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Mercedes-Benz Actros Wrecker Truck


2.2 Straight six
08-28-2006, 05:56 PM
The inspiration for this project came from two places, firstly i'm a big truck fan, and admitted diesel junkie, and secondly the truck pictured below.

http://www.ditzj.de/assets/images/mercedes/falck/4148falck01.jpg

the truck is a 10x8 (that's 10 wheels, 8 driven.) belonging to a company called Falck in Norway, i believe. i found it quite attention grabbing and decided i wanted something similar, but better. naturally...

the webpage for photo of this truck is below:
http://www.ditzj.de/html/en/trucks/mercedes/falck4148.html

mine will differ in that it'll have 3 rear drive axles, whereas the two front axles will not be driven, they will solely operate to steer and carry the weight of the truck and the mounted recovery gear.

i took three italera Actros kits, because i need three drive axles for my model, and two steer axles. one was of a late model Actros, but since the majority of the parts, including the drive axle, were the same it didn't matter.

below is a picture of the box art for the truck.

http://www.modelcentrum.pl/photo/IT%200718S.jpg

for my project i needed to fabricate my own chassis, or at least most of the chassis. i would keep the front part of the rails as they'd include the forward engine mounts, suspension mounts and cab mounts. the exhaust, air filter/intake and fuel system will be either scratchbuild or relocated.

a lot of styrene was needed, so i bought a lot. below is most of it, i bought lots of sheet in various thicknesses, including two large 65x45xo.15cm sheets to make the body.

http://www.photodump.com/direct/chrismca/PICT1468.jpg

in one case the fuel tank has been extended using two tanks and a cut 'n' shut job, this will be attached to the chassis but located within the wrecked body.

after modifying some styrene I-beam to shallow channel i smoothed the details off part of the actros chassis rails to use as a template to drill my own suspension location holes. this saved time measuring each hole out and marking it to be drilled.

http://www.photodump.com/direct/chrismca/CIMG2477.jpg

masking tape was used to hold it in place while i drilled the holes, two seperate drills were used as the holes are in two sizes.

in order to save time i took the other chassis rail and taped it to the one with the drilled holes, then drilled through, giving a perfect mirror image of the original.

http://www.photodump.com/direct/chrismca/CIMG2478.jpg

after all this was done all 30 holes were finished, ready for the suspension to be mounted.

http://www.photodump.com/direct/chrismca/CIMG2482.jpg

here the suspension parts are fitted, the carriers and anti-roll bars are in place. the alxe centrepoints are 5.5cm apart, perfectly in scale to the real distance between.

http://www.photodump.com/direct/chrismca/PICT1455.jpg

to allow drive to the second and third drive axles the first two differentials must have a torque output, i decided against buying another kit for a different mercedes as it has the required part, instead i drilled through the back of the first two diffs. not technically correct, but i'm not too worried.

the rod passed through is there for me to measure the distance between the axles, so i can scratchbuild the two extra driveshafts.

http://www.photodump.com/direct/chrismca/PICT1438.jpg

the wrecker gear is heavy, and a large one like i'm making needs a strong chassis to support it, and the trucks it would tow. so i built a second set of chassis rails that would sit on top of the trucks chassis. the entire wrecker gear would sit on this, not the truck's chassis.

i made it in two parts. partly because i didn't have a pair ofstyrene lengths long enough to make it in one part, and also because i'm going to scratchbuild a crane too, which would have it's own set of rails.

more cross-member will be added for rigidity and strength.

http://www.photodump.com/direct/chrismca/PICT1461.jpg

here you can see where the two upped rails join. the bar that sticks out is to support the body, there will be a number (probably 10 in total) of supports for the body to attach to the chassis.

in the below picture you can see the rail upper chassis rail (what a mouthfull..) being clamped in place while it's glued on, the front part for the crane has not been glued in, as the chassis rails are further apart at the front of the truck. it will be attached once the crane is built.

http://www.photodump.com/direct/chrismca/PICT1464.jpg

slots were cut into the L-beam styrene so it would fit "around" the suspension parts. (this photo was taken prior to gluing, hence the rail not being on completely)

http://www.photodump.com/direct/chrismca/PICT1465.jpg

with the majority of the chassis complete i moved on to making the wrecking gear's boom. after spend all my money on styrene and kits i didn't have anything to buy the right ABS rectangular tube with, so had to resort to scratchbuilding it.

this turned out well, it meant i could make the boom to my dimentions, and i wouldn't have to make-do with ABS tube which might not be the perfect dimentions.

the boom is made from 9 parts.

2 sides.
2 strips (top/bottom)
4 L-beams for rigidity.
1 seperator (this will be an extending boom, but not to double length)

below is a picture of a trial fitting (no glue was used) to obtain the correct measurement, to allow for any inaccuracy from my dimentions.

http://www.photodump.com/direct/chrismca/PICT1480.jpg

here you can see one side recieving the bottom strip.

http://www.photodump.com/direct/chrismca/PICT1482.jpg

the two completed sides, the top and bottom were both attached to the same side first, to help everything line up perfectly.

http://www.photodump.com/direct/chrismca/PICT1484.jpg

in the picture below are the two sides (complete with L-beams) for the extendable part of the boom, this is quite short as too much extension lowers the lifting capacity of the boom. this will be extended via the use of a hydraulic ram, mounted on top of the main boom.

http://www.photodump.com/direct/chrismca/PICT1487.jpg

next i moved on to building the hydraulic rams that would lift the boom, made entirely out of styrene tube and some shallow channel. the inner (entending) part of the rams will be covered in Bare Metal Foil to make them look like the polished steel they're made of.

instead of the usual pair of rams, i opted for 4 rams, in keeping with the heavy-duty theme of this truck.

this photo shows the parts for the other three rams, and one completely trial run for mock-ups and measurements.

http://www.photodump.com/direct/chrismca/PICT1490.jpg

some 1x1cm L-beam (3cm long) was used for this mock-up, with a hole drilled and some tube pressed through, it was taped onto the upper chassis rails and onto the boom to give me an idea of the ram's mounting points.

it's 50% likely that this is close to what the final version of the mounts will look like.

http://www.photodump.com/direct/chrismca/PICT1495.jpg

i also made a 5-minute mock-up pair of pivot mounts for the main boom to pivot on. although these particular mounts won't be used it's quite likely that the final versions will share strong resemblance to these.

again, they were mounted on L-beam styrene for the mock-up, and were taped in place.

http://www.photodump.com/direct/chrismca/PICT1494.jpg

below is a picture of the entire mock-up, with the main boom and its extension in place, with the ram and pivot points also in place.

http://www.photodump.com/direct/chrismca/PICT1493.jpg

that's all for now, but more work will be done tonight, possibly the finishing of the other rams and completion of the final pivot/mounting points.

expect updates tomorrow.

if you have any questions/comments/suggestions etc.. post them up, and let me know what you think of it so far.

Thanks for looking,
Chris.

Toksin
08-28-2006, 06:04 PM
Nice work Chris, looking mean so far :D

bigfrit
08-28-2006, 07:04 PM
WOWOWOW !!! Superamazing!

Best of luck on the progress, I ll be watching!
And the construction of the chassis is just extremely impressive, I want to see more !


Oli

Jay!
08-28-2006, 07:49 PM
Holy crap! :eek2:

2.2 Straight six
08-28-2006, 07:56 PM
WOWOWOW !!! Superamazing!

Best of luck on the progress, I ll be watching!
And the construction of the chassis is just extremely impressive, I want to see more !


Oli

Thank you. and may your wish be granted...

the next thing to build is a hydraulic pump, for all the rams, winches and the crane that i'm going to build.

the picture below is the one i want, or one close to it. a Kawasaki twin-cylinder ( i think) unit. this will be run off the truck's engine, via a unit called a power take-off (because it takes the engine's power to drive something else) which will also be scratchbuilt.

http://www.fpdiesel.co.nz/pump.jpg

while we're on the subject of engines...

i thought that a truck this big needs something special powering it. yes, the 16-litre V8 normally found nestling under the cab is quite capable. but i wanted more. so i took a pair of V8 engines from two of the kits, cut them up and stuck them together, i did the same for the cylinder heads, sump and intake manifold. they all need some putty work but they'll be fine after that. they're a little rough now. the aforementioned fuel tank is also in the picture.

http://www.photodump.com/direct/chrismca/PICT1500.jpg

i made a hydraulic fluid cooler by removing the intercoolers from a pair of Mercedes-Benz SK truck radiators, and glueing them together. once they had glued solidly i made a pair of right-angle triangular supports, they're one piece items, not made from three strips.

http://www.photodump.com/direct/chrismca/PICT1479614.jpg

to detail the truck i bought various different parts, my local R/C shop sells plastruct styrene and i bought some R/C parts to go on the truck.

i bought hinges, for the storage compartments, ball/socket joints which were going to be used for the rams, but they looked insubstantial for this. some hex-fitting bolts and some steel cable. the cable will be used for the winches.

the other bags contain crimp tubes for the cable and some tiny resin-cast nuts/bolts which are in the second picture below, these were bought elsewhere.

http://www.photodump.com/direct/chrismca/PICT1457.jpg

these are the tiny resin-cast nuts and bolts, they will be used on the crane/boom/chassis/etc. i'm not sure who makes them, i'll find out when i get some more. they're very well detailed and add unrivaled realisn that photo-etched items can't match.

http://www.photodump.com/direct/chrismca/PICT1456.jpg


to show the detail that can be obtained by the use of the resin-cast bolts here's a picture or the bolts in place on the chassis, they are used to replicate the bolts that would be used to hold the two chassis rails together.

i'm also going to add "bolt plates" which will have 8 bolts (4 for each rail) to the chassis, for strength.

http://www.photodump.com/direct/chrismca/PICT1498.jpg

below is an example of the turned brass ball of the ball/socket joints, they're very well made and will be put to use somewhere on the model. hopefully.

http://www.photodump.com/direct/chrismca/PICT1459.jpg

whil at my local model shop/hobby store a set of tools and detailing items for a 1:35 tamiya tanks caught my eye, they're the perfect size for 1:24 scale too, and will be put inside the open storage compartments once the body is finished. all lockers/doors will be displayed open once the model is finished.

http://www.photodump.com/direct/chrismca/PICT1472.jpg (http://www.photodump.com/)

blubaja
08-28-2006, 08:06 PM
Wow! Nice project to take on! Good luck!

BVC500
08-28-2006, 08:28 PM
Really cool! Keep us posted

Dean23
08-28-2006, 08:38 PM
This is fantastic.I am going to be watching this build closely. I love scratch building it always amazes me the different talents every one has. One day I will have to try some scratch building.

Midtenn
08-28-2006, 08:50 PM
Very cool. I'm definately goign to keep and eye on this project. Esp since I work for a company in the US that builds the tool bodies for heavy instustry wreckers.

MidMazar
08-28-2006, 10:25 PM
Is this a tutorial, it should be. I wanna see more.

2.2 Straight six
08-28-2006, 10:28 PM
Is this a tutorial, it should be. I wanna see more.

if you want a tutorial on anything jsut let me know, i'll be happy to make one.

Rally Sport
08-28-2006, 10:32 PM
Thats pretty cool, man.

I know I would give up after about an hour into it.

suicidehummer
08-28-2006, 11:07 PM
Wow! You're really going all-out on this, aren't you?
How much $$ have you spent so far? I'm sure it's alot,
as I understand these big rigs cost a good sum.

I'm lucky enough to know somebody who got a
Kenworth T600A for his B-day in '96, and he
gave it to me. Not only that, but i went on a
trip to the biggest hobby shop in New England,
and found a rare, vintage, car transporter trailer,
so look for that build soon!

2.2 Straight six
08-28-2006, 11:38 PM
total cost? a lot.

3 kits cost roungly $130 all in. then i spent abour $115 on styrene/supplies last week. and about $30 for various other parts/supplies. (sacrificing some new earrings for the girlfriend. i know, i know..)

total cost ~$275.

suicidehummer
08-28-2006, 11:51 PM
sacrificing some new earrings for the girlfriend. i know, i know..
I'd do the same...:rolleyes:

tajoe
08-29-2006, 12:29 AM
WOW!!!! Amaizing work! I will be watching this build closely. I have been wanting to do scratch builds for a while, it's great to see a step by step. And my co-workers tell me I have too much time on my hands with the kits I build! How long have you been working on this project?

quadzero
08-29-2006, 01:36 AM
This is simply amazing, one of the most ambitious projects I have ever seen. The truck that inspired all this is one cool monster.

gtidude
08-29-2006, 02:10 AM
you got some serious skill there dude, excellent work

2.2 Straight six
08-29-2006, 05:05 AM
WOW!!!! Amaizing work! I will be watching this build closely. I have been wanting to do scratch builds for a while, it's great to see a step by step. And my co-workers tell me I have too much time on my hands with the kits I build! How long have you been working on this project?

i've been working on it for just over 2 weeks now. working probably 8-12 hours a day, a lot of time is taken to do relatively small amount of work, at least it seems that way. the scratchbuilding takes a lot of time in doing thing like meansurements, calculations and template-making where needed.

if scratchbuilding's something you want to try just go for it, i've never tried anything this ambitious, but it's determination that builds skill, just give it a go, and never be disappointed, i certainly didn't get great results the first time i tried it. but its when you try again and learn from previous mistakes that really builds skill. that, and it's far easier than everyone think. honestly, it really is.

tutorials - if anyone would like a tutorial on anything within this thread, or something else let me know, i'm more than happy to walk everyone through the steps of making things. just let me know and i'll have the tutorial started probably within 48 hours of the request being made.

thanks for the kind words everyone, it's much appreciated and i'm glad you're all enjoying the progress.

on the subject of progress, the hours between now and my last post have brought some, unfortunately it's not a lot.

after the trial-run versions of the pivot mounts, i decided that that was the design i wanted, an upright with a horizontal support, i i took out the mitre block and the remains of the square box section (the trial versions were rectangular in cross-section, but i made the final versions the same as the upper chassis rails.) and made a pair of supports, measurements were made and they were drilled accordingly for the "pin" to slot through.

this pic shows the mounting bolt plates talked about below.

http://www.photodump.com/direct/chrismca/PICT1511.jpg

i also made some bolting plates for the "pin", again in keeping with the heavy-duty theme, they're made from 11 parts. made from 0.5mm plastic sheet, cut with a compass cutter, a second circle was marked with a pair of compasses and 8 divisions were makred up, where the 8 divisions met with the second circle a hold was drilled. this allowed (almost) even spacing between the bolts. the parts in each are as follows:

8 bolts
1 double-bolt
1 disk plate
1 pin shaft.

http://www.photodump.com/direct/chrismca/PICT1509.jpg

a did a mock-up to see what the twin-rams would look like, if they would work and what spacing they'd need. they work perfectly, but i may reduce the spacing between them, making them closer together. it's more aesthetically pleasing to me. the supports for the rams will be made fromr re-worked L-beams and they'll be attached to the boom without bolts, but by welding (putty weld seams will make many appearances on this model)

you can also see the trial-run pivots being used, they're now employed to hold the boom up while i make measurements and the like.

http://www.photodump.com/direct/chrismca/PICT1512.jpg

that's pretty much it for the moment, i'm continuing work on the boom and starting the crane too. hopefully i'll have more work to report back with later.

let me know what you think, all opinions are valued, tell me what you like/don't like and all suggestions are welcome.

Thanks,
Chris.

wouter1981
08-29-2006, 05:24 AM
Great work. I'll folow this closly. Just a question. Will everything "work"? Like the boom, will it be movable, or will you just leave it in 1 position and gleu it fixed.

sjelic
08-29-2006, 05:33 AM
Amazing stuff, keep it up, I love this kind of work no matter what subject ;)

2.2 Straight six
08-29-2006, 06:29 AM
Great work. I'll folow this closly. Just a question. Will everything "work"? Like the boom, will it be movable, or will you just leave it in 1 position and gleu it fixed.

everything will be movable, the boom, stabiliser legs, outriggers and such will all move. the only part that isn't likely to move is the winch, i may add something so it can be rewound with an allen key or something.

the boom will go up and down with the rams moving, it will also extend. the crane i'm (slowly) building will also move. once the wrecker body is completed all the compartments will be openable, they'll be hinged.

i'm working on the hinge design at the moment, instead of the doors "swinging" open they will come out and hinge sideways, hard to explain. basically when they're opened the door panel will always be parrallel with the body. once i've finished making the first prototype hinge (in a couple of hours) i'll post a pic to show you how it works.

Nicole8188
08-29-2006, 01:05 PM
(sacrificing some new earrings for the girlfriend. i know, i know..)

I don't want anything...keep building your truck!

And for future reference, don't give me the link to the thread where you mention things like this. Did you think I wouldn't really read it?

Seriously though, I really don't want anything.

willimo
08-29-2006, 03:10 PM
That's a pretty rad truck, man, and your build is killer so far! I love seeing scratchwork on this scale, and seeing the materials people use and the way they go about solving the problems they encounter. I also enjoy that you are sharing it with us. Very awesome.

Who makes those resin bolts you are using? I could use a baggie or two of them and am really curious where to find them. Are they model RR parts?

willimo
08-29-2006, 03:14 PM
Seriously though, I really want earrings and if I don't get them I will smash your puny truck.

OMG learn teh codez and tranzlate!!

2.2 Straight six
08-29-2006, 06:53 PM
Who makes those resin bolts you are using? I could use a baggie or two of them and am really curious where to find them. Are they model RR parts?

i'm not sure, i'll find out when i go to the model store. they don't come bagged, they come all on a "tree" where they're cast and have a number of different bolt patterns. all i know off-hand is that they're from the czech republic.

bigfrit
08-29-2006, 07:07 PM
I m jealous! And am checking often in hope of more update madness!

GOGOGO !!!


Oli

2.2 Straight six
08-29-2006, 08:16 PM
i'm still working on the hinges. hopefully i'll have more to report back with in a couple of hours.

engineering these hinges is harder than i thought. i want the doors of swing round the frame, and to lay almost flat to the bodywork. hard to explain what i mean. some buses have these doors, they open and close without pivoting as such. the door is always running parallel to the bodywork.

anyone know the name to these kind of hinges?

2.2 Straight six
08-29-2006, 08:20 PM
i found an example picture of the hinges, but it only shows the door, and not the hinge detail. it should help explain what i mean though. as you can see the door must come forward away from the frame, then it moves to the side, always running parallel to the bodywork.

http://www.oxford-chiltern-bus-page.co.uk/upoload%20150106/Arriva%20new%20VDL-VH%20door%20arrangment%20Gavin%20Francis%20130106. jpg

EDIT - found it, a spot of quick googling and research into bus/coach door mechanisms hailed the answer, it's called a parallelogram plug door, apparently. the link below gives an bird's eye view of it. scroll down and you'll see it.

http://www.nabiusa.com/parts/parts_page.cfm?res_id=7

http://www.vapordoors.com/images/v_figure4.gif

deltableh
08-29-2006, 08:46 PM
Wow, this is amazing work! I can't wait to see when it's done!

2.2 Straight six
08-29-2006, 09:52 PM
well, those few minutes were invaluable, i've finalised the design for the hinges, and i've even made a fully working prototype! a simple styrene sheet with cut-out, but it works none-the-less and does the job well for taking measurements and trial fitting. to make sure the door doesn't pivot on the hinge mounted inside the door panel there will be two of these hinges per door. (one hinge covers the entire height of the door, the pictures below show one hinge) the second hinge will be mounted about 5mm along, allowing some movement but not allowing too much.

onto the pictures!

here you can see the colsed door, with the hinges. i've made the part that wraps around the corner a 90-degree angle, to save space and for a tight fitting when the door's open. having the hinge mounted on the door right down the centre means that when open, the right hand side of the door comes level to the left hand side of the frame.

you can see here that the right-angles on the swing arm take up the minimum of space.

http://www.photodump.com/direct/chrismca/PICT1521.jpg

the open door, this is just a trail run, not the finished example, which is why the door itself isn't completely vertical. the ones employed on the model will be perfectly vertical, parallel to the bodywork.

you can also see how tight and close to the bodywork the door with be when opened. this is essential on a vehicle that has to operate on the roadside, so the door isn't in the road.

http://www.photodump.com/direct/chrismca/PICT1522.jpg

i should have the finished example with a complete twin-hinge door done later. maybe in a couple of hours.

Thanks for looking, let me know what you think.
Chris.

mvaneersel
08-29-2006, 10:11 PM
Very impressive work. This will be one big truck when it gets done. Those bolts are neat, I'm gonna have to find some for myself.

2.2 Straight six
08-29-2006, 10:21 PM
Very impressive work. This will be one big truck when it gets done. Those bolts are neat, I'm gonna have to find some for myself.

it certainly is, to scale the real thing's chassis would be 52ft long, with all bodywork and boom supports in place it would probably reach 54ft.

Nicole8188
08-29-2006, 10:40 PM
And this is why he never talks to me...

2.2 Straight six
08-29-2006, 11:01 PM
you're not online!

Nicole8188
08-29-2006, 11:23 PM
Yeah, I know. I keep running in and out of my room because we're watching movies. I'm gonna go get some pizza...such is college life.

Be back later. I love you!

vinnym86
08-30-2006, 04:14 PM
it sux. you're horrible. i hate you.


looks meticulous but fun. good job so far, and a tutorial thread would be cool.

voyageur
08-30-2006, 04:38 PM
GREAT scratchbuilding! I love all the details you post, the whole thread is like a "light" tutorial :-)

I'm working on a big truck project, too. Hope you don't mind if I use your idea with the door hinges ( pics already show a lot, but a tutorial would be great ).

Keep on building like that! It inspires me...

Cheers from Germany

PS: Once finished you could send it to the company for mounting it on the crane of the truck's scale model ;-)

http://www.ditzj.de/assets/images/mercedes/falck/4148falck06.jpg
...should fit!

godfather23
08-31-2006, 02:57 AM
That is serious scrathc building. Good luck with the rest of the project. And I must add that - now I´ve seen your thread - I can understand your pics in your signature :grinno: !

2.2 Straight six
08-31-2006, 03:04 AM
yes, the sig's a bit confusing. it's going to be re-worked though.

white97ex
08-31-2006, 06:58 AM
this is awesome. Amazing craftsmanship. Can't wait to see more!

Eero15
09-03-2006, 02:30 PM
Really nice truck.I'm amazed.
But what about the other truck pieces thats left?Are you going to sell them?

2.2 Straight six
09-03-2006, 02:49 PM
Really nice truck.I'm amazed.
But what about the other truck pieces thats left?Are you going to sell them?

they're getting put into the "parts box" and are used in other projects.

as far as i know i have over 600 parts left from the kits used for this truck. i think i only used about 20 parts from the other two actros kits, there are more than 300 parts per kit.

suicidehummer
09-03-2006, 04:28 PM
Have you checked your pm's? I sent you a reply.

2.2 Straight six
09-03-2006, 06:43 PM
yes, sorry. i've been busy recently sorting out college stuff, hence the lack of updates. hopefully normal service will resume tomorrow. i'm working on doing the dimensions of the engine, but it's not going to be a quick proccess as i can't get hold of the engine blueprints at the moment. i'm going to contact Cummins UK tomorrow and see if they can send me the blueprints of the engine.

suicidehummer
09-03-2006, 10:33 PM
Great! Thanks very much!

mike@af
09-04-2006, 06:19 AM
Great work Chris! I saw your signature and I was intrigued by what looked like a great scratch build, what an understatement that was. Fantastic work. You have engineered the project very well and given great thought to every detail. I look forward to seeing more.

Now is this 1/24 or 1/12? As mentioned it looks huge.

2.2 Straight six
09-04-2006, 06:31 AM
it's a 1/24, but yes, it is very big and allows great detail to be put into it.

that said, i'm actually considering making a total scratchbuild 1/12 in mostly steel and aluminium. the next rpogects to go with this are a flatbed truck, a Mercedes-Benz Sprinter van (Dodge Sprinter in the US) made entirely from scratch. and i've been working on blueprints for a 1/5 car, totally of my own design.

i'm doing a model engineering class in my new college and will be machining various parts for this and my next projects, the first items being some aluminium hyraulic rams.

i'm also in the proccess of making measurements and plans to machine a Cummins 5.9 engine to make a couple of resin ones. (this will not be sold, and only a couple will be given to others. this is due to licencing reasons.)

i'm working on the truck at the moment, doing reseach into parts, gathering blueprints and doing various bits of design for the crane to go on it, and the bodywork.

hopefully updates will be up later.

thanks for the kind comments everyone.

porschenut
09-04-2006, 08:05 AM
Woah thats an epic build. the detailing on the chassis and the amount of time your putting in. hope it all pays off with a great finished product.
Euan

willimo
09-06-2006, 11:22 AM
Just as a side note, because I'm a semantic jerk, you are making "plans" of a 1/5 car, and looking for "plans" of a Cummins engine.

"Blueprints" are copies of plans. Back in the day, before computer, plans were originally drawn, by hand, on thin, transluscent paper in either pencil or pencil and ink. Then when copies were needed, they placed these originals over special paper, which was then exposed to light through the original, and then the paper was exposed to ammonia which "developed" the copy, by darkening the paper that was exposed to light, leaving a negative of white lines, which made up the plan.

Eventually, technology reversed it, so that blue lines remained on white paper, and these were called "bluelines." These days, both these methods are completely obsolete, as they aren't the most accurate ways to reproduce copies. We just print another copy on our plotters if we need them now.

Print copies of our "plans."

2.2 Straight six
09-06-2006, 01:09 PM
i know how it works, but i've always refered to "plans" as blueprints, i know it's not technically correct, but that's a me thing.

if you want to be totally technical many of my measurement i use are from "specification sheets" provided by the truck's manufacturers, so they're not called "plans" or "blueprints" by the manufacturer, that's me calling them "blueprints".

i know a man by the name of Ken Grange, a designer who's designed numberous thing for all different areas, he's worked on everything from ice-cream scoops to what was the world's fastest commuter trian (France's SNCF) and he refers to his "plans" as "blueprints". that's not where i got it from, but it goes to show even those who working in the design field still refer to "plans" as "blueprints".

suicidehummer
09-06-2006, 05:22 PM
If you're going to be doing scratchbiulding, you should make
a model of the new retro Challenger!
Well I would...If I could!:lol:

2.2 Straight six
09-06-2006, 05:27 PM
If you're going to be doing scratchbiulding, you should make
a model of the new retro Challenger!
Well I would...If I could!:lol:

sure, i'll give it a shot sometime.

willimo
09-07-2006, 12:58 AM
... but it goes to show even those who working in the design field still refer to "plans" as "blueprints".

And I'm still a semantic jerk :evillol:

So... when're you gonna get some more done on this rad project?

2.2 Straight six
09-07-2006, 12:22 PM
i've been doing little things here and there, i stopped for a few days while i sorted out college. (which is now done, and in my new college i get a 5-day weekend!)

i'm going to re-make the bumper tonight. i'm working on converting the cab from high-roof sleeper to low-roof day cab, which is harder than i thought it would be.

the rams will not be plastic in the final version, they will be machined aluminium/steel and will consist of 3 main parts, with 6 bolts per ram.

i will post my blueprints later.

WickedNYCowboy
09-19-2006, 05:20 PM
The inspiration for ...
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Thanks for looking,
Chris.
*Wipes Drool* That is a NICE Looking rig the real one. You have great craftsmenship and paitence! Also you should have left the sleeper then go threw the trouble and make a sister version with a day cab! Also, keep me posted by PMing me when you make an update to the thread since I usually don't post in here.
Thanks.
Evan

Enzoenvy1
09-26-2006, 05:08 PM
Holy Geez, I want the free time you have!!!! I need to move away from my girlfriend and I too could attempt this stuff!!! Hear that Nicole (my Nicole), I am moving to Modena to do my Ferrari models finally!!!!

Ok, glad I go that out. Absolutely astounding attempt at a scratchbuild! I know this will take a while but I cannot wait to follow it all. You have much patience, yesssss.

Raceman
10-25-2006, 06:59 PM
got here by mistake but this is awesome,looking really good so far,will keep an eye on this truck.GREAT WORK.

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