Why do people think the WS6 is slower then the SS?

It seems like alot of people just dismiss my car as some wanna be SS whenever i'm at the illegals. They usually associate it with being slower then the SS, though rag times typically show the LS1 powered WS6 to be faster then the similarly powered Camaro SS.

Is this based on the LT1 Camaro SS being alot quicker then the LT1 powered WS6, or is this just due to looks, or something else?

No idea.
I have never had that problem.

I doubt the people that think the SS is faster even knew the LT4 SSes were faster than the LT1s, or what an LT4 is because it's rare.

The reason is that random people know about the popular Camaro even though the Pontiac is more refined. Then you have AF's point of view: The Firebird is cooler looking than the Camaro so it's faster!!

Black ls1 ws6 ftw (my dream car)

Black ls1 ws6 ftw (my dream car)
Like so??

http://home.comcast.net/~mrluoss/Drive31.JPG

Is this based on the LT1 Camaro SS being alot quicker then the LT1 powered WS6, or is this just due to looks, or something else?
:confused: Where the hell did that little misconception come from?. Yes the LT4 Firehawks and SS were faster than the LT1 version but with the LT1 SS and LT1 WS6 it was a driver race with either the possible victor.

:confused: Where the hell did that little misconception come from?. Yes the LT4 Firehawks and SS were faster than the LT1 version but with the LT1 SS and LT1 WS6 it was a driver race with either the possible victor.

Sounds like someone's giving you guys a bad name :shakehead

I don't have a WS6 and Formula's are the lightest of all the LT1 v8 powered F-bodys, so I tend to see alot of people claim they are the fastest by a tenth or two but there is always a car to car power variance even with the same exact drivetrain so it doesn't make that big of a deal in a race if a guy is one or two hundred lbs lighter. Its still a drivers race.

Either way, it's impossible to gauge the reason that (people think) Camaros on the road are faster. There could be more souped up camaros out there and it could have nothing to do with stock specs. The bottom line is that all f-bodies have the same performance starting out and from there it's anyone's guess.

...Why is the formula lighter?

Either way, it's impossible to gauge the reason that (people think) Camaros on the road are faster. There could be more souped up camaros out there and it could have nothing to do with stock specs. The bottom line is that all f-bodies have the same performance starting out and from there it's anyone's guess.

...Why is the formula lighter?
Less options and lighter body panels such as Smaller hatch spoiler. Lighter front bumper (no foglights and wiring).

:confused: Where the hell did that little misconception come from?. Yes the LT4 Firehawks and SS were faster than the LT1 version but with the LT1 SS and LT1 WS6 it was a driver race with either the possible victor.

Car & Driver noted in their articles that "For some reason the similarly powered Firebird is slower then the Camaro". Also if you read an article in Car & Driver they tested a LT1 powered SS Camaro to a 2-3 tenths faster 1/4 mile then a similarly powered WS6 (They also had a 96/97 Cobra in that issue).

Luos where are your track times, buddy???? :D

Car & Driver noted in their articles that "For some reason the similarly powered Firebird is slower then the Camaro". Also if you read an article in Car & Driver they tested a LT1 powered SS Camaro to a 2-3 tenths faster 1/4 mile then a similarly powered WS6 (They also had a 96/97 Cobra in that issue).

Luos where are your track times, buddy???? :D
Eh, that was one test study. Like I said there is variances between the same exact cars coming off the line at the same time. So I wouldn't put too much faith into that.

Dude you have one nice looking ride. Don't worry what some people will think. Just smokem when you see em... Yours and esp. Curtis's ride make me get all exited like a Catholic school boy going to see the Priest...

Car & Driver noted in their articles that "For some reason the similarly powered Firebird is slower then the Camaro". Also if you read an article in Car & Driver they tested a LT1 powered SS Camaro to a 2-3 tenths faster 1/4 mile then a similarly powered WS6 (They also had a 96/97 Cobra in that issue).

Luos where are your track times, buddy???? :D
Still working on getting some minor things worked out before going to the track.
Mostly just grinding and repainting the rear calipers.

Dude you have one nice looking ride. Don't worry what some people will think. Just smokem when you see em... Yours and esp. Curtis's ride make me get all exited like a Catholic school boy going to see the Priest...

LOL
Thanks for the compliment. It seems like alot of people dunno what a WS6 is around my area.

they should be the same but WS.6 looks faster! (If l wouldn't know anything about cars and if l would see them both, l would say that ws.6 should be faster)

Like so??

http://home.comcast.net/~mrluoss/Drive31.JPG

I will own one sometime in my lifetime. It is just that I am seventeen and am currently saving for college.

College > WS.6

I'm buying one FOR College. :grinyes:

College > WS.6
:screwy: Not a chance, college sucks, your car on the other hand kicks ass!

College Life
Having a WS.6 that can help get you laid > Saving up and studying hard so that get good grades.


We only live these live once fella's. lets try are hardest to enjoy it :evillol:

go to college and collect ws6s or dont go to college get a high mileage ws6 and sit on your ass and work at mcdonalds and give the pay checks local shop/ gas station!

My friend is trying to talk me into buying an LS1 WS6. I told him (somewhat jokingly) that if I sold the maro, combined with the money I have in the bank, that I would have enough to buy one. He thinks I should, but if I do that, I'll have no money for college or mod money. But I do agree, the WS6 looks cooler than most camaros.
But they are practically the same car, so driver's race.

I do agree that it is a drivers race however, if you take 2 of the same car and add ground effects (front, sides, back), a bigger spoiler, and not to mention the pop-up headlights. All that extra weight adds up. What's the old saying? "One hundred pounds is equal to a tenth of a second". I remember in the 80's and 90's in magazines, they always said the T/A was always a little slower because of the weight.

It's just like with the 5.0 Mustangs, you take a LX hatch with exactly the same options as the GT. The LX weighs about 300 pounds lighter. That's basically three tenths of a second. That could be up to 3 car lengths.

Here's my 2 cents, THE WS6 LOOKS MEAN AS HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The SS is cool also but, it has more of a clean look. I think the same thing about the LX and GT 5.0's. One day I like the GT better than the next I like the LX better (because of the cleaner look). I guess it depends on what day it is.

I do agree that it is a drivers race however, if you take 2 of the same car and add ground effects (front, sides, back), a bigger spoiler, and not to mention the pop-up headlights. All that extra weight adds up. What's the old saying? "One hundred pounds is equal to a tenth of a second". I remember in the 80's and 90's in magazines, they always said the T/A was always a little slower because of the weight.

It's just like with the 5.0 Mustangs, you take a LX hatch with exactly the same options as the GT. The LX weighs about 300 pounds lighter. That's basically three tenths of a second. That could be up to 3 car lengths.

Here's my 2 cents, THE WS6 LOOKS MEAN AS HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The SS is cool also but, it has more of a clean look. I think the same thing about the LX and GT 5.0's. One day I like the GT better than the next I like the LX better (because of the cleaner look). I guess it depends on what day it is.
The majority of LT1 WS6's were made on Formula platforms, which was lighter than the Z28 platformed used on the SS.

hhe im in college and i got a SS ;D

thank goodness for stupid tourists + old firebird + scholarships!

I plan on going to college then when I get out and get a good job take out a loan and get a ws6

To be honest I think College is damn near worthless. I can't tell you how disheartening it is to see a dude w/ an engineering degree working at a movie theatre, or a guy with a PHD applying at Consumer Affairs for a Small Claims Advisor position. Finding a job out there is more based on your experience then it is your education. I have two degrees (A Bachelor's Of Science Degree in Criminal Justice and an American Bar Association Degree in Corporate Law).

Reflecting back on it all, it was fun getting my degree, but honestly most workplaces just look at a degree as a test of your ability. Think about it, what do you truly learn at a University that you will utilize at your workplace? If you go to a trade school it's alot better idea. You'll have hands on experience, and deal with all the problems you run into on a day to day basis. I suppose I write better then the average Joe, but it really isn't worthwhile all the time I put into College.

That's just me rambling on. Take my advise for what it is. Go to trade school if you believe me, but don't if you disagree.

but honestly most workplaces just look at a degree as a test of your ability

I have heard this many times and I now realize how true that it is

yeah, thats what i figured.. i want to be an engineer but id prolly learn more if i just got tossed into the job and they trained me. oh well.. what can we do, america tells us to go college..so we do. ;P

and anyways, im just wasteing years of life, not money... i get free school :D

go to college and collect ws6s or dont go to college get a high mileage ws6 and sit on your ass and work at mcdonalds and give the pay checks local shop/ gas station!

Hahahhaha very true

The majority of LT1 WS6's were made on Formula platforms, which was lighter than the Z28 platformed used on the SS.


No, I'm talking about the LS1, the new birds like Luos has, I believe they are 99-03.?

98-02