Difference in WS6 and a non WS6
jbizel
08-08-2006, 11:29 PM
I know very little about the TA's but I am starting to get into them. I was just wondering what the differences are between the ws6 and a non ws6? Thanks
TMC2k1
08-09-2006, 01:21 AM
Appearance wise you get that beautiful hood. Ram Air Intake as well right? Im not sure exactly i know its more powerful and has the hood
ikeyballz
08-09-2006, 05:36 AM
hood, springs, wider tires, spoiler, +15 or so hp from hood..
you can add
exhaust, oil cooler, shocks, etc etc..
you can add
exhaust, oil cooler, shocks, etc etc..
G-man422
08-09-2006, 07:08 AM
The ram air hood, wich lets you get the extra HP. plusss the upgrades already stated.
TMC2k1
08-09-2006, 08:39 AM
hood, springs, wider tires, spoiler, +15 or so hp from hood..
you can add
exhaust, oil cooler, shocks, etc etc..
WS6 and non WS6 have the same spoiler :p
you can add
exhaust, oil cooler, shocks, etc etc..
WS6 and non WS6 have the same spoiler :p
blue02ws6
08-09-2006, 12:39 PM
The only differences are hood, wheels, and springs. The hood does not make any difference in power though, you can do a simple mod and cut the bottom of the airbox and get the same power. The only thing you should think about when deciding between ws6 and non ws6 is if you want the hood.
2000LS1Z28
08-09-2006, 04:12 PM
As stated above the WS6 had ram air hood, less restrictive exhaust system, springs (Not sure of), 17" rims (275mm wide vs. 245mm wide), and I believe a beefier front sway bar. Luos can elaborate more.
Mr. Luos
08-09-2006, 05:51 PM
Front and rear sway bars I believe.
The main difference is roughly $3,000. :lol:
The main difference is roughly $3,000. :lol:
98BlackTransAm
08-09-2006, 06:53 PM
more of that $3k goes towards appearance differences than performance upgrades...but of course i'm gonna say that :lol: i just wish a regular trans am had a name instead of "non-ws6", like the maros have both z28 and SS. makes me :(
jbizel
08-09-2006, 11:03 PM
Thankyou to everyone who posted. I now know a lil bit more. Mr.Lous I like your video.
2000LS1Z28
08-09-2006, 11:30 PM
more of that $3k goes towards appearance differences than performance upgrades...but of course i'm gonna say that :lol: i just wish a regular trans am had a name instead of "non-ws6", like the maros have both z28 and SS. makes me :(
Yep in 20-30 years I think us WS6 owners will have a little more cha-ching value for our cars :grinyes:
Hopefully I can keep mine that long. I see that there is an increase in value of the WS6 already, and I might have a potential buyer for $17K. Dunno though.
Watch it go up $10 in 5 years. I'd be heated :banghead:
Yep in 20-30 years I think us WS6 owners will have a little more cha-ching value for our cars :grinyes:
Hopefully I can keep mine that long. I see that there is an increase in value of the WS6 already, and I might have a potential buyer for $17K. Dunno though.
Watch it go up $10 in 5 years. I'd be heated :banghead:
ikeyballz
08-10-2006, 05:07 AM
agreed.. with the SS :D
plus, idk if you get it in the WS6..but in the SS, you get that awesome SS emblem in the dash... =P
plus, idk if you get it in the WS6..but in the SS, you get that awesome SS emblem in the dash... =P
poormillionaire2
08-10-2006, 12:28 PM
You could always get the ram air hood for the regular TA, though. It would pretty much look the same. Just none of the other stuff.
98BlackTransAm
08-10-2006, 01:44 PM
the actual GM ws6 hood i believe is $1700 from the factory, unpainted. if i had that much $$ to throw at the car it'd def go towards performance mods.
G-man422
08-10-2006, 01:47 PM
^ yeah, i agree. thats way to much for a cosmetic enhancement IMHO.
blue02ws6
08-10-2006, 02:10 PM
the actual GM ws6 hood i believe is $1700 from the factory, unpainted. if i had that much $$ to throw at the car it'd def go towards performance mods.
You can get thm all day long for about $600. Aftermarket, but they look the same. Hell I have an original WS6 and I bought a WS9 outlaw raptor hood to replace the original. This was the day I picked it up fromgetting the new paintjob with the gunmetal on the hood, top halo, mirrors, and top of the wing. There were some fitment issuses but they are resolved now.
http://www.lapbs.com/pic1.JPG
You can get thm all day long for about $600. Aftermarket, but they look the same. Hell I have an original WS6 and I bought a WS9 outlaw raptor hood to replace the original. This was the day I picked it up fromgetting the new paintjob with the gunmetal on the hood, top halo, mirrors, and top of the wing. There were some fitment issuses but they are resolved now.
http://www.lapbs.com/pic1.JPG
Mr. Luos
08-10-2006, 05:41 PM
SLP eh??
Sorry.
Sorry.
98BlackTransAm
08-10-2006, 06:41 PM
You can get thm all day long for about $600. Aftermarket, but they look the same. Hell I have an original WS6 and I bought a WS9 outlaw raptor hood to replace the original. This was the day I picked it up fromgetting the new paintjob with the gunmetal on the hood, top halo, mirrors, and top of the wing. There were some fitment issuses but they are resolved now.
http://www.lapbs.com/pic1.JPG
the nostrils on the side are a little different but it still looks sharp. even for $600 worth of mods tho you can shave tenths of a second off in your 1/4 mile time which is what my preference would be over appearance.
http://www.lapbs.com/pic1.JPG
the nostrils on the side are a little different but it still looks sharp. even for $600 worth of mods tho you can shave tenths of a second off in your 1/4 mile time which is what my preference would be over appearance.
blue02ws6
08-10-2006, 09:35 PM
the nostrils on the side are a little different but it still looks sharp. even for $600 worth of mods tho you can shave tenths of a second off in your 1/4 mile time which is what my preference would be over appearance.
It is about 2 inches taller than a stock ram air hood and has the firehawk heat extractors. As for performance, I have some of that also...:grinyes:
It is about 2 inches taller than a stock ram air hood and has the firehawk heat extractors. As for performance, I have some of that also...:grinyes:
poormillionaire2
08-10-2006, 09:57 PM
If I had a TA, I would definately go for the Mecham hood. Its got those slats after the ram air.
http://www.mechamperformance.com/d_images/hoffmanTransAmHoodLG.jpg
http://www.mechamperformance.com/d_images/hoffmanTransAmHoodLG.jpg
blue02ws6
08-10-2006, 10:14 PM
If I had a TA, I would definately go for the Mecham hood. Its got those slats after the ram air.
If you see it in person it isn't that noticable until you are right on top of it. I like the stock one better even going down the road.
If you see it in person it isn't that noticable until you are right on top of it. I like the stock one better even going down the road.
Mr. Luos
08-10-2006, 10:23 PM
That Mecham hood is terrible.
ikeyballz
08-11-2006, 12:37 AM
is the slats real? cuz if it is its bad for night driving.. i had the reverse hood scoop on my 88 bird.. took off the vent cover, thinking hell itll make it cooler.. i could NOT drive it at night..
it would make my windows fog up every time i started it.
it would make my windows fog up every time i started it.
2000LS1Z28
08-12-2006, 03:08 AM
the actual GM ws6 hood i believe is $1700 from the factory, unpainted. if i had that much $$ to throw at the car it'd def go towards performance mods.
Huh, they sell them on ebay for $800. They are, of course, stolen, but still.
Everytime I see someone walking around my car late at night :mad:
Huh, they sell them on ebay for $800. They are, of course, stolen, but still.
Everytime I see someone walking around my car late at night :mad:
FormulaLT1
08-12-2006, 03:32 AM
That Mecham hood is terrible.
:iamwithst very possibly the ugliest body panel ever created for F-bodys.
:iamwithst very possibly the ugliest body panel ever created for F-bodys.
blindeyed
08-12-2006, 04:11 AM
:iamwithst very possibly the ugliest body panel ever created for F-bodys.
Nah shoot, that's nothing compared to this monstrousity
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/2263000-2263999/2263918_1_full.jpg
Apparently the guy is attempting to make a Fire-Maro. Here's his cardomain page:
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2263918
Nah shoot, that's nothing compared to this monstrousity
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/2263000-2263999/2263918_1_full.jpg
Apparently the guy is attempting to make a Fire-Maro. Here's his cardomain page:
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2263918
hotrod_chevyz
08-14-2006, 08:24 AM
On earlier models such as third gens, WS6 has rear disk brakes. Most other models didnt.
giddyup50
08-15-2006, 10:47 PM
more of that $3k goes towards appearance differences than performance upgrades...but of course i'm gonna say that :lol: i just wish a regular trans am had a name instead of "non-ws6", like the maros have both z28 and SS. makes me :(
Um...dude...the Camaro=Firebird, Z28=TransAm, SS=WS6. Non WS6 T/A's are called TransAms. I know you know this, I think maybe you just had a brain fart.
Um...dude...the Camaro=Firebird, Z28=TransAm, SS=WS6. Non WS6 T/A's are called TransAms. I know you know this, I think maybe you just had a brain fart.
hotrod_chevyz
08-15-2006, 11:50 PM
Mines called a Trans AM WS7, wich supposedly back in 1982 the only difference between the ws6 and ws7's was the fact that the ws7 has drum rear, ws6 has disk rear.
Im pretty sure mines a recaro edition because the vin number, as well as the little plate riveted in front of the radiator says it is. According to a site i joined up with dedicated to recaros, they did make some recaros with rear drum brakes, simply because they ran out of the disk rear axles that year.
My interior (excluding the dash) was replaced with a 1984 Camaro's, and the suspension was replaced with a 87' GTA except the disk rear axle, before i ever owned it. So i never saw the car in original form. It was also painted solid black with hot pink trim when i got it, and badged with the GTA emblems, but as we all know GTA wasnt heard of back in 82. The previous owner told me the car was owned by a local pro race car drivers wife before he bought it.
I also found that when i stripped the body for a new coat of paint, it was originally black and gold like recaros, wich further made me believe i just happened upon a recaro by accident. They painted right over the gold paint but still to this day when you open the doors you can see the gold paint inside the door jam.
What this story teaches is the fact that on a used car you never know what you have until you learn its history. Its not what it WAS, its what it IS that counts. After I got it I again changed the interior and suspension, engine, and basically everything but the actual shell of the car. Right now its a 87 GTA(minus rear disk) with a 1970 chevelle engine. Thats what it is, it makes no nevermind what it started out as.
Im pretty sure mines a recaro edition because the vin number, as well as the little plate riveted in front of the radiator says it is. According to a site i joined up with dedicated to recaros, they did make some recaros with rear drum brakes, simply because they ran out of the disk rear axles that year.
My interior (excluding the dash) was replaced with a 1984 Camaro's, and the suspension was replaced with a 87' GTA except the disk rear axle, before i ever owned it. So i never saw the car in original form. It was also painted solid black with hot pink trim when i got it, and badged with the GTA emblems, but as we all know GTA wasnt heard of back in 82. The previous owner told me the car was owned by a local pro race car drivers wife before he bought it.
I also found that when i stripped the body for a new coat of paint, it was originally black and gold like recaros, wich further made me believe i just happened upon a recaro by accident. They painted right over the gold paint but still to this day when you open the doors you can see the gold paint inside the door jam.
What this story teaches is the fact that on a used car you never know what you have until you learn its history. Its not what it WAS, its what it IS that counts. After I got it I again changed the interior and suspension, engine, and basically everything but the actual shell of the car. Right now its a 87 GTA(minus rear disk) with a 1970 chevelle engine. Thats what it is, it makes no nevermind what it started out as.
Orion2247
08-16-2006, 01:06 AM
i just wish a regular trans am had a name instead of "non-ws6", like the maros have both z28 and SS. makes me :(
The regular Trans Am option name is WS7
The regular Trans Am option name is WS7
98BlackTransAm
08-16-2006, 02:55 PM
Um...dude...the Camaro=Firebird, Z28=TransAm, SS=WS6. Non WS6 T/A's are called TransAms. I know you know this, I think maybe you just had a brain fart.
so is there an ls1 camaro model that isnt a z28 or SS, but just "camaro". like 3.8 firebird -> formula -> trans am -> ws6? thanks
so is there an ls1 camaro model that isnt a z28 or SS, but just "camaro". like 3.8 firebird -> formula -> trans am -> ws6? thanks
ikeyballz
08-16-2006, 03:54 PM
what? lol
if it says 'camaro' on the side, its only a V6'er (4th gens)
if it says Z28 on the side. its a V8 w.o the ramair/etc
if it says SS on the side, its a V8 with all the little toys
if it says 'firebird' on the side, its only a V6
if it says Formula on the side, its a V8 that looks like a V6
if it says TRans Am its a v8 that looks like a V8..?
if its a WS6 its eithier a trans am or a formula with little toys..
if it says 'camaro' on the side, its only a V6'er (4th gens)
if it says Z28 on the side. its a V8 w.o the ramair/etc
if it says SS on the side, its a V8 with all the little toys
if it says 'firebird' on the side, its only a V6
if it says Formula on the side, its a V8 that looks like a V6
if it says TRans Am its a v8 that looks like a V8..?
if its a WS6 its eithier a trans am or a formula with little toys..
98BlackTransAm
08-17-2006, 08:05 AM
what? lol
if it says 'camaro' on the side, its only a V6'er (4th gens)
if it says Z28 on the side. its a V8 w.o the ramair/etc
if it says SS on the side, its a V8 with all the little toys
if it says 'firebird' on the side, its only a V6
if it says Formula on the side, its a V8 that looks like a V6
if it says TRans Am its a v8 that looks like a V8..?
if its a WS6 its eithier a trans am or a formula with little toys..
haha aight that's what i thought,, just makin sure. i'll shut up now :lol:
if it says 'camaro' on the side, its only a V6'er (4th gens)
if it says Z28 on the side. its a V8 w.o the ramair/etc
if it says SS on the side, its a V8 with all the little toys
if it says 'firebird' on the side, its only a V6
if it says Formula on the side, its a V8 that looks like a V6
if it says TRans Am its a v8 that looks like a V8..?
if its a WS6 its eithier a trans am or a formula with little toys..
haha aight that's what i thought,, just makin sure. i'll shut up now :lol:
ikeyballz
08-18-2006, 03:48 AM
hahah..yeah i was confused about that too tho.. so if you ever see a camaro/firebird with SS/WS6 hoods and stuff and you see 'camaro' you know its a V6 ;D just like how mustangs with V6's never have 'GT' on em :D
giddyup50
08-20-2006, 08:37 PM
I was starting to wonder what your question was, I was getting confused. Yes, Ikey is correct, that's what I was saying, he just went into more detail.
I hate to be a smart-ass however, you spelled "allright" wrong. Please tell me you don't wear your pants 10 sizes too big with your underwear showing at the top?!
Sorry man, just giving you crap, it's my job.
I hate to be a smart-ass however, you spelled "allright" wrong. Please tell me you don't wear your pants 10 sizes too big with your underwear showing at the top?!
Sorry man, just giving you crap, it's my job.
98gpking
08-24-2006, 06:54 PM
the actual GM ws6 hood i believe is $1700 from the factory, unpainted. if i had that much $$ to throw at the car it'd def go towards performance mods.
your all forgetting a pretty important fact. i know whe ni had my WS-6 the 3:42 gears were an option. i believe non came with 3:23 but i do know rear end gears were and option. but thats not specific to a WS-6 but if your gonna get the WS-6 dont be a wuss and beef up the rear end and get the better launch
your all forgetting a pretty important fact. i know whe ni had my WS-6 the 3:42 gears were an option. i believe non came with 3:23 but i do know rear end gears were and option. but thats not specific to a WS-6 but if your gonna get the WS-6 dont be a wuss and beef up the rear end and get the better launch
blue02ws6
08-24-2006, 07:43 PM
your all forgetting a pretty important fact. i know whe ni had my WS-6 the 3:42 gears were an option. i believe non came with 3:23 but i do know rear end gears were and option. but thats not specific to a WS-6 but if your gonna get the WS-6 dont be a wuss and beef up the rear end and get the better launch
All manuals had 3.42's there were no options. The auto's did have an option of 3.23's which most were made that way but there are a few out there with 2.73's and those came with steel driveshafts instead of alum ones.
All manuals had 3.42's there were no options. The auto's did have an option of 3.23's which most were made that way but there are a few out there with 2.73's and those came with steel driveshafts instead of alum ones.
98gpking
08-25-2006, 08:38 AM
All manuals had 3.42's there were no options. The auto's did have an option of 3.23's which most were made that way but there are a few out there with 2.73's and those came with steel driveshafts instead of alum ones.
hey blue 02ws6 that hoods not stock is it.??? from the angle of your picture the cowls look to be raised a little.
well i couldnt tell if mine were the stock 3:42's some guy on ebay was selling a 1996 WS-6 just like mine and he said that was an option. although something tells me they didnt put 3:42 gears by Richmond for stock lol. i guess im kinda going by what i was told.
hey blue 02ws6 that hoods not stock is it.??? from the angle of your picture the cowls look to be raised a little.
well i couldnt tell if mine were the stock 3:42's some guy on ebay was selling a 1996 WS-6 just like mine and he said that was an option. although something tells me they didnt put 3:42 gears by Richmond for stock lol. i guess im kinda going by what i was told.
blue02ws6
08-25-2006, 06:18 PM
Nope it's not stock. It is a WS9 outlaw hood made by a guy in Cali. I loved the look of the hood and had to get it.
hey blue 02ws6 that hoods not stock is it.??? from the angle of your picture the cowls look to be raised a little.
well i couldnt tell if mine were the stock 3:42's some guy on ebay was selling a 1996 WS-6 just like mine and he said that was an option. although something tells me they didnt put 3:42 gears by Richmond for stock lol. i guess im kinda going by what i was told.
hey blue 02ws6 that hoods not stock is it.??? from the angle of your picture the cowls look to be raised a little.
well i couldnt tell if mine were the stock 3:42's some guy on ebay was selling a 1996 WS-6 just like mine and he said that was an option. although something tells me they didnt put 3:42 gears by Richmond for stock lol. i guess im kinda going by what i was told.
98gpking
08-25-2006, 06:26 PM
Nope it's not stock. It is a WS9 outlaw hood made by a guy in Cali. I loved the look of the hood and had to get it.
its like 1400 dollar hood isnt it i think i saw it on ebay before. i wish my old ta could use that hood i would have bought it for sure
its like 1400 dollar hood isnt it i think i saw it on ebay before. i wish my old ta could use that hood i would have bought it for sure
Mr. Luos
08-25-2006, 06:35 PM
I found a new one for around $700 if I remember right.
I was considering putting that hood on my WS.6.
Then decided that $$ went better towards the Moser 9".
I was considering putting that hood on my WS.6.
Then decided that $$ went better towards the Moser 9".
blue02ws6
08-25-2006, 06:38 PM
I found a new one for around $700 if I remember right.
I was considering putting that hood on my WS.6.
Then decided that $$ went better towards the Moser 9".
Yeah I think it is about $700. My friend started a few group purchases for the guy and got two free and I got one of them though...:grinyes: I gave him like $200 for the hood. I already had a 12-bolt though....now I get to buy a rear for my new toy.
http://www.lapbs.com/myvette1.jpg
I was considering putting that hood on my WS.6.
Then decided that $$ went better towards the Moser 9".
Yeah I think it is about $700. My friend started a few group purchases for the guy and got two free and I got one of them though...:grinyes: I gave him like $200 for the hood. I already had a 12-bolt though....now I get to buy a rear for my new toy.
http://www.lapbs.com/myvette1.jpg
Mr. Luos
08-25-2006, 06:47 PM
A Z06 was a serious consideration recently.
Decided to drop in a stroker instead. Just a love affair with the T/A I guess.
Nice ride though!!!
Congrats!!
My roommate has a 2002 Z06....SOB is running 13 flat here at Bandimere (5800 feet) with an air filter and Bassani catback. Nothing else...even on the stock tires.
Equates to roughly a 11.9-12.1 at sea level.
Decided to drop in a stroker instead. Just a love affair with the T/A I guess.
Nice ride though!!!
Congrats!!
My roommate has a 2002 Z06....SOB is running 13 flat here at Bandimere (5800 feet) with an air filter and Bassani catback. Nothing else...even on the stock tires.
Equates to roughly a 11.9-12.1 at sea level.
blue02ws6
08-25-2006, 06:56 PM
A Z06 was a serious consideration recently.
Decided to drop in a stroker instead. Just a love affair with the T/A I guess.
Nice ride though!!!
Congrats!!
My roommate has a 2002 Z06....SOB is running 13 flat here at Bandimere (5800 feet) with an air filter and Bassani catback. Nothing else...even on the stock tires.
Equates to roughly a 11.9-12.1 at sea level.
Man, I loved my TA, but I hav to say that the vettes are FAR superior in comfort and ride. I couldn't believe how much nicer they are and I had full suspension on my TA. Soon the vette should have about 470+rwhp in a 3000lb car, that should be fun.:grinyes: Still have the NX wet kit also to go on top of that too.
Decided to drop in a stroker instead. Just a love affair with the T/A I guess.
Nice ride though!!!
Congrats!!
My roommate has a 2002 Z06....SOB is running 13 flat here at Bandimere (5800 feet) with an air filter and Bassani catback. Nothing else...even on the stock tires.
Equates to roughly a 11.9-12.1 at sea level.
Man, I loved my TA, but I hav to say that the vettes are FAR superior in comfort and ride. I couldn't believe how much nicer they are and I had full suspension on my TA. Soon the vette should have about 470+rwhp in a 3000lb car, that should be fun.:grinyes: Still have the NX wet kit also to go on top of that too.
Mr. Luos
08-25-2006, 06:58 PM
Yeah....that will be fun!!!!
98gpking
08-25-2006, 07:15 PM
I found a new one for around $700 if I remember right.
I was considering putting that hood on my WS.6.
Then decided that $$ went better towards the Moser 9".
a moser 9 is much more prefered then a hod in my book lol. very nice choice
I was considering putting that hood on my WS.6.
Then decided that $$ went better towards the Moser 9".
a moser 9 is much more prefered then a hod in my book lol. very nice choice
Mr. Luos
08-25-2006, 07:17 PM
Heavy bastard....
But I love it.
The 4.11's are GREAT compared to the 3.42's.
Plus...the strength is nice too. :lol:
But I love it.
The 4.11's are GREAT compared to the 3.42's.
Plus...the strength is nice too. :lol:
hasvold
09-03-2006, 06:58 PM
yeah, the ws.6 has better suspension, sideskirts, raised spoiler, 17'' rims, i believe 245mm tires all around. As far as the hood, it's ram air forced induction which is about 15 horespwer more, and like 99% of ws.6's have t-tops. I've actually seen them without, very rare. but the ws.6 performance package basically has all of the extra mods and are usually 6 speed manuals.
blue02ws6
09-04-2006, 12:46 AM
yeah, the ws.6 has better suspension, sideskirts, raised spoiler, 17'' rims, i believe 245mm tires all around. As far as the hood, it's ram air forced induction which is about 15 horespwer more, and like 99% of ws.6's have t-tops. I've actually seen them without, very rare. but the ws.6 performance package basically has all of the extra mods and are usually 6 speed manuals.
The regular TA has the same spoiler, sideskirts, and 17" rims. The hood isn't worth 15hp. Cutting the bottomof the airbox is better than a ram air hood by far.The airbox is a little taller on the WS6 though.
The regular TA has the same spoiler, sideskirts, and 17" rims. The hood isn't worth 15hp. Cutting the bottomof the airbox is better than a ram air hood by far.The airbox is a little taller on the WS6 though.
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