92 Le Sabre Quits Running
deanerickson
08-06-2006, 02:43 PM
I have a 92 Le Sabre 3.8 that just shuts down as if you turned off the key.
Any suggestions as to the problem?
Any suggestions as to the problem?
grcore
08-06-2006, 03:29 PM
Could be the PCM....
rustbucket
08-07-2006, 12:57 PM
A little more infomation.. Can it be restarted right away? How often does it happen? what are the conditions hot/cold/speed/? Hows it run otherwise?
1988 buick lesabre
08-10-2006, 09:05 PM
i have a 1988 buick lesabre that is spitting out code 043. The car just quits on me sometimes and won't restart for about an hour or so. I changed the electronic spark module but that didn't do it. Any ideas
spinne1
08-11-2006, 11:51 PM
I have a 92 Le Sabre 3.8 that just shuts down as if you turned off the key.
Any suggestions as to the problem?
Could be the crank sensor, ignition module, PCM, VATS anti-theft system, or something else.
What codes do you get?
You really need to take it to a dealer to diagnose it properly (then refuse the repair and fix it yourself).
Any suggestions as to the problem?
Could be the crank sensor, ignition module, PCM, VATS anti-theft system, or something else.
What codes do you get?
You really need to take it to a dealer to diagnose it properly (then refuse the repair and fix it yourself).
Alibi
08-12-2006, 12:02 AM
I have a 92 Le Sabre 3.8 that just shuts down as if you turned off the key.
Any suggestions as to the problem?
You really need to take it to a dealer to diagnose it properly (then refuse the repair and fix it yourself).
Nah, you don't need a stealership to look at it. OBD1 stuff requires a paperclip :) (http://www.lesabret.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=1201)
It is close to impossible to give a decent diagnosis without codes.
Any suggestions as to the problem?
You really need to take it to a dealer to diagnose it properly (then refuse the repair and fix it yourself).
Nah, you don't need a stealership to look at it. OBD1 stuff requires a paperclip :) (http://www.lesabret.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=1201)
It is close to impossible to give a decent diagnosis without codes.
Bassasasin
08-12-2006, 12:05 AM
Need more clues..truely... dash lights etc.. if all electrical dies too. .then I suspect your power circuit. If just quits running.. then other stuff. .. Do you see where this can go.. lots of places.
Sorry. No magic fixes...
Sorry. No magic fixes...
spinne1
08-12-2006, 12:14 AM
Nah, you don't need a stealership to look at it. OBD1 stuff requires a paperclip :) (http://www.lesabret.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=1201)
It is close to impossible to give a decent diagnosis without codes.
Getting the engine codes using a paper clip and getting a proper diagnosis at a dealer are two very different things. I have always used the paper clip method and it has helped very often, but I have had to drag my car to the dealer or solve my problems other ways for problems that were not revealed using the paper clip via the engine codes, such as when I had a bad ignition module, or when my light control module went bad. Often, the codes simply lead you to a huge tree of tests you need to run that MUST be run at a dealer (unless you happen to have multi-thousand dollar equipment around). A good example is transmission troubles. Have you seen the tests required to properly diagnose one? You need this machine that only a dealer would have and a littany of tests using the machine. This stuff can generally not be duplicated using just a hand held multi-meter.
It is close to impossible to give a decent diagnosis without codes.
Getting the engine codes using a paper clip and getting a proper diagnosis at a dealer are two very different things. I have always used the paper clip method and it has helped very often, but I have had to drag my car to the dealer or solve my problems other ways for problems that were not revealed using the paper clip via the engine codes, such as when I had a bad ignition module, or when my light control module went bad. Often, the codes simply lead you to a huge tree of tests you need to run that MUST be run at a dealer (unless you happen to have multi-thousand dollar equipment around). A good example is transmission troubles. Have you seen the tests required to properly diagnose one? You need this machine that only a dealer would have and a littany of tests using the machine. This stuff can generally not be duplicated using just a hand held multi-meter.
Alibi
08-12-2006, 12:29 AM
Getting the engine codes using a paper clip and getting a proper diagnosis at a dealer are two very different things. I have always used the paper clip method and it has helped very often, but I have had to drag my car to the dealer or solve my problems other ways for problems that were not revealed using the paper clip via the engine codes, such as when I had a bad ignition module, or when my light control module went bad. Often, the codes simply lead you to a huge tree of tests you need to run that MUST be run at a dealer (unless you happen to have multi-thousand dollar equipment around). A good example is transmission troubles. Have you seen the tests required to properly diagnose one? You need this machine that only a dealer would have and a littany of tests using the machine. This stuff can generally not be duplicated using just a hand held multi-meter.
True, not all issues can be solved based on just engine codes. However, I'm on my 5th GM OBD1 car (ok, one was for parts so that doesn't really count but if you count the 2 others in my family that I've worked on then its 7) and have never had to take any of them to the dealer. A bit of common sense and trouble shooting, as well as forum searches here for similar issues, can get you a loooong way on repairs. Granted, I've bought a couple parts that I ended up not needing but considering the amount of money I've saved in the long run I'd say it was worth it.
That or I just haven't run accross something I can't run down yet :) Even then, I'd rather take my car to a reputable private shop vs a stealership.
...just the rantings of a poor college student :banghead:
True, not all issues can be solved based on just engine codes. However, I'm on my 5th GM OBD1 car (ok, one was for parts so that doesn't really count but if you count the 2 others in my family that I've worked on then its 7) and have never had to take any of them to the dealer. A bit of common sense and trouble shooting, as well as forum searches here for similar issues, can get you a loooong way on repairs. Granted, I've bought a couple parts that I ended up not needing but considering the amount of money I've saved in the long run I'd say it was worth it.
That or I just haven't run accross something I can't run down yet :) Even then, I'd rather take my car to a reputable private shop vs a stealership.
...just the rantings of a poor college student :banghead:
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