info on LS engine swap?
jusg19
08-17-2002, 09:50 PM
I was at my local salvage yard and i found a dx hatch that was hit in the front, so i got all kinds of parts i needed for the rear.
but while i was there today i found 89 integra LS with engine, tranny, ecu and everything still working and in the car. anyone have a link or just info on what i need, specs of the engine, what engine it is (all i know is it is DOHC,but is it vtec?) can it go into the 91 civic hatch easier than a b16, I know i can get the stuff for less than the b16. help me out, i got no clue what i'm walking into.
Later~:p
but while i was there today i found 89 integra LS with engine, tranny, ecu and everything still working and in the car. anyone have a link or just info on what i need, specs of the engine, what engine it is (all i know is it is DOHC,but is it vtec?) can it go into the 91 civic hatch easier than a b16, I know i can get the stuff for less than the b16. help me out, i got no clue what i'm walking into.
Later~:p
GTA
08-17-2002, 11:42 PM
89 is still a 1st gen Integra. its a d16a1 if i remember correctly, which is a version of the ZC. From what i've read online, This engine does not bolt into a 88-91 civic, the mounts are in different locations.
Melt
08-18-2002, 01:00 AM
all i know is it is DOHC,but is it vtec?)
Nope, not vtec.
By the way, how messed up is the teg? If not too bad I would get it and do it up or use it as a daily driver, either way works. Lots of people autocross those.
Nope, not vtec.
By the way, how messed up is the teg? If not too bad I would get it and do it up or use it as a daily driver, either way works. Lots of people autocross those.
jusg19
08-18-2002, 07:53 AM
oh, if its not even a zc i don't want to be bothered.
you can't drive it, the whole rear has been cut off it.
you can't drive it, the whole rear has been cut off it.
1 point 6
08-18-2002, 09:05 AM
Depends what engine it is.
D16A1 Acura Integra 1986-1987
D16A3 Acura Integra 1988-1989
D16A3 Acura Integra 1988-1989
D16A8/9 Acura Integra 1988-1989
Id get a newer LS motor and do LSVtec, b18b or LS/Turbo. Here is what you need to do a LS/Vtec swap
first off....
the B16A head is off either 1st or 2nd gen SiR's and also can be found in some Del sol's known as the B16A3
1 gen B16a1 or B17A(92-93 GSR)
2 gen B16A2
Del sol B16A3
Best used because of better flow through the head
and it will tell you on the head it self it should say above the exhaust ports PR3-1( 1 gen) PR3-2( 2nd gen ) PR3-3 ( 2nd Gen usdm delsol
the GSR head is a B18 head and it will also say above the exhaust ports P72
not good in the flow ports ... too restricted..
Type R P73 code
Perfrect flow through the ports...
your either better off getting a Type R head.... or if your low on doe get the B16 head and put the type r valvetrain in it, almost like a type R head.... just more affordable
also to get the head ot fit right you have to re-locate the dowlpins to the other side .. also tap the oil line and plug it.... get a machine shop to do all this stuff..... there experts in the field or doing that stuff...
go to : www.c-speedracing.com they have a good article about it
i think they got it from www.diyracing.com?? im not sure if that is the site they got it form... but c-speed has a better way of tell ing you.
hope that helps
eh while im at it here are some other swaps you could try...
A20A3 Honda Accord 1988-1989
B16 Acura Integra XSi/RSi (JDM) 1990-1991
B16 Acura Integra XSi/RSi 1992-1993
B16A Honda Civic SiR (JDM) 1989-1991
B16A Honda Civic (EDM) 1992-1995
B16A Honda Civic VTi 1996-2000
B16A Honda Del Sol/CRX SiR 1992-1996
B16A Honda Civic SiR (JDM-Hatch) 1989-1992
B16A1 Honda CRX 1.6i/VTi (EDM) 1989-1992
B16A1 Honda CRX SiR 1990-1991
B16A1 Honda Civic SiR (JDM) 1990-1991
B16A2 Honda Civic Si 1999-2000
B16A2 Honda Civic SiRII (JDM) 1992-1995
B16A2 Honda Del Sol (JDM) 1993-1995
B16A3 Honda Del Sol 1992-1995
B16B Honda Civic Type R (JDM) 1998-2001
B17A1 Acura Integra GSR 1992-1993
B18A1 Acura Integra GS 1990-1991
B18A1 Acura Integra GS 1992-1993
B18B1 Acura Integra GS/LS/RS 1994-1995
B18B1 Acura Integra GS/LS/RS 1996-2000
B18C Acura Integra SiR (JDM) 1995-1997
B18C1 Acura Integra GSR 1994-2001
B18C3 Honda Integra Type R 1995-1998
B18C5 Acura Integra Type R 1998-2001
B18C5 Honda Integra Type R 1997-2001
B20A3 Honda Prelude 2.0 S 1990-1991
B20A5 Honda Prelude 2.0 Si 1990-1991
B20A5 Honda Prelude Si 1988-1989
B20A5 Honda Prelude Si 1988-1989
B20B Honda CRV 1997-1998
B20Z Honda CRV 1998-2001
B21A1 Honda Prelude Si 1990-1991
C30A Acura NSX 2002+
C32B Acura NSX 2002+
D15A Honda Civic DX 1988-1991
D15A1 Honda CRX DX 1988-1991
D15A2 Honda CRX HF (Carbed) 1984-1987
D15B2 Honda Civic DX/LX 1988-1991
D15B6 Honda Civic HF/CRX HF 1988-1989
D15B6 Honda Civic HF/CRX HF 1990-1991
D15B7 Honda Civic DX/LX 1992-1995
D15B8 Honda Civic CX 1992-1995
D15Y7 Honda Civic DX/LX/CX 1996-2000
D15Z Honda Civic HF 1996-2000
D15Z1 Honda Civic VX 1992-1995
D16A1 Acura Integra 1986-1987
D16A3 Acura Integra 1988-1989
D16A3 Acura Integra 1988-1989
D16A6 Honda Civic Si/CRX Si 1988-1991
D16A6 Honda Civic EX 1990-1991
D16A8/9 Acura Integra 1988-1989
D16Y8 Honda Civic EX 1996-2000
D16Z6 Honda Civic EX/Si /Del Sol Si 1992-1995
D17A1 Honda Civic DX/LX 2001+
D17A2 Honda Civic EX 2001+
EW4 Honda CRX Si 1985-1987
EW4 Honda Civic Si 1986-1987
F20A Honda Accord 2.0Si (JDM) 1990-1993
F20C Honda S2000 2000+
F22 Honda Prelude Si 1992-1996
F22A1 Honda Accord 1990-1993
F22A1 Honda Prelude S 1992-1996
F22A4 Honda Accord 1990-1991
F22A6 Honda Accord 1991-1993
F22B1 Honda Accord EX 1994-1997
F22B2 Honda Accord DX/LX 1994-1997
H22 Honda Accord SiR 1994-1997
H22 Honda Prelude VTEC 1992-1996
H22A Honda Prelude SiR (JDM) 1997-2001
H22A Honda Prelude 1999-2001
H22A Honda Prelude Type S (JDM) 1997-2001
H22A1 Honda Prelude 1997-1998
H22A1 Honda Prelude VTEC 1994-1996
H23 Honda Prelude Type S (JDM) 1993-1995
H23A1 Honda Prelude SE/Si 1992-1996
K20A Acura Integra (JDM) 2001+
K20A Honda Civic Type R (JDM) 2001+
K20A Integra Type R (JDM) 2001+
K20A Acura Integra IS (JDM) 2001+
K20A2 Acura RSX Type S 2001+
K20A3 Acura RSX 2001+
K20A3 Honda Civic Si 2002+
K24 Honda CRV 2002+
ZC Honda CRX (JDM) 1990-1993
ZC Honda CRX Si16/1.6i (JDM) 1989-1992
ZC Honda CRX Si (JDM) 1985-1987
ZC Acura Integra (JDM) 1990-1993
ZC Acura Integra (JDM) 1986-1989
ZC Honda Civic Si (JDM) 1986-1987
ZC Honda Civic Si (JDM) 1988-1991
well this just happends to be every engine code.
D16A1 Acura Integra 1986-1987
D16A3 Acura Integra 1988-1989
D16A3 Acura Integra 1988-1989
D16A8/9 Acura Integra 1988-1989
Id get a newer LS motor and do LSVtec, b18b or LS/Turbo. Here is what you need to do a LS/Vtec swap
first off....
the B16A head is off either 1st or 2nd gen SiR's and also can be found in some Del sol's known as the B16A3
1 gen B16a1 or B17A(92-93 GSR)
2 gen B16A2
Del sol B16A3
Best used because of better flow through the head
and it will tell you on the head it self it should say above the exhaust ports PR3-1( 1 gen) PR3-2( 2nd gen ) PR3-3 ( 2nd Gen usdm delsol
the GSR head is a B18 head and it will also say above the exhaust ports P72
not good in the flow ports ... too restricted..
Type R P73 code
Perfrect flow through the ports...
your either better off getting a Type R head.... or if your low on doe get the B16 head and put the type r valvetrain in it, almost like a type R head.... just more affordable
also to get the head ot fit right you have to re-locate the dowlpins to the other side .. also tap the oil line and plug it.... get a machine shop to do all this stuff..... there experts in the field or doing that stuff...
go to : www.c-speedracing.com they have a good article about it
i think they got it from www.diyracing.com?? im not sure if that is the site they got it form... but c-speed has a better way of tell ing you.
hope that helps
eh while im at it here are some other swaps you could try...
A20A3 Honda Accord 1988-1989
B16 Acura Integra XSi/RSi (JDM) 1990-1991
B16 Acura Integra XSi/RSi 1992-1993
B16A Honda Civic SiR (JDM) 1989-1991
B16A Honda Civic (EDM) 1992-1995
B16A Honda Civic VTi 1996-2000
B16A Honda Del Sol/CRX SiR 1992-1996
B16A Honda Civic SiR (JDM-Hatch) 1989-1992
B16A1 Honda CRX 1.6i/VTi (EDM) 1989-1992
B16A1 Honda CRX SiR 1990-1991
B16A1 Honda Civic SiR (JDM) 1990-1991
B16A2 Honda Civic Si 1999-2000
B16A2 Honda Civic SiRII (JDM) 1992-1995
B16A2 Honda Del Sol (JDM) 1993-1995
B16A3 Honda Del Sol 1992-1995
B16B Honda Civic Type R (JDM) 1998-2001
B17A1 Acura Integra GSR 1992-1993
B18A1 Acura Integra GS 1990-1991
B18A1 Acura Integra GS 1992-1993
B18B1 Acura Integra GS/LS/RS 1994-1995
B18B1 Acura Integra GS/LS/RS 1996-2000
B18C Acura Integra SiR (JDM) 1995-1997
B18C1 Acura Integra GSR 1994-2001
B18C3 Honda Integra Type R 1995-1998
B18C5 Acura Integra Type R 1998-2001
B18C5 Honda Integra Type R 1997-2001
B20A3 Honda Prelude 2.0 S 1990-1991
B20A5 Honda Prelude 2.0 Si 1990-1991
B20A5 Honda Prelude Si 1988-1989
B20A5 Honda Prelude Si 1988-1989
B20B Honda CRV 1997-1998
B20Z Honda CRV 1998-2001
B21A1 Honda Prelude Si 1990-1991
C30A Acura NSX 2002+
C32B Acura NSX 2002+
D15A Honda Civic DX 1988-1991
D15A1 Honda CRX DX 1988-1991
D15A2 Honda CRX HF (Carbed) 1984-1987
D15B2 Honda Civic DX/LX 1988-1991
D15B6 Honda Civic HF/CRX HF 1988-1989
D15B6 Honda Civic HF/CRX HF 1990-1991
D15B7 Honda Civic DX/LX 1992-1995
D15B8 Honda Civic CX 1992-1995
D15Y7 Honda Civic DX/LX/CX 1996-2000
D15Z Honda Civic HF 1996-2000
D15Z1 Honda Civic VX 1992-1995
D16A1 Acura Integra 1986-1987
D16A3 Acura Integra 1988-1989
D16A3 Acura Integra 1988-1989
D16A6 Honda Civic Si/CRX Si 1988-1991
D16A6 Honda Civic EX 1990-1991
D16A8/9 Acura Integra 1988-1989
D16Y8 Honda Civic EX 1996-2000
D16Z6 Honda Civic EX/Si /Del Sol Si 1992-1995
D17A1 Honda Civic DX/LX 2001+
D17A2 Honda Civic EX 2001+
EW4 Honda CRX Si 1985-1987
EW4 Honda Civic Si 1986-1987
F20A Honda Accord 2.0Si (JDM) 1990-1993
F20C Honda S2000 2000+
F22 Honda Prelude Si 1992-1996
F22A1 Honda Accord 1990-1993
F22A1 Honda Prelude S 1992-1996
F22A4 Honda Accord 1990-1991
F22A6 Honda Accord 1991-1993
F22B1 Honda Accord EX 1994-1997
F22B2 Honda Accord DX/LX 1994-1997
H22 Honda Accord SiR 1994-1997
H22 Honda Prelude VTEC 1992-1996
H22A Honda Prelude SiR (JDM) 1997-2001
H22A Honda Prelude 1999-2001
H22A Honda Prelude Type S (JDM) 1997-2001
H22A1 Honda Prelude 1997-1998
H22A1 Honda Prelude VTEC 1994-1996
H23 Honda Prelude Type S (JDM) 1993-1995
H23A1 Honda Prelude SE/Si 1992-1996
K20A Acura Integra (JDM) 2001+
K20A Honda Civic Type R (JDM) 2001+
K20A Integra Type R (JDM) 2001+
K20A Acura Integra IS (JDM) 2001+
K20A2 Acura RSX Type S 2001+
K20A3 Acura RSX 2001+
K20A3 Honda Civic Si 2002+
K24 Honda CRV 2002+
ZC Honda CRX (JDM) 1990-1993
ZC Honda CRX Si16/1.6i (JDM) 1989-1992
ZC Honda CRX Si (JDM) 1985-1987
ZC Acura Integra (JDM) 1990-1993
ZC Acura Integra (JDM) 1986-1989
ZC Honda Civic Si (JDM) 1986-1987
ZC Honda Civic Si (JDM) 1988-1991
well this just happends to be every engine code.
Melt
08-18-2002, 11:50 AM
wow! thanks for that list, i saved it all into a text file for future reference
Whitey001
08-23-2002, 04:13 AM
nice info thanks that helps me too:greenchai
91civicDXdude
08-23-2002, 04:16 AM
If you can get it for cheap buy the ECU atleast and i will buy it from you. i really need one badly
honda troll
08-28-2002, 05:23 AM
Originally posted by 1 point 6
K20A2 Acura RSX Type S 2001+
K20A3 Acura RSX 2001+
K20A3 Honda Civic Si 2002+
well this just happends to be every engine code. Actually, the 2002+ Honda Civic Si is the K20A1.
The K20A3 in the base RSX has a dual stage intake manifold. The Civic Si has a single stage intake manifold. There are several other minute differences as well, but I'm just showing they are not the same engine, contrary to popular belief.
K20A2 Acura RSX Type S 2001+
K20A3 Acura RSX 2001+
K20A3 Honda Civic Si 2002+
well this just happends to be every engine code. Actually, the 2002+ Honda Civic Si is the K20A1.
The K20A3 in the base RSX has a dual stage intake manifold. The Civic Si has a single stage intake manifold. There are several other minute differences as well, but I'm just showing they are not the same engine, contrary to popular belief.
Civickidd88
11-03-2006, 06:02 PM
Ihave a 1991 Honda Civic DX Hatch and i just got an engine from a 1989 Acura integra LS is it possible to do a engine swap on it....
CRXperiment
11-03-2006, 06:08 PM
Ihave a 1991 Honda Civic DX Hatch and i just got an engine from a 1989 Acura integra LS is it possible to do a engine swap on it....
No, its a waste of time getting a first gen teg (D16A1?) engine in your civic. Please dont bring up old threads.
No, its a waste of time getting a first gen teg (D16A1?) engine in your civic. Please dont bring up old threads.
Melt
11-03-2006, 07:24 PM
No, its a waste of time getting a first gen teg (D16A1?) engine in your civic. Please dont bring up old threads.
wasnt the first gen teg the d16a9 .... i hear similar to dohc zc .... but yea bad idea .... get a 90 or newer b18 if you want an ls swap.
wasnt the first gen teg the d16a9 .... i hear similar to dohc zc .... but yea bad idea .... get a 90 or newer b18 if you want an ls swap.
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