06 TAMIYA MODEL SHOW with SLR sample pics

auw12

08-08-2006, 09:00 AM

Katsura

08-08-2006, 09:36 AM

Sorry, can't see the pics. do you have direct link? Or try hosting on imageshack.us

Technoman

08-08-2006, 09:38 AM

The old Tamiya LP5000S still has one of the best looks of any Lambo produced in 1/24. Sure, detail is very simple but they look awesome with a great stance and proportions and are a nice, easy and quick build. I think the Carrera GT in transparent body is also a great idea, much like THe F50, CLK-GTR etc etc before it. The fact that Tamiya make models that allow for a transparent body to look right on it is a testament to the level of the detail they produce 'under the covers' (not on all models obviously).

I admit, I would love for Tamiya to be more adventorous in their choice of subjects and to steer clear of diecast chassis etc. But I can only assume that the mass market they want to appeal to will live with and possibly even demand these things. If they really wanted to make me excited, I would love to see them produce more 1/12 models in the mould of the 935, but that is a seriously expensive undertaking. Man would I love to see some BMW E30 M3's in road and racing guises to be produced in that scale. Fujimi di an ok job in releasing the R32 in that scale with various livery options, I just know that Tamiya could do it better.

Vric

08-08-2006, 09:39 AM

Pictures don't like to be hotlinked. (it's verrry slow..)

ZoomZoomMX-5

08-08-2006, 09:49 AM

Everyone's dying to see the kit, and here we have no pictures to see at all :banghead:

:useless:

Sorry, had to :icon16:

Please figure a way to show us the pictures.

Katsura

08-08-2006, 09:58 AM

Decs0105

08-08-2006, 10:17 AM

Katsura

08-08-2006, 10:23 AM

Will the clear CGT a regular kit or just a special edition (not for sale). I also saw a transparent Enzo but it never became a "availible"...

SLR doors look funny :iceslolan, I am pretty sure they will fix this in the final version!

Probably a limited edition as the serial number seem to be the same, I think the 80XXX sereial numbers are for "regular" special edition releases

auw12

08-08-2006, 10:29 AM

sorry guys i'll move the pics to photobucket and try again very soon.

ZoomZoomMX-5

08-08-2006, 10:56 AM

Thanks for the pictures.

I have yet to be impressed with opening doors on a 1/24 scale model car. They rarely, if ever, fit properly and I'd rather look at a model all closed up. I'm not impressed by gizmos, I'd rather see a well-proportioned body without bad gaps. There's a reason I'll probably build a Revell Enzo long before a Tamiya, if I bother to build an Enzo at all. I have yet to see a Tamiya Enzo with everything closed and fitting properly. :banghead: Of course a real Enzo looks better all opened up. Not the greatest Ferrari design if it looks better open than closed :shakehead

Needless to say, this SLR just isn't for me, maybe Revell will do one that's not so expensive (SLR is 800 yen more than an Enzo), not going after the gizmo market, and without a dumbed-down undercarriage to satisfy diecast collectors :shakehead Or maybe I'll just live w/the fact that I won't be building an SLR. Worse things can happen :icon16:

gasman03

08-08-2006, 11:00 AM

pictures look fine to me.

I'm still not sure if i'm gonna get a SLR or not, I wanna see what the kit actually looks like until I buy one

I am going to get one of those Lambo's though, I've been wanting to build that body style Lambo for a while now. so i'm happy to see it reissued

D_LaMz

08-08-2006, 11:06 AM

The lambo bring back is cool

Guiddy

08-08-2006, 11:06 AM

Hmmmm, nice SLR but getting a bored of seeing it with so many good DieCasts out now. More keen on what I could do with it, like the new 722 version of the SLR or something!
http://www.wheels24.co.za/Images/Photos/20060711082956SLR722.jpg

opel56

08-08-2006, 11:08 AM

the Tamiya Carrera GT with clear body panls looks sweet! i might just pick one up!

ZoomZoomMX-5

08-08-2006, 11:09 AM

The lambo bring back is cool

Yes it is; it was a pretty popular kit way back when it was new :)

I wish Tamiya would reissue the Long Beach Grand Prix Supra kit; even if they ditched the marshall's car gizmos and just gave us the LHD Supra w/the fender flares. It's so much better looking than the MPC Supra.

winstona

08-08-2006, 11:09 AM

Thanks for the pictures! I wonder why they don't fix the doors before displaying it. Or they should display it with open doors.

Winston

auw12

08-08-2006, 11:57 AM

i agree with guys,especially ZOOMZOOM.i prefer a well-proportioned closed up body too.and the plated body kit is the mater what i can never accept,it's idiotic for a company like TAMIYA IMO.

TireGaint

08-08-2006, 02:19 PM

Thanks for the pics, hope they will fix the doors.

willimo

08-08-2006, 02:44 PM

I hate to burst the bash-on-Tamiya bubble (again), but metal plated and clear bodies are something that Tamiya has been doing for years. A lot of other companies do clear bodied kits, too, not just on cars, either, but on planes and things like that. It's not a new idea, and while I don't think most builders pay money for them, it's not another nail in Tamiya's coffin. I also am of the mind that the opening doors on this kit will be cool. If it was just a regular car with regular opening doors, then fine. But this car, like the Enzo and the Opel DTM cars before them, have cool enough doors to warrant having a model kit where the doors open. I think it will be rad.

I agree, mostly, that it would be great if Tamiya would start really tooling up and making lots of neat new models. But only because it would be great if we all got what we wanted tooled up. I think, though, between Tamiya and their amazing supercar kits, and Aoshima and Fujimi filling in the rest of the space with better and better kits of everything else, that all the complaining is kind of moot at this point.

Now if somebody would just make a kit of the 2006 Si....

MidMazar

08-08-2006, 03:01 PM

i agree with guys,especially ZOOMZOOM.i prefer a well-proportioned closed up body too.and the plated body kit is the mater what i can never accept,it's idiotic for a company like TAMIYA IMO.

I also agree, but the doors can always be fixed. Diecast chasis, well thats another story. The body looks good from what i can see. If this kit does come with a dieeeeecast chasis and a badly detailed engine bay, then i probably won't get this kit for a while. Too much money for me, id rather buy a rare old kit that has a badly proportioned body for that price. It would be nice though if sms came out with a super detail kit for the slr, but i think they just wouldn't want to waste their time. I could be wrong though. I personally think tamiya is falling off slowly from the car scene.
As for the clear bodies, only make em for very detailed cars. Which they have been (enzo, Benz, f40,etc). Its an old idea, but they should spend money on creating more cars instead of making clear bodies. In the end it always comes down to money.

Chuck Kourouklis

08-08-2006, 03:50 PM

Yo, ZoomZoom -

It was an ugly duckling fit-assessment build for that last ranking article, so it wasn't suitable for photos. But my Tamiya Enzo actually enjoyed the best opening panel fit I've ever seen in a 1/24 car. The only problem I had was marginally uneven gaps between the roof panel and the top edges of the doors, and if I had knocked off the locating pins and repositioned the roof panel, it probably would have taken care of that problem.

Of course, that was without paint. And the tolerances seemed so tight, they might indeed be affected by finishing agents.

Meantime, I just kinda gotta grin at forum extremes. On one hand, we've got hysterical old ladies hedging their petticoats against ANY critical deflowering of AMT's virtue. And on the other, we've got builders rabid enough to go for - zounds, say it ain't so - Tamiya's jugular??

**GASP**

Well hush my mouth.

:dogpile:

Now as for the SLR, it looks to me like the doors are merely a few degrees off their pivot axes. Or, in terms of suspension geometry, it appears they have a bit too much positive camber relative to their hinge attachments - seems like they'd fit well, otherwise, and it may just be a small tweak to get them back in line.

Then again, for fifty bucks...

mikemechanic

08-08-2006, 09:04 PM

Well we bitched when there was no SLR and now we bitch when there is an SLR. No wonder model companies that snoop around on the net are just doing rereleases and no new subjects. I am totally appalled at the Tamiya bashing around here as of late. Tamiya does some top-notch work as far as I'm concerned, how many times have you had to fight with a Tamiya to get all 4 wheels to sit on the ground, for me never, try that with an AMT/Revellogram. I for one can't wait for the SLR to arrive at my doorstep and only then once I have the kit will I make an opinion, not from some blurry pics posted on the net. I wouldnt be surprised if Tamiya just cancelled the project all together after reading the comments in the SLR threads.

I'm sure that once Rallyraider, robrex, kunta, hiroboy or CADguy (or the many other great modelers here) get there hands on one of these kits and build it all the naysayers will be lined up for it at thier LHS. Lets leave Tamiya alone untill we actually have this kit in our hands and try to build it. Just my 2 cents.

BVC500

08-08-2006, 11:21 PM

speaking of re-releases, Tamiya needs to re-release the Mercedes S600 coupe because I can't find one any where to buy. I look on ebay every day but no luck.

Lurchio

08-09-2006, 07:35 AM

Well we bitched when there was no SLR and now we bitch when there is an SLR. No wonder model companies that snoop around on the net are just doing rereleases and no new subjects. I am totally appalled at the Tamiya bashing around here as of late.

Here here, can't you lot find something constructive to discsuss, who cares whether or not you buy the kit!
As Mike said, it's what you do with the kit that counts.
Some of the best builds I've ever seen on this site come from awful base kits!

Chuck Kourouklis

08-09-2006, 01:21 PM

Now guys, I'll happily cede that gripes against Tamiya are rather more frivolous than gripes against AMT, but come on.

You really mean to suggest Tamiya will sink untold millions of yen (hundreds of thousands of dollars/euros) into tooling for a new SLR, then refuse to amortize that tooling by producing the kit? All out of a snit over criticism on an online forum??

What in Tamiya's history has indicated such a colossal extreme of stupidity? (Well, besides that newly ubiquitous diecast chassis? :evillol: )

Sorry, gentlemen, but that's the very attitude I was lampooning with the AMT apologists. Sure, some people go overboard - but you can occasionally call a spade a spade without impugning your own building skills or expecting a tantrum from the manufacturer.

ZoomZoomMX-5

08-09-2006, 02:05 PM

Yay Chuck! Tell it like it is!

Tamiya isn't about to quit making model kits because of criticism of their products on some internet boards. No manufacturer runs away from critique; the better ones face it head-on to keep their customers happy and buying their product. They balance the desires of the consumers with the realities of running a business. I'm just one voice of criticism. I've defended Revell many times right here against an onslaught of ridiculous criticism when they've been unfairly branded as "crap" when much of what they make is anything but. Yet they haven't run away and hid when people on the 'net make stupid and ignorant remarks about their products.

If one wants a good glimpse into the mind of Mr. Tamiya and how he sees the business, read the new IPMS Journal, where there is a two-page interview with him. Licensing is the biggest obstacle to making a kit, not manufacturing. He's dying to make a B-17 kit, but because the US automakers started the whole royalty-fee generation scheme, it's infected companies like Boeing and now model companies cannot justify the crushing licensing fees demanded to make a kit. I'm sure a huge part of the high cost of the SLR is due to licensing fees, not manufacturing costs (Tamiya uses a factory in the Phillipines to tool/produce the kits). That's not Tamiya's fault. But it can't stop people from crying "uncle" when they feel the price of entry has gotten so steep that they don't feel they want to spend the money for a particular kit.

Cold_Fire

08-09-2006, 02:53 PM

Don't know if you have seen this guys, there are some pics of engine, interior and underpanel:

http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/item.php?product-id=24290

MidMazar

08-09-2006, 03:11 PM

MY nightmares are true, dieeecast chasis with no detail at all.

patoffspyder

08-09-2006, 03:57 PM

MY nightmares are true, dieeecast chasis with no detail at all.

Yes, but body, interior, wheels and engine look great. I prefer that over a full detailed chassis.

willimo

08-09-2006, 03:57 PM

From what I can tell in the photos, and aside from the diecast chassis (which is probably the only valid criticism of Tamiya), it will be a fabulous kit. This car personally gets me more excited than does the ugly duckling Enzo and the kind of weird, uninspiring, not really Porsche-looking Cararararara.

And all else considered, I just recieved the AMT 68 Camaro and Revell 06 Corvette in the mail, and was pleasantly surprised by both. I just wish US manufacturers could learn to mold as crisply as their Japanese counterparts (and learn to use 1:24). When that happens, everything will be right with the world, and there will be no more griping to be had.

Rickard_Olsson

08-09-2006, 07:20 PM

Hey what´s up with the Subaru.. is it chrome plating? could be cool.. allthough you don´t keep it that way.. and something REALLY cool.. TRANSPARENT RIMS on the Carrera GT ! :D

WRC_413X

08-10-2006, 09:48 PM

I just wish US manufacturers could learn to mold as crisply as their Japanese counterparts (and learn to use 1:24). When that happens, everything will be right with the world, and there will be no more griping to be had.

Thats really what im lookin for, n if tamiya would knock off the diecast stuff thad be swell as well, i wonder tho, doesnt it cost more on there part to make a metal chasis than a plastic one?...

But on the plus side tamiya has released an otherwise nicely detailed kit that is considered well workable, and in other pics of the SLR the doors closed fine.

I'm sure a huge part of the high cost of the SLR is due to licensing fees, not manufacturing costs (Tamiya uses a factory in the Phillipines to tool/produce the kits). That's not Tamiya's fault.

With the amount of money that tamiya makes its not hard to physically make a kit. The unfortunate part is most likely the legal issues. It would be an incredible amount of money, hundreds of thousands per model im sure(if they can get them at all), for Tamiya to just pay for fees to whip out a new model of a new car. Another thing is about the occassional griping about new kit releases. Say when 2007 cars started and are, that a company like Tamiya would just go and make a new kit for all the kickass cars or trucks worthy of modelmaking nvm the different versions or styles of them right off the bat or within a year or so. That is a lot of money to invest on a lot of different items, and it will take time to see the profit from it. now think of doing that every year or so? They just have to watch their investments and try best to deal with legal issues like any other good company. Its better to release and make what they can when they can for new products. And in the mean time if they want to rerelease or make different versions of kits they already have licensing for and tooling for, that can satisfy modelers i think thats great. At least definatly better than absolutly nothing coming from Tamiya in the meantime. my:2cents:

speaking of clear rims lol
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e167/Jangofett787/dorsetoinvisiblerims17hk.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e167/Jangofett787/dorsetoinvisiblerims17hk2.jpg

exhaust smoke

08-12-2006, 10:23 AM

Thanks for the pictures.

Tamiya have got the body spot on. I would be interested to see how they have rendered the die cast chassis into this kit.

Decs0105

08-13-2006, 03:14 AM

Does anybody have a pic of the real SLR Chassis?

Now there's only one question left, what about the statement with the half engine on the diecast chassis...

interior is pretty accurate :iceslolan
http://www.tamiyausa.com/images/product/210/24290/gallery_3.jpg http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/88/52588/400_6565323833636233.jpg

ZoomZoomMX-5

08-13-2006, 07:15 AM

I must say that even though the model is overly expensive (likely because of Mercedes/McLaren greedy licensing fees) and has a diecast chassis, the model as a whole looks quite nice and should satisfy the diehard modelers that really want it. I'm sure we'll be seeing some great ones built and on display here.

Funny, I wouldn't even be complaining about the 4000 yen price or the diecast chassis if it were a Mercedes Benz CLS 63 AMG :icon16: Sexiest 4 door on the planet :sunglasse

auw12

08-13-2006, 08:25 AM

i DO agree with you zoom-zoom!fortunately it's not the cls.

Mike 04' RS

08-13-2006, 11:08 AM

FYI guys.
That Tamiya Clear View CGT is NOT a new kit.

Ive had a clear view CGT sitting beside me here for months now :) It is a limited edition that i managed to snab off ebay, and im sure they only got given out at trade fairs.

I hope it dosnt turn into a full production kit, kinda would ruin it for me then :)

hirofkd

08-13-2006, 12:28 PM

None of those odd kits are regular products, and are only available in limited basis, usually at Tamiya fairs and hobby shows. Tamiya USA lists the clear body Carrera GT as an upcoming product, but the item number suggests that it'll be a limited run.

Personally, the diecast chassis of the SLR-McLaren kit is a fair representation of the flat underbody of the real car, except for the front suspension arms which should be separate.

The engine room is most likely the bathtub-type with a few additional layers to add the sense of depth (like CLK DTM), and probably not as detailed as the Enzo kit or even Carrera GT.

4200 yen is a lot of money, but I still appreciate Tamiya for releasing the kit.

EDIT: OOPS, after close examination, the front suspension arms are indeed separate. The under panel is quite accurate.

ferrari2k

08-14-2006, 10:17 AM

I really would like to build that SLR, looks nice to me.
I never heard of an "clear-view" Enzo, shall be nice looking that thing ;)
Carrera GT clear will be too expensive for me, but I have another question:
What does "diecast-chassis" mean?

Technoman

08-14-2006, 11:32 AM

Cold_Fire

08-16-2006, 03:41 AM

SLR release has been delayed till september, or at least that's said in HLJ website :(

cyclone1410

08-16-2006, 04:12 AM

Initially the transparent CGT was only available form a hobby show in Japan and people paid a premium for them on eBay. I almost pulled the trigger myself. If it is being listed by Tamiya with a new model then it will almost definitely be readily available, albeit in a limited run..

The clear Enzo was initially given out at special events and then became a limited edition model that was available from a number of suppliers including HLJ. I bought one of these myself actually. I would imagine the same will apply for the CGT and the bike. It must be economies of scale in producing the kit - they have to make a certain number (box art, etc) to make it worthwhile. Some for giveaways or for sale at special events and the rest sold by selected suppliers.

Stubeck

08-16-2006, 05:54 AM

Any more details on the subaru?

hirofkd

08-16-2006, 09:19 AM

SLR release has been delayed till september, or at least that's said in HLJ website :(
I just checked Tamiya website. It says the shippint date is September 6th.

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