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Passport objections?


Echohawk
07-31-2006, 06:41 PM
Hello, I don't know much about the Honda Passports, but what i've heard from online sites they aren't that great. I am thinking about buying a Passport. Anybody wanna say something to help me decide whether it would be a smart chioce or not?

highlandlake
07-31-2006, 08:18 PM
Depends on what you need for a vehicle. If you need a smaller sized yet full frame SUV that is great at towing, good in the snow and pretty rugged off road - buy it.

If you have no maintenance history, or it shows signs of neglect keep clear of it. (But that goes for any vehicle)
Tom

Echohawk
07-31-2006, 09:04 PM
Actually I was kinda worried about the long term abilities. Is there gonna be any problems there?

highlandlake
07-31-2006, 09:16 PM
Welcome to AF Echo,

It seems that many folks here get over 200,000 miles out of these. There's a thread on this forum called 'how many miles on your Rodeo' that has had many replies including what sort of work was needed on theirs.

As you can imagine, by taking care of a vehicle and having it regularly maintained they can last a long time. There are exceptions, some cars crap out completely with less than 100k for no good reason. Some go for 15 years without needing practically anything more than brake pads and a new set of windshield wipers.

What are the details of the one you have an eye on? Year, engine size, transmission type, 2 or 4WD, major options?
Tom

Echohawk
07-31-2006, 10:17 PM
Thanks for the welcome.

I am assumeing that a Rodeo and a Passport are just about the same vehicle then? This certain 01 4WD Automatic Passport V6 is in the paper for about 8500 with 47k miles has had three owners already before me. That is my only worry. First a preist, then a rich lady, then to the guy who said she practically just gave it to him. He is selling because he is moving to Florida and needed a bigger car now that he has a family. Think it's a good buy?

Ramblin Fever
08-01-2006, 03:38 PM
I've had the luxury of owning 2 Rodeo's - yes, the Passport IS an Isuzu Rodeo.

I had a '91 4x4 and currently have a '97 4x2, both automatics - thoroughly loved both trucks, the '91 had over 150k when we traded it for an open bed p/up.

All it ever needed, aside from regular maintenance, was 2 sets of tires, a set of rotors, 3 sets of brakepads (hauled a boat), an alternator, and it's waterpump croaked at around 120k-ish or so.

The '97 Rodeo has had a harder working life then the '91, and is currently at 160k - it has gone through 2 alternators, 1 waterpump, a powersteering pump (unusual item though), 2 batteries, 3 sets of tires, only 2 sets of brakepads (original rotors, calipers, master cylinder). Everything else, mechanical wise, is original.

Just spent $$$ to have major tune-up performed, including 4 O2 sensors, all new hoses, belts, etc.

At 47k miles on an '01, that's a pretty good buy!

Just be sure to collect ANY kind of maintenance history - may not be much at only 47k miles; think all I had done on both Rodeo's at that point was a regular tune-up.

Hopefully they've had the transmission fluid changed at least one time, but if not, I wouldn't fret too much.

If you do take ownership, have that transmission pan dropped, and change the filter along with about 5 qts of new fluid. And keep doing it EVERY 30k miles if you're going for a full flush, or every 15k miles if your doing partial drain/refills.

I would not recommend a flush right now though, as you may not know the history. And do NOT allow that fluid to become old, low, or overheated if possible, and by all means, do NOT neglect this 4L30-E GM auto transmission. It will take care of you, IF you take care of it, i.e. regular fluid changes, the fixing of any leak, etc.

The engine on these trucks, i.e. 3.2L V6 is a pretty stout, strong willed piece. It is not the easiest engine to work on, half the problem is it's STUFFED into the little engine bay area - at least on the '97 Rodeo it is.

The 98-02 3.2L dohc models have a tendency to burn a bit more oil then the pre-98 sohc model years; but I'm not 100% familiar with the oil related issue. Some don't use any oil at all, but until you know for sure, be sure to watch that oil level like a hawk, i.e. every gas fill-up.

Some new owners are not aware that this is a *possibility* on the 3.2L dohc engines and tends to surprize them. I've heard the 98-99yrs are worse with the 01-02 yrs less likely, but it is known for the 3.2L dohc to use 1qt/1k miles.

Aside from that, these trucks are pretty bulletproof and they will go a long time - just keep a good eye on oil level until you've had it a while and get an idea of whether or not it uses oil, and maintain that tranny every 15-30k miles.

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