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Damnit! I need to go single!


jcsaleen
08-05-2006, 12:33 AM
Got I gotta work my ass for this single turbo. I'm going to a To4-Z by Feb or march hopefully. I'm cruising to my friends place an I get the once in a life time opportunity to race a Silver gallardo with exhaust on it too! He's egg'in me on. I didn't want to waste gas though. All I have is intake an a very nice cat-back.

That night I got one kill though a Turbo 330I. It was damn quick though must have been pushing around 12+ lbs. We raced from 35-100 I beat him by a good 6+ Car lengths though. Fun little race though.

Bio}{azard
08-05-2006, 01:36 AM
Grammatical errors!

jcsaleen
08-05-2006, 01:47 AM
Won't let you change the title of the thread nor reset...

-The Stig-
08-05-2006, 01:53 AM
Fixed.

jcsaleen
08-05-2006, 01:58 AM
Thank you!

Musashi3000GT
08-05-2006, 09:35 AM
um....good kil....?

G-man422
08-05-2006, 09:38 AM
lol, if you beat the lambo do you win something?

jcsaleen
08-05-2006, 11:46 AM
lol, if you beat the lambo do you win something?

Yes, My diginity. He was messing with me for a good 5 min's all ready to launch an everything! :banghead:

turbo2nr
08-05-2006, 12:00 PM
if you want a good rx-7 shop i know one in nyc. they have a 8sec 1st gen track car...

what are you gona have done along with the turbo? fmu?

jcsaleen
08-05-2006, 12:28 PM
I'm working it up as we speak. I'm doing cheap stuff for the twins for now just till i get to about 350 rwhp by then I should have some stuff for the single like the intercooler,boost controller,PFC an some other goodies.

CassiesMan
08-05-2006, 03:48 PM
That guy in the turbo 330 must not be able to drive worth a shit, if all you have is a cat back and an intake. And no, don't go single, come down to Texas and talk to Steve.

TatII
08-05-2006, 10:45 PM
who fast are turboed 330's? i know a FD stock traps at 103mph. so with the little mods maybe he'll trap a 105mph atleast.

a stock 330 traps around 95mph at most and you need atleast another 100whp to trap what jcsaleen does. since jcsaleen lost by 6 cars, that turbo 330 will need to make an additiona 60whp on top of the 100whp. so it needs to make 160whp over stock. and since you said that he can't drive for crap that means it needs to be even more then 160whp over stock.

so how much power are 330 turbos suppose to make? i know motortrend tested a few super charged 330's and they're not even as fast as a stock E46 M3.

jcsaleen
08-05-2006, 11:15 PM
It was a sedan 330 turbo'd. Sedan = too much weight!

jcsaleen
08-05-2006, 11:21 PM
Engine Type 3.0 Liter DOHC 24-valve inline 6-cylinder engine
Horsepower 225 @ 5,900 RPM
Torque 214 @ 3,500 RPM
Curb Weight 3,385
Acceleration 0 to 60 6.4 Seconds (6.9 Seconds with AWD)

Sorry but he wouldn't have a shot....

CassiesMan
08-06-2006, 12:14 PM
Sorry but he wouldn't have a shot....

Most turboed 330is are putting down high two hundred, low three hundred at the wheels. The majority of them are mid twelves, some a bit lower than that. So your telling me that an FD, which is a 14 flat car stock, with just an exhaust and intake, no boost mods or anything, is a 12 second car? Doubt it.

TatII
08-06-2006, 01:09 PM
Most turboed 330is are putting down high two hundred, low three hundred at the wheels. The majority of them are mid twelves, some a bit lower than that. So your telling me that an FD, which is a 14 flat car stock, with just an exhaust and intake, no boost mods or anything, is a 12 second car? Doubt it.

and your telling me that a upper 200-300whp in a 3500-3600 lbs car is a 12 second car? lol. that means my must be a low 12 second car then.

stock FD's puts down around 230whp with his breathing mods it should be around 250whp plus he weights less then 2700 lbs. FD's runs high 13's stock, a very bad time for it would be a 14 flat. this isn't a twin turbo Z you know. so driven right it should be a mid to low 13 second car if you wanna be realistic.

what do those bimmers trap with the turbo?

CassiesMan
08-06-2006, 01:32 PM
and your telling me that a upper 200-300whp in a 3500-3600 lbs car is a 12 second car? lol. that means my must be a low 12 second car then.
Most of the 330i's on E46psi are around 3200...not 3500+. I'm going off their numbers. Non of them have thier times posted, but what I gather from DTMPower, most of them are legit twelve second cars.

stock FD's puts down around 230whp with his breathing mods it should be around 250whp plus he weights less then 2700 lbs. FD's runs high 13's stock, a very bad time for it would be a 14 flat. this isn't a twin turbo Z you know. so driven right it should be a mid to low 13 second car if you wanna be realistic.
I got the 14 flat for a stock FD off of RX7club, and talking to the guy who used to cut my hair (I know I know...)who works on FDs for a hobby. He's got three of 'em (I was supposed to get to drive one, but it never happened, but I have seen them), and drag races one of them. I asked him what times they run stock, and he said while back in 93 you may have been able to cut out a mid 13 second pass if you drove the shit out of it, most drivers will get a very high 13 (like a 13.9) or a 14 second pass.

what do those bimmers trap with the turbo?
No clue, I'll have to check it out. I know JMWebs SC'd E46 traps at about 125ish, he runs a high 11, and I have videos of him pulling on single and twin turboed Supras, and a modded 996 Turbo.

I'm not saying JC didn't beat an turbo 330. I'm just saying that he has a mid 13 second car, so for him to beat a turboed 330 by sixth lengths, either the the driver sucked major nuts at driving, or wasn't pushing it at all. Hell, for sixth lengths...stock for stock that means the 330i would have to have gotten slower when he boosted it. They aren't fast cars, thats a given, but they aren't a slouch either.

jcsaleen
08-06-2006, 01:51 PM
It's a family sedan with an aftermarket turbo not to mention there was a passenger. Not to mention the torque sucks on turbo'd bimmer's. I've seen AMp's FD (well known guy with 3 cym rx7's). As I've seen first hand at rotorfest he's trapped 12.8 with a chromed out/powdercoated engine, all that was done was intake, cat back, downpipe and battery. With aftermarket wheels which were alot heavier then stock.

CassiesMan
08-06-2006, 02:01 PM
Not to mention the torque sucks on turbo'd bimmer's.This comming from someone with an FD...

For the last time, I'm not saying you didn't beat him. I'm just saying six car lengths is very generous of a statement.

RACER D12
08-06-2006, 05:57 PM
JC I think you should go to the track and post up a vid because some of your story’s are getting a bit farfetched. Not saying they didn’t happen just saying you need to put up some proof. We asked the same of cobaltSS

jcsaleen
08-06-2006, 06:08 PM
What seems so far fetched about a 330I turbo'd getting beat by an Rx7? (Family sedan that weighs over 3600lbs) I think you guys severely under estimate the 7's times an potental. A car that weighs just over 2600lbs and is pushing 10lbs out the factory and your saying some family bimmer with a bolt on could beat me? I know what can an can';t beat my car and I'm sure as hell that bimmer even form a dead stop couldn't beat me. Your either under estimateing me or my car... I'll admit I did glance back an he was wayyy back maybe it was 4-5 nto sure but I do no there was no doubt I beat him considerably.

In any case when I can afford a vid cam for your undinable intellec to assess my race's I'll let you know. Till then that money goes into my car.

Edit: From now on I'm not going to post up length's because it's damn hard to judge when your the one racing not to mention it causes so much controversy. It was pitch black out & I know I beat him by a very good amount no where near close and he wasn't pulling on me at all.

RACER D12
08-06-2006, 07:06 PM
What seems so far fetched about a 330I turbo'd getting beat by an Rx7? (Family sedan that weighs over 3600lbs) I think you guys severely under estimate the 7's times an potental. A car that weighs just over 2600lbs and is pushing 10lbs out the factory and your saying some family bimmer with a bolt on could beat me? I know what can an can';t beat my car and I'm sure as hell that bimmer even form a dead stop couldn't beat me. Your either under estimateing me or my car... I'll admit I did glance back an he was wayyy back maybe it was 4-5 nto sure but I do no there was no doubt I beat him considerably.


Where are you getting your numbers?

Edmunds puts the 330 sedan at just over 3200lb and the RX-7 a little over 2700lbs. You do have the advantage but not as much as you make it sound.

jcsaleen
08-06-2006, 09:19 PM
Where are you getting your numbers?

Edmunds puts the 330 sedan at just over 3200lb and the RX-7 a little over 2700lbs. You do have the advantage but not as much as you make it sound.
2 full weight adults (185+) in a 330I not to mention the heavy ass rims he had. Btw ~ I weigh about 140 I'm tiny + I had my spare out as well. my curb is some where around 2712 or something like that so with the stock intake removed an the ducting an crap + the spare I'm way under that but then it me I guess.

The base 93 weighs at around 2650 but I have the sounds system so that adds some.

TatII
08-07-2006, 01:06 AM
oh wait a minute. jcsaleen won by 6 lenghts? i thought he lost by 6 lenghts. then that makes my argument totally different. i am officially staying out of this thread. ( but i'll still ghost )

BlackGT2000
08-07-2006, 07:08 AM
2 full weight adults (185+) in a 330I not to mention the heavy ass rims he had. Btw ~ I weigh about 140 I'm tiny + I had my spare out as well. my curb is some where around 2712 or something like that so with the stock intake removed an the ducting an crap + the spare I'm way under that but then it me I guess.

The base 93 weighs at around 2650 but I have the sounds system so that adds some.

First off, I would hardly call an aftermarket turbo on a BMW a "bolt on". Secondly the math you are putting out makes no sense. If the base 93 weighs 2650, and you weigh 140 than you are sitting at 2790 pounds, I don't see that the (stock plastic intake weight)-(aftermarket intake weight)+(no spare)+sound system=78 pounds removed. If you are no longer talking factory weight I would say that your car weighs over 2800 pounds with you in it. Also, I don't think that the rims on that car would add much weight to the BMW. The only minor thing the BMW may have noticed by the wheel weight would be slightly higher rotational mass for the engine to turn. But then again I don't think a turbo'd BMW is really starving for power.

Right_LiRrr
08-12-2006, 09:58 AM
330i at 12 psi......geezus. i'd say they're pretty damn quick from 35-100

and i'd say keep twin turbo set up.....one giant turbo conversion is for dyno queens

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