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streetracer780
08-26-2002, 07:02 PM
I want to here some racing talk so lets here your best kill story.

Mine had to be a couple of months ago. I was up against a 1986 RX-7. It had been smoking guys all night and I didn't think I even had a chance. I knew he had a turbo in there and I could see that he had an exhaust but that was pretty much all I could see. So he asked if I wanted to race just for fun no money or anything. I said sure why not. So we pulled up, the hands dropped and we both hit it. I got a real good take off and he spun the rear wheels pretty good. I was ahead and he was coming up fast. I upshifted and stayed in the lead. We hit the finish in a good 12 or 13 seconds. I barley beat him. He was quite impressed with my little old Mitsu. He asked what I was running. I smilied and said now why would I tell you that? We both laughed. Then he asked if I wanted a beer I said sure and we both sat thier and talked and watched the rest of the races. I still can't believe I beat the guy who killed the street every friday.

-The Stig-
08-26-2002, 07:40 PM
thats awesome, what kinda Mitsu you driving?
(if you want to post mods feel free, im just curious as to the car itself)

I dont race much, never did (its called being broke with no gas money haha) so i dipped around with my friends cars.

My good Buddy, who has a 70 Camaro with a 355 which is needless to say very very strong. His basic set up is 355ci, Holley 750 Double Pump, Airgap Manifold, MSD, Hurst quarterstick, Turbo 350, at the time Flowmasters ,3.73 posi and i think they're 245R60/15 Goodyears out back.

So one day me and him are cruisin So. Cal. and we see a Viper GTS cruise by and he yells out "VIPERS SUCK!" just to get his attention. Well it did, the guy flipped us the bird and waited for us down the street while we caught up. We pull up next to him and he's talkin smack like how our bucket cant do what his mopar can (btw my friends camaro is clean as hell!). So we told him to shut his yapper and let the cars do the talking. he revs some low revs nothing impressive, my buddy drowns him out with the Flowmasters.

Light goes green, fool dumps the clutch and doesnt hook up all the best, we on the other hand staged up beautifully and shot off like a horny rabbit. we took it all the way to about 95ish, all the while the viper was about half a car length behind if that? wasnt far behind. His top end was far better than ours so we shut it down before he got the better of us... and before the race got too dangerous.

I think thats the best kill i've ever witnessed. or been apart off.

What did the viper driver have to say? let me show you :finger4:

haha our bucket showed him a thing. if he would of hooked up a bit better and maybe not bogged as bad he would of most likely taken us. i mean he does after all have 460hp or so... and it is a Viper for crying out loud.

Ill be sure to post stories of my own... once the Nova is back on the road.

street_racer_00
08-26-2002, 07:56 PM
Well my 2 part kill story is like this. My friend had just aquired a '92 acura integra...big deal right? Well it had a B-16a J1 japanese-spec motor swap in it, along with the tranny and cams from a type-R. He also had a limited slip differential. Plus the other normal mods that rice burners have (intake, exhaust). He thought he could beat me, and I thought he was going to as well. He wanted to race me for 200 bucks but I said HELL NO! So we decide to go out to a straight stretch of road to see who wins. The first time we go he sets his shift light at 7,000 rpm (the redline for his car is 8,700), because he thinks he can take me. So we go, and I end up absolutely killing him, by about 4 or 5 lengths. He's pissed off, and he eggs me on to race back. He sets his shift light all the way to the 8700 rpm rev limit, and we line up. We take off and I get about a 3/4 length jump on him, we are still going and I'm about to hold the gap until he hits 3rd gear, and then he starts to gradually pull up on me. He pulls and pulls until I look over and I can see the hood of his car at my driver's side door. Luckily the finish line comes, and I win by about 1/2 a car:D . He gets out of the car and says "you should have accepted my bet, fucker!" Then we laugh and and shake hands. This was the closest race I have ever had to this day.

Polygon
08-26-2002, 08:02 PM
There won't be any from me for a while. I could tell you some of my old ones that I never listed on here.

street_racer_00
08-26-2002, 08:10 PM
Originally posted by RedNeck383
So one day me and him are cruisin So. Cal. and we see a Viper GTS cruise by and he yells out "VIPERS SUCK!" just to get his attention.
:hehehe: That's hilarious!

Polygon
08-26-2002, 08:14 PM
Needless to say, that man shouldn't be driving a Viper. He should get a Geo.

streetracer780
08-26-2002, 08:16 PM
Ok I drive a 97 Mitsu Eclipse Spyder.

I have a few mods on it:

Dynomax Exhaust
Greddy Headers
Injen Intake
Neuspeed Chip

Also a few other thing like plugs, air filter, and other stuff I can't remeber off the top off my head. It's be a long long day.

As for stylin I have:
Sparco Torin Seats
Blue headlight
Chrome Rims

I'm going to put a body kit on it soon I hope.

Layla's Keeper
08-26-2002, 09:49 PM
A kill last night, my teammate had. Yoda like I am speaking. Smack myself I will. *smack* I'm better now.

My team mate Derek just bought a SOHC 240SX (S13) and hasn't been more proud of himself since the first time he was with a woman. Needless to say, the SR20DET is in the mail. But anyways, he wanted to show me just how well he'd adjusted to the RWD chassis and the added length of the 240SX over his old Storm. (long story, but a fun one) So we went out to our favorite bit of twisty country road in Ohio, Nickel Plate Diagonal. It's the closest thing to Catalunya as you can get in North East Ohio. So, we were jetting down NP, feeling pretty good about ourselves, we had the Initial D soundtrack (disc 1) in the player, it was sweet. All of a sudden, there's a ton of honking behind us. We look back and see this black '78 Camaro behind us, with a load of teenagers in it and some cam lope to boot. This Camaro zips around us and the passenger flips us the bird, shouting "Fucking Ricer!" which is unfair, considering it's a frickin' stock 240SX. We even took off the hubcaps so there's just bare steelies on it. Derek grabs 3rd gear and punches it (he's a bit of a hot head). The 240 squatted hard on its rear tires as he kicked up through the gearbox. We came back up on the Camaro pretty fast, for a minute I thought Derek was going to ram them as we came upon a tight right corner.
Bam! Derek heel-toed down to 2nd and swung the rear end around. The 240 was totally sideways as Derek drifted the thing around the corner. It shocked the hell out of me since he'd only had it for about three or four days at that point. He lifted off the throttle as soon as the nose was pointed inside the Camaro's line. When he did, the rear tires hooked back up and the car lunged forward. Derek went back up to fourth as we drew up alongside the Camaro just as we neared a left hand corner. The Camaro braked hard and early, giving Derek the chance he wanted. Again, he heel-toed down, spiking the engine's revs hard, and swung the tail wide into yet another fluid drift. We sped off, leaving one confused and probably frightened Camaro behind us.
We didn't see the Camaro's lights again that night, and we continued making runs down NP until about 2am. As soon as we turned for home, I asked Derek about the Camaro incident, if he'd thought for a moment that he wouldn't catch the Camaro. He just kind of stared at me for a moment, then nodded and smiled.
"Yeah, I probably wouldn't have caught him if I'd thought about it. But that's not what the series says, right? It just says to rage your dream."

Sometimes, I guess, people surprise you. That night, Derek surprised me.

TerminalVelocity
08-27-2002, 07:20 AM
Geo killing a honda (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t61483.html) :bandit:

-The Stig-
08-28-2002, 12:50 AM
drifting... whats the big deal? i've done it, its fun. But for practical applications its not the best. besides the point you can get into a lot of trouble in a heartbeat (ie over doing it and spinning out).

dont get me wrong, for the intimidation factor of seeing a car more or less slide through a turn, thats pretty intimidating! But i just fail to see Le Mans race cars drifting through every turn.

please dont think this is a flame, if i was mr. camaro guy i'd be scared as hell to see some car pitchin it sideways under its own power. the guy probably had to stop and change his diapers.

I just dont see why everybody is so hot to trot over drifting the car, when in fact you can carry more speed through a corner by just hitting the Apex*. Yes, i know its giggles of fun... but i'd be more intent on trying to get the car to be as stable as possible, while being as quick as possible. Much like how i am on my Yamaha, you slide a bike and you're going to either crash, or die. whichever comes first.** (R1-Rider will know what im talking about)

Lets face it, 99.9% of us are NOT Professional Drivers, and drifting a car on public roads is just asking for trouble. Sorry to sound like a Grandpa... but sometimes we need to hear that Public Safety Announcement crap. So now that you've heard the warnings, you're going to go out and delibritly drift your car arent you? Yes you are. :)

* Rally cars are the exception, they're on dirt they NEED to drift. Or else some kid on a BMX will pass them up on the dirt roads.

** Professional Motorcycle racers drift bikes on a regular basis, that means both wheels sliding across the pavement but they still aim for the Apex. Oh theres that word again: Professional. (once again R1-Rider will know what im talking about)


Happy Drifting! Keep it within your own Limits... or at least on your side of the road, i dont need one of you guys drifting across the double yellow and smacking me on my Yamaha as im cruising. I'd be really really pissed off if i survived it. :p

street_racer_00
08-28-2002, 01:03 AM
Originally posted by RedNeck383
drifting... whats the big deal? i've done it, its fun. But for practical applications its not the best. besides the point you can get into a lot of trouble in a heartbeat (ie over doing it and spinning out).

dont get me wrong, for the intimidation factor of seeing a car more or less slide through a turn, thats pretty intimidating! But i just fail to see Le Mans race cars drifting through every turn.

please dont think this is a flame, if i was mr. camaro guy i'd be scared as hell to see some car pitchin it sideways under its own power. the guy probably had to stop and change his diapers.

I just dont see why everybody is so hot to trot over drifting the car, when in fact you can carry more speed through a corner by just hitting the Apex*. Yes, i know its giggles of fun... but i'd be more intent on trying to get the car to be as stable as possible, while being as quick as possible. Much like how i am on my Yamaha, you slide a bike and you're going to either crash, or die. whichever comes first.** (R1-Rider will know what im talking about)

Lets face it, 99.9% of us are NOT Professional Drivers, and drifting a car on public roads is just asking for trouble. Sorry to sound like a Grandpa... but sometimes we need to hear that Public Safety Announcement crap. So now that you've heard the warnings, you're going to go out and delibritly drift your car arent you? Yes you are. :)

* Rally cars are the exception, they're on dirt they NEED to drift. Or else some kid on a BMX will pass them up on the dirt roads.

** Professional Motorcycle racers drift bikes on a regular basis, that means both wheels sliding across the pavement but they still aim for the Apex. Oh theres that word again: Professional. (once again R1-Rider will know what im talking about)


Happy Drifting! Keep it within your own Limits... or at least on your side of the road, i dont need one of you guys drifting across the double yellow and smacking me on my Yamaha as im cruising. I'd be really really pissed off if i survived it. :p

Don't forget your cane, biofocals and viagra on your way out. Just kidding I agree, I don't see the point in putting yourself in a dangerous situation on purpose.....I guess it's the same with people who like to jump out of planes.

Layla's Keeper
08-28-2002, 10:23 AM
Sorry to be misleading about the type of corners these were. They're slow, short, 15mph, 90 degree and tighter flat corners that my buddy and I drift on. It's actually beneficial to drift them because we keep both the revs up and keep momentum. In a low torque car like a 240SX, you can't afford to slow down and keep within the grip of the tires, then speed back up. You're right, it's a rally technique. In rallying, you have the same scenario: small, low torque engine, lack of traction, and a desire to keep momentum through tight corners. So we actually use it as a skill, not just a show.

As for being careful, we are. Most of the time, when we go out to drift it's in parking lots in the middle of the night. Or, we do it on tight country roads nearing the break of dawn, as shown in my story. Drfiting happens at low speed, so we don't need a lot of room for it, so the local Wal-Mart at 2am is just right for us. That way, the only thing that gets hurt is possibly a bumper or side sill when somebody loops it into a curb. As opposed to sailng broadside into a parked car, or worse, a pedestrian.


Oh, and Redneck383, you don't need to tell me about clipping apexs, double clutching, heel-toeing, matching revs, or anything else that Skip Barber would have taught me. I'm already signed up for SCCA club licensing and plan to upgrade to a touring license after I get a second car. (I can't afford to risk 52 spoke wire wheels on track, they just aren't strong enough)

dbartoschek
08-28-2002, 02:10 PM
I think it's fun as hell on dirt.........of course i don't do it in my own car...i do it when i'm at work...lol..in the work cars.....
anyways.....rally cars are set-up to drift..............to my understanding, the brake balance is set up in such a way that the car drift's alot easier then doing it with your street car.......anyways......as long as you're not doing it with other cars around, i have no problem with it.........if you lose control and fly off the road, it's your car gettin' smashed up, and not mine.

R1-rider
08-28-2002, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by RedNeck383
I just dont see why everybody is so hot to trot over drifting the car, when in fact you can carry more speed through a corner by just hitting the Apex*. Yes, i know its giggles of fun... but i'd be more intent on trying to get the car to be as stable as possible, while being as quick as possible. Much like how i am on my Yamaha, you slide a bike and you're going to either crash, or die. whichever comes first.** (R1-Rider will know what im talking about)

** Professional Motorcycle racers drift bikes on a regular basis, that means both wheels sliding across the pavement but they still aim for the Apex. Oh theres that word again: Professional. (once again R1-Rider will know what im talking about)


Even as cool as Initial D is, we must remember they have been doing that stuff for years. So remember to keep it safe when learning to drift and don't just go out onto the street thinking you are Bunta Fujiwar.

Anyway ya, keeping your car in the apex of the turn is always the fastest way to carry momentum and to power yourself out.

hehe I got a couple of vids of some people "drifting" motorcyles

Layla's Keeper
08-28-2002, 03:34 PM
And again I say that my friend and I are very safe about it. We know our limitations. Heck, my friend was only weaned off of the handbrake a few months ago. We're no Bunta Fujiwara, heck, we're barely Kenji. But we know what we can and cannot do. And slinging the tail end around a hairpin at 17mph is one of those things we can do quite well.

In fact, drift is an old OLD technique from the earliest days of sporstcar racing when traction was never an option. In my MGB with its two inch wide tires, every corner I take involves a lot of sliding around and you have to manage the oversteer in a way as to not destroy the balance and as a way to set up for the next corner. It takes a lot of effort, especially without power steering.

I hope this doesn't turn into some sort of argument. I'm not out to get anyone. I just don't like being thought of as some no talent punkess trying to emulate an anime.

streetracer780
08-28-2002, 07:58 PM
I tried doing some drifts in my Eclipse. God damn that was tough to even get the car sideways. When I managed to I just spun out. I guess an FWD car isn't the thing to use :p . Although I have been with a budy of mine who has a 93 RX-7 and we've went drifting in the school parking lot before. I'm not the drift fan though. I like fast cornering and keeping my car's trancation to all four wheel.

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