time to move on thanks blackcrow

this place isnt my type of forum, its good you guys have alot of knowledge but i like a little more layed back kind of forum, im sure you wont miss me, thank you black crow you actually helped me without getting annoyed or atleast showing it.

Oh, I'm bawling my eyes out at the moment. I will miss you SO MUCH.









heh. :screwy:

Well, I'm sorry to see that you aren't gonna stick around. If you still need any help with your DSM at least you have my msn. Cya around man.

What a fucking loser:uhoh:. He wants respect when he comes on this forum without correct grammar? What do you expect? Then he crys and threatens to leavehttp://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a285/crazydriver7686/handjob.gif...:shakehead

Wow... This thread wins the EMO award of the year.

LMAO, seriously dude, you dont have to play pitty me, just stay, learn the rules, follow them, and you'll be just fine.

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Like I said.

I just went through all of your threads, and posts. You're getting your ass handed to you in just about every thread you posted... Sorry about that, but thats how it goes untill you start picking it up... This place is about as laid back as it gets. There are not alot of frequent members, thats about all... Give it a year.. It'll grow on ya...

This place is about as laid back as it gets.

You got that right. Other forums are either too over-regulated and a pain in the butt to surf, or too under-regulated and full of BS to be of any use as technical forums. AF is a good middle-ground, in my opinion.

Mine too. AF is a great place, I have tried out tuners and style and I dont like either. Tuners has too much traffic and seems way over moderated and style is just a bunch of assholes and only a few of them really seem to know anything. Most of them pay people to work on their cars. Who the fuck does that? ;) Anyway, learn to fit in and I am sure you'll like it here, we all had to and we're still here.

Learn to fit in and I am sure you'll like it here, we all had to and we're still here.

:1: I couldn't have said it better myself.

I think some people were a bit harsh on this guy.

If he doesn't like it here then he can leave. We were not harsh on him, he just asked alot of stupid questions and brought 90% of it on himself. If he wants to stay around and become a contributing member, then he should probably start to act like one, or at least quit acting like a damn baby.

since when do we have threads to say good bye?....honestly it sounds like your begging for attention. Nobody likes that.

If he doesn't like it here then he can leave. We were not harsh on him, he just asked alot of stupid questions and brought 90% of it on himself. If he wants to stay around and become a contributing member, then he should probably start to act like one, or at least quit acting like a damn baby.
Couldnt have said that better myself.

You guys really are being excessively harsh to this thread. When I first came to AF I asked worse questions than that guy did. Fortunatly for me, the Camero and Firebird guys were rather nice and gave me suggestions for other things to do to my car that they thought I would enjoy. They weren't calling me stupid newb and shit like that. I don't think that the E/L/T section has been quite as nice as it should be to some newbs. Yes, I know that some deserve what they get but this guy was seriously here to learn something. I didn't know shit about a car when I came here and I'd say I've learned a pretty good bit from just a car forum. :2cents:

please answer this and make it harsh!!


He asked and he recieved. I know it might have been his "buddie", but still, he should have taken more care of his account and should have selected better friends. If he had friends like that, I don't see how the DSM community is any worse... he could have stayed if he wanted to. He sounded like he just wanted to talk and meet people, right? Did he go to the Off Topic section of AF.com? I'm sorry for being a dick, and I know you're standing up for him, but really, first impressions mean a lot and if that's how we first see him as... then you know. Again, I appologize, if you ever talk to him again, you can tell him we started on the wrong foot.

On the other hand, for him to create this thread, thinking that we'll miss him or regret being mean to him with his godly 43 posts, I think someone's simply trying to be a drama queen. So boo hoo. Boo fricken hoo.

I've been on many forums, and I've gone through the same thing.. as long as you stick around, people begin to accept you.. and that's when you're no longer a noob and you actually try to make the forum better.

Well geez... I guess I should stop being so nice to all the newbs that don't make the greatest first impressions. Ya know what, its probably a good thing I didn't start out here in the E/L/T when I first came to AF or I would have been turn away by how people act here. I talk to a lot of you guys outside of AF and I know your not dicks, so why act like it here to other people that come to us looking for help?...

Seriously... Everybody has to start somewhere. You can't all really be against me on this subject, can you?

I didn't know shit about a car when I came here and I'd say I've learned a pretty good bit from just a car forum. :2cents:

Amen to that.

You guys really are being excessively harsh to this thread. When I first came to AF I asked worse questions than that guy did. Fortunatly for me, the Camero and Firebird guys were rather nice and gave me suggestions for other things to do to my car that they thought I would enjoy. They weren't calling me stupid newb and shit like that. I don't think that the E/L/T section has been quite as nice as it should be to some newbs. Yes, I know that some deserve what they get but this guy was seriously here to learn something. I didn't know shit about a car when I came here and I'd say I've learned a pretty good bit from just a car forum. :2cents:

Hey I am totally on your side. We all see alot of flaming going on here, ESPECIALLY towards newbies. I know for certain that I did not search at first when I first came to this forum. What really is unacceptable is when, a newbie asks a real dumb question or posts in the wrong subforum, and we have some members replying, "WHAT THE FUCK! POST IN THE RIGHT FUCKING SUBFORUM" or " DO A FUCKING SEARCH NEXT TIME". I know we have all seen this happen in some way or maybe even said this before.

If we where to just tell them nicely the first, second and even third time, they most likely will stop. If it becomes a repeated offense then yes a member should send them a PM or something. I feel that a PM is way more effective way to ommunicate with someone , mainly because it is a direct conversation with that person.

We are all DSM'ers we should watch eachothers backs, not stab one another.

PS: I remember when blackcrow would answer all my BS questions when I was a noob and had ZERO experience and he tolerated me. Thank You. It is members like him that should be modeled after.

PS: I remember when blackcrow would answer all my BS questions when I was a noob and had ZERO experience and he tolerated me. Thank You. It is members like him that should be modeled after.
Thanks man. I am trying to return to the forums what the forums gave me when I came here. I'm glad to see somebody has my back on this one. lol :thumbsup:

But all of the regulars I can think of have something interesting to say or a good question to ask and do so in a well spelled and punctuated manner. Both of his threads were barely readable and had no clear questions or relatively interesting stories. Yes, some of us (myself included) can be a tad harsh at times, but I feel that it is sometimes necessary to keep our forum clean. I think if we get the point across right away that they can either A) leave or B) change right away. If every newbie with nothing interesting to say and the English skills of a second grader were just allowed to keep on, none of us would still be here. For example, take the Cavalier section of AF. You think this place is laidback? The Cavy section is about as unmoderated and unknowledgable as anything I have ever seen. No one knows half a damn thing over there. I started out on AF pretty much half here, half there. I dont go there hardly at all anymore, and very few of the halfways knowledgable guys that used to hang around are there anymore. The forum is now overridden with the same kind of newbies we are trying to fix or get rid of. Want to see what happens to a forum without a bit of self moderation by the forum regulars? Go there and you guys will realize that it is important to keep things in halfways decent order here. Not trying to argue with you guys, I agree we can be a tad harsh at times, but IMO a little tough love goes a long way in keeping our place in order.

I'm not saying to not moderate at all here, but it seems as though some members take things into their own hands from the wrong angles. I've seen some people reply with some of the most ignorant responses and then don't even proceed to answer the question or point them in another direction.

I almost always point them in the right direction. I was only messing with him.:twak:

Whatever.... :wave: :emo1::emo:

ok,well i thought i would give a little oppinion.When i used to come on here back in the day i used to be an ass cuz i had the same stuff happen to me.people answered my post cuz i was a noob and were really either mean or being a wise ass.like jake and joe i hated them,but i stuck around and just ignored them.there is no reason to go somewhere else cuz a few people are asses just note in your head that they were dicks and stay.i like mostly everyone on here now,its a cool place where we can all share what we know and help each other.i cant tell you how much money you guys here saved me,i learned how to do most of the basics on my car and save myself some cash from having to bring my car to the dealer.so i just wanted to give my 2 cents later guys ~joe

I may be a bit harsh, but when you get the same question asked 1000000 times you are bound too. Especially when there are two of the same exact questions on the page. We wouldn't have to be harsh with new people if they did two things, read the FAQ's and use search. If someone tells me they searched and couldn't find something, and I know it I'll be more than happy to tell them right away what the answer is and not give them any grief.

ok,well i thought i would give a little oppinion.When i used to come on here back in the day i used to be an ass cuz i had the same stuff happen to me.people answered my post cuz i was a noob and were really either mean or being a wise ass.like jake and joe i hated them,but i stuck around and just ignored them.there is no reason to go somewhere else cuz a few people are asses just note in your head that they were dicks and stay.i like mostly everyone on here now,its a cool place where we can all share what we know and help each other.i cant tell you how much money you guys here saved me,i learned how to do most of the basics on my car and save myself some cash from having to bring my car to the dealer.so i just wanted to give my 2 cents later guys ~joe

I basically did the same thing (ignored the bad posts). Hell I still act like a noob on here from time to time, just because I don't really know to much about my car....but on the other hand I learn SOOOOOO much from the guys here that are nice, and I thank you guys for that!