mechanical sympathy on mountainous unsealed roads (apart from the unwanted intrusion of the @#$%ing Vectra's TC) and saves a lot of time as I can fly down to Queenstown on airpoints.
One other thing having a rental down there has another couple of benefits - I don't get the interior of the Mondeo filthy from skis, boots, muck, two dozen Red Bull and Powerade bottles, protein bar wrappers and I can pick up at least two cute looking chicks needing a hitch up the hill and also down the hill every day...
And I can realistically portray my part-time ski bum persona...
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