CVT Box - plus engine power
Bertie4
08-04-2006, 11:43 AM
I'm looking to buy a used 500, possibly AWD with the CVT gearbox. I had a CVT when living in England, and like the system a lot. But, I have reservations how this works on a 3 liter engine (My U.K. car was a 1.4 liter Fiat). They can be a bit 'jerky' not having a torque converter as such. Nissan got around this problem, but I don't know about Ford.
I have read so many conflicting reports about this car. some reports praise the CVT, others don't.
Similarly, I have read conflicting reports about the Duratec engine being adequate or underpowered for such a large car.
Bearing in mind the Duratec isn't the world's smoothest engine, I would be concerned about the engine noise when the CVT box revs to get the vehicle going.
I have heard bad reports about the 6 speed box on other models, no manual overide for engine braking on a bend etc, so am not too keen on that.
If there are any owners or company drivers, then I would appreciate your comments.
Thanks.......
I have read so many conflicting reports about this car. some reports praise the CVT, others don't.
Similarly, I have read conflicting reports about the Duratec engine being adequate or underpowered for such a large car.
Bearing in mind the Duratec isn't the world's smoothest engine, I would be concerned about the engine noise when the CVT box revs to get the vehicle going.
I have heard bad reports about the 6 speed box on other models, no manual overide for engine braking on a bend etc, so am not too keen on that.
If there are any owners or company drivers, then I would appreciate your comments.
Thanks.......
tbjohn1
08-04-2006, 03:34 PM
I have driven a 2006 Ltd for the past four months. The CVT initially took some getting used to but I now appreciate its smooth operation. Power from the Duratec is adequate, but it can be a little sluggish when you are running the AC and need to accelerate quickly. I do find the engine noisy, especially when compared to previous Fords I have owned that came equipped with a Duratec, but no CVT.
Bertie4
08-04-2006, 04:12 PM
I have driven a 2006 Ltd for the past four months. The CVT initially took some getting used to but I now appreciate its smooth operation. Power from the Duratec is adequate, but it can be a little sluggish when you are running the AC and need to accelerate quickly. I do find the engine noisy, especially when compared to previous Fords I have owned that came equipped with a Duratec, but no CVT.
John:
Much appreciate your comments. Do you know if Ford offer an extended warranty for the CVT? I guess it would be under the title of Powertrain warranty.
John:
Much appreciate your comments. Do you know if Ford offer an extended warranty for the CVT? I guess it would be under the title of Powertrain warranty.
tbjohn1
08-05-2006, 05:54 AM
Sorry, I don't know about the warranty, but I have heard that Ford is offering a no-deductible, fully transferable powertrain limited warranty on 2007 Ford and Mercury vehicles that will now be five years or 60,000 miles.
Millermagic
08-05-2006, 08:19 AM
If you buy a three year old Five Hundred, you should be able to get Ford's Extended warrany ... I'm not sure what it includes, but I do know that it does have atleast a powertrain warranty.
The CVT in the Five Hundred uses a torque converter, from what I understand, the engine is mated to the CVT using a non locking torque converter. I have been following Five Hundred since they came out (thinking about one in a few years when the Taurus is done) and they don't really have meny problems with transmissions quitting. I have heard of a few AWD system problems. Being as now the Five Hundred is a fairly heavy FWD car, you may not need AWD if you live in the snow country.
The CVT in the Five Hundred uses a torque converter, from what I understand, the engine is mated to the CVT using a non locking torque converter. I have been following Five Hundred since they came out (thinking about one in a few years when the Taurus is done) and they don't really have meny problems with transmissions quitting. I have heard of a few AWD system problems. Being as now the Five Hundred is a fairly heavy FWD car, you may not need AWD if you live in the snow country.
ModMech
08-05-2006, 02:16 PM
I have driven the Five Hundred and the Freestyle both with similar V-6 engines and the CVT. They are adequately powered and the shifting is nice I think.
We have two Uncles with the Five Hundred and CVTs, they have had ZERO problems with the cars at all. Both are extremely happy with them.
A former Ford engineer claimed they are GOOD transmissions, but the fuel economy is not as good as with a 6 spd auto because so much power is gobbled up in the transmission's hydraulic pump.
My '04 Freestar (van) with the 3.9L and 5 speed auto gets 25-28 MPG highway, and I could see a Five Hundred with a 6 speed getting over 30 easily.
We have two Uncles with the Five Hundred and CVTs, they have had ZERO problems with the cars at all. Both are extremely happy with them.
A former Ford engineer claimed they are GOOD transmissions, but the fuel economy is not as good as with a 6 spd auto because so much power is gobbled up in the transmission's hydraulic pump.
My '04 Freestar (van) with the 3.9L and 5 speed auto gets 25-28 MPG highway, and I could see a Five Hundred with a 6 speed getting over 30 easily.
radioman2002
01-02-2008, 06:29 PM
My wife has had a 500se AWD for nearly 3 years now, with no problems. It does take some getting used to,the no shilfting and all, but I have found the car to be very smooth driving. In fact if you are not carefull you will find yourself going 85 mph and not realizing it.
Now I can't confirm this but I belive the design for the CVT is a VOLVO one. Very reliable.
Now I can't confirm this but I belive the design for the CVT is a VOLVO one. Very reliable.
reino134
01-23-2008, 11:24 PM
My wife and I have had a 2006 500 limited awd w/ cvt for about 1 1/2 years now have 15,000 miles on it and are very pleased with it. Sure, it could use a little more power from a dead stop but once you are rolling it does just fine. I would reccomend this vehicle to anyone
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