fuel additives?

Anyone use fuel additives like interpacific d1280-x or any of that stuff where it claims to save gas and make your engine run better? Neighbor recommended me d1280-x and i'm still not sure about it. found their site on www.interpacific.biz . Any thoughts?

maybe its just me, but i generally regard all addatives as a scam.
there simply is no "Miracle formula" that will increase power and gas mileage, while lowering emissions, saving the planet, and ending starvation and death in war ravaged third world countries... ok, i got a little carried away.

my point is this: try it if you want, but dont expect the miraculous gains advertized.

I tried Gumout Gas Mileage Improver in mine. Didn't do shit except lower my octane rating.

I think I'll give it a shot and experiment a little bit and see how it works out. Just for kicks. Gonna try to compare mileage with my car with the additive and without.

Anyone use fuel additives like interpacific d1280-x or any of that stuff where it claims to save gas and make your engine run better? Neighbor recommended me d1280-x and i'm still not sure about it. found their site on www.interpacific.biz . Any thoughts?

Spell out Snake Oil and you have got it. :grinyes: :rofl: :lol:
MT

Some additives are good for cleaning water from crappy gas stations (stp) and other from dirty fuels from crappy gas stations (chevron techron). But other than that...do nothing. Some will raise the octane levels but personally I'm not fond of doing that often in an 87octane car.

Didn't people say that acetone was supposed to be a miracle gas additive ... acetone is a paint thinner.

Didn't people say that acetone was supposed to be a miracle gas additive ... acetone is a paint thinner.

10-4 that is what some said.
But from what I have heard it only worked good on the first tank of gas.
I think the stuff just blows the PCM mind like the 02 sensors sniffing glue /paint thiner for the first tank then the pcm figures out what is up and goes back to normal operation.
MT

I use D-1280X and bought it through Interpacific. I actually have been using it for 3 months+ and have seen it work. I think someone on this forum called it Snake Oil? Call it what you'd like but it worked for me. Went up about 30+ miles per tank on my little VW. I found it because a friend of mine introduced me to it. Thats my two cents.

10-4 that is what some said.
But from what I have heard it only worked good on the first tank of gas.
I think the stuff just blows the PCM mind like the 02 sensors sniffing glue /paint thiner for the first tank then the pcm figures out what is up and goes back to normal operation.
MT
what acetone does is relieve most of the surface tension from gas. this makes the gas atomize better and thus gives more power and fuel economy. i havent tried it, but i did some research and it seems reasonable. the only problem is that it really only "works" on carbed cars. modern efi already gives you great fuel atomization.

what acetone does is relieve most of the surface tension from gas. this makes the gas atomize better and thus gives more power and fuel economy. i havent tried it, but i did some research and it seems reasonable. the only problem is that it really only "works" on carbed cars. modern efi already gives you great fuel atomization.

The only thing acetone will do is to increase vapor pressure, in other words it can make cold staring easier. This is not anything you need to add to gasoline, but it can be added to for example ethanol or methanol. Acetone is quite expensive, so it's not that common in ordinary cars but in racing cars it can be used since acetone has a very high octane rating unlike other additives used to improve cold staring.

Both engines using carbs as well as those using fuel injection has no problems with transforming the liquid fuel into a combustable gas.

Today most gasoline already contains additives, not to improve fuel consumption, but to prevent build up of dirt, minimize corrosion and similar.

Additives sold at most gas station to clean fuel injectors, ar usually very overprized hexane, and additives to remove water is overprized alcohol.

Spell out Snake Oil and you have got it. :grinyes: :rofl: :lol:
MTYou got it. Some additives are good, but the one listed in this thread (d1280-x from www.interpacific.biz (http://www.interpacific.biz/) ) is obviously a scam. The claims they make are ridiculous, and defy proven scientific facts. Let's examine one of the claims, the claim that it will reduce engine temperatures by 46%, and make the engine run better, cleaner and get better mileage. 1) The engine's minimium temperature is controlled by the thermostat, so even if this product were to lower combustion temperatures, the engine temp would remain the same. 2) Lowering an engine's temperature increases combustion products, it doesn't reduce them. That is one of the main reasons that today's engines operate at high temperatures.... to combat pollution. 3) Lowering the temperature of the engine, will cause the air entering to be denser, which will require more fuel in order to obtain the ideal 14:1 ratio. 4) Lowering the engine's temp, will cause the engine to become dirtier, not cleaner, this is because the oil has to reach a certain temperature for maximum performance, as well as to boil out any condensation that may have formed inside the block. If this water is allowed to remain in the crankcase oil, it will mix with the combustion byproducts, causing it to become acidic, which not only will damage the engine, but will also reduce the effectiveness of the oil, causing friction damage as well.

Before you start reading this page, you should be warned that there is a heck of a lot of information here. We're not trying to steer you away from reading it. On the contrary, the more you read about D-1280X the more you will feel the sudden urge to run out to your car and start pouring D-1280X into it. So without further adieu, we present D-1280X (que applause track).

^ That just cracks me up.

I mean really, if this is such a "miracle" fuel additive, the general public would have heard of it a long time ago.

Anyone use fuel additives like interpacific d1280-x or any of that stuff where it claims to save gas and make your engine run better? Neighbor recommended me d1280-x and i'm still not sure about it. found their site on www.interpacific.biz . Any thoughts?


Here is a link to a Acetone page.
http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/2005/03/17/6900069_Acetone/
But beware. And proceed with caution. :grinyes: :rofl: :lol:
Has anyone used it or have any reports on it?
MT

I use acetone. 95 accord v6. It increased my gas mileage by like 2 mpg. It also lowers my idle a little under 750 but there is no knocking or vibration from it. I use 2.5 ounce per 10 gallons which is like less than a percent. It just lowers tension of gas like soap in water. Makes it evaporate better. <1% should have no effect on anything. It might even clean your injectors after a while.

I use acetone. 95 accord v6. It increased my gas mileage by like 2 mpg. It also lowers my idle a little under 750 but there is no knocking or vibration from it. I use 2.5 ounce per 10 gallons which is like less than a percent. It just lowers tension of gas like soap in water. Makes it evaporate better. <1% should have no effect on anything. It might even clean your injectors after a while.

Thanks for the info On it.
MT

You got it. Some additives are good, but the one listed in this thread (d1280-x from www.interpacific.biz (http://www.interpacific.biz/) ) is obviously a scam. The claims they make are ridiculous, and defy proven scientific facts. Let's examine one of the claims, the claim that it will reduce engine temperatures by 46%, and make the engine run better, cleaner and get better mileage. 1) The engine's minimium temperature is controlled by the thermostat, so even if this product were to lower combustion temperatures, the engine temp would remain the same. 2) Lowering an engine's temperature increases combustion products, it doesn't reduce them. That is one of the main reasons that today's engines operate at high temperatures.... to combat pollution. 3) Lowering the temperature of the engine, will cause the air entering to be denser, which will require more fuel in order to obtain the ideal 14:1 ratio. 4) Lowering the engine's temp, will cause the engine to become dirtier, not cleaner, this is because the oil has to reach a certain temperature for maximum performance, as well as to boil out any condensation that may have formed inside the block. If this water is allowed to remain in the crankcase oil, it will mix with the combustion byproducts, causing it to become acidic, which not only will damage the engine, but will also reduce the effectiveness of the oil, causing friction damage as well.

nice

I tried the acetone, but with inconclusive results, as the gas pump clicked off early and I didn't realise that. It appeared to give better economy. Hopefully the next tank will give me a better idea.
Acetone is supposed to reduce the gasoline surface tension, so it vapourizes better. Ever new generation of fuel injection system also seems to be higher pressure than the last sytem, to increase the vapourization of the fuel. Maybe this additive does work?

I tried the acetone, but with inconclusive results, as the gas pump clicked off early and I didn't realise that. It appeared to give better economy. Hopefully the next tank will give me a better idea.
Acetone is supposed to reduce the gasoline surface tension, so it vapourizes better. Ever new generation of fuel injection system also seems to be higher pressure than the last sytem, to increase the vapourization of the fuel. Maybe this additive does work?

Results, Listed Alphabetically According to Manufacturer
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Acetone_as_a_Fuel_Additive#Results.2C_Li sted_Alphabetically_According_to_Manufacturer_--_Automobile
It seems "older" cars -mostly 4 bangers do better with it, some not. A lot report smoother idle.
Also, when my needle points to the last increment line w/o acetone in tank, I fill up to 12 gallons full, though my tank is 17 gallons. With Acetone I can fill 13-14 at that line. So it does increase pressure for me too.

I use acetone. 95 accord v6. It increased my gas mileage by like 2 mpg. It also lowers my idle a little under 750 but there is no knocking or vibration from it. I use 2.5 ounce per 10 gallons which is like less than a percent. It just lowers tension of gas like soap in water. Makes it evaporate better. <1% should have no effect on anything. It might even clean your injectors after a while.

Acetone in the fuel is just like eating sugarpills, you might make you feel better but it will have absolutely no effect.

Acetone has been tested as an additive in engines on a dynamometer togeter with equipment for measuring the fuel consumption and it does absolutely nothing.

Any change in fuel consumption you have noticed is either a cause of your driving style, miscalculation of fuel consumption (this common given that few have the equipment needed to measure it with a high accuracy) or other reasons (air temperature, what kind of engine oil used, general engine condition and so on).

it might sound weird but it works. i learned it from a retired fuel systems engner of 40 years he said to mix a 50/1 2cycle oil mix once a year and before tuneups. he said it will lubricate the fuel pump, and injectors as well as coat the enigne internals. i started doing this and increased my mileage from 26 to 30 mpg my boss went from 30 to 36 so try it for yourself and see what it does for you:grinyes:

it might sound weird but it works. i learned it from a retired fuel systems engner of 40 years he said to mix a 50/1 2cycle oil mix once a year and before tuneups. he said it will lubricate the fuel pump, and injectors as well as coat the enigne internals. i started doing this and increased my mileage from 26 to 30 mpg my boss went from 30 to 36 so try it for yourself and see what it does for you:grinyes:


1 liter of oil to 50 liters of gas? please somebody do this and report back, cuz I aint

1 liter of oil to 50 liters of gas? please somebody do this and report back, cuz I aint
I believe it was some heavy corny sarcasm.

im not kiding id tell you ive done it many times but youll have to try it for yourself it seriosly works

Ok then educate me please. What is 2cycle oil? Is that oil for 2 cycle engines? and how does this confirm Acetone in fuel said to increase mileage?

first it doesnt confirm anything with the acetone myth this thread is about fuel aditives in genral.:banghead: far as what 2-cycle oil is it is a light oil used to lubricate the internals of a two-cycle engine (http://www.howstuffworks.com/two-stroke.htm)
far as its use in an automotive engine as i previosly stated it lupricates the fuel pump and injectors as well as cleans the engine of carbon by coating the internals ie valves cylinder head etc
its not so much to improve mileage on a new vehicle as it is to improve mileage on an older engine
and i promise you it does work:iceslolan

Hmm, I am getting a new Subaru in the summer..i might try it on my 95 v6 accord -it has 121k miles on it and I get 16mpg though I am in heavy traffic at times, 60% city. Highest I got was 19 mpg mix :(
I'm still scared at that smiles at the end of your posts brian.
1. "for yourself and see what it does for you -big nodding smile"
2. "and i promise you it does work -big nodding smile"

I don't know, it's seems scary.

lol as you can see im new to this forum so i not sure of emoticon etiquete:rolleyes:

I've put left over outboard fuel in the car in the fall. It gets rid of it, and it might help lub the pump etc. But at least the fuel isn't dumped on the ground.
Acrtone: I've read several posts, and gave it a try. 1 ounce in 10 gallons sounded diluted enough. With the varying weather we've had lately, it's hard to be sure, but I believe I'm seeing an increase in mileage, of at least 2 mpg on my average driving (1.9L / 4 cyl).

please stop telling people to put oil in the gas for a 4-cycle engine. oil is only mixed with gas in a 2-cycle engine.

if you are in some way worried about trying it then dont do it but would some one please try this and report back and if you are unwilling/scared unless you have actuall evidence of why it would be a problem other than you think it is just a bad idea

I put 48 liters of gas in my car, and decided to go with a double dose because my car is really high milage... two liters of oil. The filter screen of my fuel pump is clogged, and my engine started stumbling under load... it didnt feel right, all that oil going down the filler neck... an unsettled feeling overcame me as I realized what I had done...:iceslolan

Thanks for the martyrdom Ian.

Hmm.
Why a "double dose"?
My 2 stroke outboard runs 50:1, so when I put the leftovers in the car, it's pretty dilute.
You mixed 25:1 for a 4 stroke.
Still, I'm sure it mixed in throughly,a bouncy road will do that, and just cause the car to smoke a lot, but I don't think that's the cause of the filter screen clogging. It doesn't clog the filter in the outboard, which is fine enough to separate water.
Hopefully the cat can burn it off.
Good luck

Guys, if that really happened, there sure wouldnt be a smiley face beside my particular brand of humor. I am seriously not sure what would happen, but it just doesnt seem like its one of those things you do that has a benifit... although it might have a desireable effect... it's probably just kinda useless