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GTO / Evolution / or STI


Yenrab06
08-31-2006, 12:48 AM
Hey there. I was originally thinking about getting the GTO for months and months, and when im finally about to get it, I run into the Lancer Evolution VIII.

My friend keeps on telling me the Lancer Evolution and WRX STI which is 300LBS lighter then the 2006 GTO and has 287HP(lancer) 300HP (STI) would beat the GTO.

Can someone please clarify this, and help me make my decision on which car to get?

I have watched tons of videos on Youtube, and it's just not helping any.... THANK YOU!!!

BurntGauge
08-31-2006, 03:36 PM
I'd take an Evo or STi over a GTO anyday...but that's just me. We're talking about 4 doors, AWD, turbo tunabilitiy. The GTO interior is just not attractive and neither is the outside. What's great about the GTO is that it's NA and has tons of HP and torque but that's where it ends.

kachok25
08-31-2006, 03:52 PM
It has been well established that the STi beats the GTO in almost every aspect of proformance, if you doubt that just check out Edmunds.com comparison, to make matters worse the Evo stomps the STi so it would totaly OWN the GTO in a streight line and on any track. Dont get me wrong I really like the GTO but in stock form it is no thinly disguised racecar like the Evo, but for everyday driving the GTO is smoother quiter and more comfortable. However it would not take much to modify a GTO to outrun either one of them. LS2s hadle supercharging and NOS quite well in modarate doses (enough to catch the smaller cars and then some) and if you stiffen up and camber the suspension you might not catch them in the corners but you will not loose any real ground. Good luck.

G-man422
08-31-2006, 04:31 PM
I like the EVO, and GTO. I think the evo wins for stock performance (and 4wd) But i bet if you put a decent supercharger on the GTO, it would give the EVO a run for its money (in the straight line anyway).

blakscorpion21
08-31-2006, 04:58 PM
the evo does not "stomp" the sti. their preformance is virtually identical. the gto does 0-60 in about 5 flat and the evo/sti do it in about 4.7 so its a close race. as far as handling, the gto is totally outclassed by both. even so if i chose i would go with the gto. it looks way way better and has more power potential. plus id take a 400hp coupe over some clunky sedan anyday.

and a s/c on a gto would easily spank an evo/sti in acceleration.

kachok25
08-31-2006, 06:23 PM
The Evo only slightly beats the STi in the 1/4 but stomps it on the track. It has better cornering and better slolom speeds. The STis suspension is set up more for daily driving than the Evo though.

blakscorpion21
08-31-2006, 10:04 PM
top gear lap times. not exactly a stomping.

42 Mitsubishi Evo VIII 1.28.9

46 Subaru Impreza STi WRX WR1 1.29.4

kachok25
09-01-2006, 02:11 PM
Depends on the track, the evo can hold a .97G turn while the STi gimps around at .88G on the skidpad. Yes I know that there is more to it than just skidpad otherwise the evo would be 10 seconds faster. BTW that lap time you quoted is for the STi WR1. The regular STi ran a 1:30.1 If you would like to compare special versions there is a production 400hp Evo that would run circles around the WR1 (it even beat the 911) it ran a 1:24.8 on the same track.

blakscorpion21
09-01-2006, 07:07 PM
ive never heard of an evo pullin .97 gs. low 9.s high .8s is all ive ever seen it score. whats the diff in the sti and wr1? i only picked the wr1 cause i didnt see the regular sti.

VAD0R
09-02-2006, 12:23 AM
You also have to consider the STi comes with all season tires while the EVO has Falkens specifically designed for the track not to mention the new STi is supposed to have tighter more responsive steering. But the fact is that the EVO is better built to handle better on tarmac with its active yaw slightly more FWD biased AWD while the STi or at least the rally versions are more suited to dirt and gravel. Just take a look at the manufacturer placings in the WRC over recent years.

Dyno247365
09-02-2006, 11:42 PM
I thought some GTOs had 400hp? Atleast 350 with the LS2

VAD0R
09-02-2006, 11:50 PM
I thought some GTOs had 400hp? Atleast 350 with the LS2

The 2005 GTOs have 400hp due to an increase in bore from 5.4ls to 6. The reason though why it is still beat by the likes of the STi and EVO in the 1/4 and most tracks is because of the competition's AWD as well as them weighing in excess of 500lbs less. However, when it comes to top end and torque after tuning the GTO is on top.

Dyno247365
09-03-2006, 12:19 AM
The 2005 GTOs have 400hp due to an increase in bore from 5.4ls to 6. The reason though why it is still beat by the likes of the STi and EVO in the 1/4 and most tracks is because of the competition's AWD as well as them weighing in excess of 500lbs less. However, when it comes to top end and torque after tuning the GTO is on top.

Then why is the JGTC Subaru RWD?

I agree about the tuning part which is very important but stock for stock the evo or sti wins?

alphalanos
09-03-2006, 12:23 AM
Then why is the JGTC Subaru RWD?

I agree about the tuning part which is very important but stock for stock the evo or sti wins?

They converted it. Factory WRX is AWD. Between the three i'd take the Evo because its sexy as hell.

plus I like boxier styling over rounded.

Dyno247365
09-03-2006, 01:08 AM
They converted it. Factory WRX is AWD. Between the three i'd take the Evo because its sexy as hell.

plus I like boxier styling over rounded.

I was implying that RWD is better on a road course.

Moppie
09-03-2006, 01:52 AM
42 Mitsubishi Evo VIII 1.28.9

46 Subaru Impreza STi WRX WR1 1.29.4


Top gear tested the UK spec EVO and STi, this guy is looking at the US spec EVO and STi, which are quite different :)

Basicly the EVO is harder, smarter and a little faster than the STi everywhere in the world except the US, where it gains a few pounds and loses a few smarts to match its market.

TatII
09-03-2006, 03:46 AM
I was implying that RWD is better on a road course.

AWD is prohibited in JGTC or whats left of it. its now called something else. i think its now called Super GT if i remember correctly.

the reason why AWD was prohibited was an effort to outlaw the GTR completely when it dominated group A touring car championship.

also for the EVO and GTO. dollar for dollar mod the EVO will make more power. a reflash, fuel pump, cams, more boost, clutch, alcohol injection and your good for about 400 +/- on the stock turbo and injectors and should be good for high 11's in the 1/4 with a great driver. that is around $4000 in mods.

the STi is totally out of the picture when it comes to modding as the STi can barely get 300whp on hte stock turbo. so to get 400whp on a STi you would need larger injectors, reflash, bigger turbo, front mount intercooler conversion and if you want it to be reliable you need to strenghten your internals in the engine which adds to close to 7-8K in mods.

blakscorpion21
09-03-2006, 02:30 PM
for around 4k you could supercharge the gto for at least 500+hp with conservative boost. thats got to be good for 11s as well.

s360gt
09-03-2006, 02:43 PM
i would go with the mistubishi evolution yal. but you dont have to lisn to me because im only tn. but i know a lot about cars

s360gt
09-03-2006, 02:46 PM
th gto lacks power luxury and looks . its aerodynamics is stupid and the styles are as bitchin as a chevy broncos

TatII
09-03-2006, 03:05 PM
for around 4k you could supercharge the gto for at least 500+hp with conservative boost. thats got to be good for 11s as well.

most whipple and vortech blowers cost 5-6K minimum.

let me piece together my friends EVO

cams $600
ecutec $800
Tune $600
alcohol injection $600
electronic boost controller $300
turbo back exhaust $1000
clutch and flywheel $750
walbro fuel pump $100

= to exactly $4000 dollars. and these are just regular list prices that i named. if you shop around for used stuff you can get it for even cheaper. he could've skimped out on the Ecutek and just got the thing reflashed and save $800, but we want maximum effectiveness when he switches to high boost map ( 28 + psi ) when he runs alcohol injection.

VAD0R
09-03-2006, 03:09 PM
th gto lacks power luxury and looks . its aerodynamics is stupid and the styles are as bitchin as a chevy broncos

Have you ever looked or even sat inside an EVO and I've never heard it get accolades for luxury. Also the GTO is the most aerodynamic with a .31 drag coefficient, as if the fact that its the most rounded doesn't give it away. Unless of course you actually stating you like boxy cars, which is soley your opinion and I can't really argue with.

blakscorpion21
09-03-2006, 08:46 PM
Have you ever looked or even sat inside an EVO and I've never heard it get accolades for luxury. Also the GTO is the most aerodynamic with a .31 drag coefficient, as if the fact that its the most rounded doesn't give it away. Unless of course you actually stating you like boxy cars, which is soley your opinion and I can't really argue with.


yea i agree, the gto is more luxurious than an evo, has more power, and looks better. the gto is not a very aggressive looking or stunningly attractive but its looks definitley surpass that of the evo and sti. sedans are just not nearly as cool as coupes no matter how fast they are.

is this guy trying to say hes 10 or tn lol? he obviously doesnt know as much about cars as he thinks.

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