Possible way to wire?

Is it possible to wire interior neons to the button inside of the door near the hinges that make the interior lights go on? Basically turning the neons on when opening the door and shutting them off when closing the door, and also while wiring up a switch as well to turn them on/off?

yea just spice the sotck switch and run your wires through there, just wires yourself up a switch inline with it first, that way you got full rage. I can better explain it if you want

Please do in detail because I have NO idea what you just said lol, "stock switch" meaning the button thing inside the door? And I don't know what inline means when referring to wiring, I know nothing about wiring or electrical.

Ok heres one idea (and someone correct me if I am wrong) you could locate the push switch that is in the door that you are looking for and find the power wire. Then get yourself a three pronge switch, one will me ground the other will be hot and the other will be either acc. hot or some other name in other workds hot=red ground=black and the third pronge is green wire.

take and get a splicer and splice into the door switch and take the hot wire form there and take it to the hot side of the other switch, then take a ground wire and go from the switch to somewere metal, then take the power wires from the neon's and run to the green side of the switch. You can either ground the neons to something metal or run then to the same metal spot that you grounded the switch.

If this make any sense it should be if the switch is on then when you open the door the neon's will come on and the normal interior lights but when you turn the switch off (during the day i suppose) then the neon's will not come on but you will still have normal lights.

Does that help or are you still lost.

That is the easiest way to do it, there are a few other ways but this will get the job done

^yeah i pretty much think that would work. lance if you attempt this feel free to let us know how it works.

EDIT: just out of curiosity, how come you want to wire them that way??? why not save the trouble and hook them up to a toggle switch?

IMO it would be REALLY cool to open the doors up at night and have the whole interior light up red automatically.

I pretty much understand, can somebody send me a pic of what a splicer looks like? Yeah I know it's sad.

My goal was to have the neons light up when I opened the door and shut off when I close it, while having a toggle switch to turn on/off whenever, doors shut or open. Will this set up allow that? Or will the power totally cut off when the doors are shut?

IMO it would be REALLY cool to open the doors up at night and have the whole interior light up red automatically.

I pretty much understand, can somebody send me a pic of what a splicer looks like? Yeah I know it's sad. when you do a splice it pretty much means cutting into an exsiting wire so that its exposed and then sodering the new wire right to it.

My goal was to have the neons light up when I opened the door and shut off when I close it, while having a toggle switch to turn on/off whenever, doors shut or open. Will this set up allow that? Or will the power totally cut off when the doors are shut? yeah that would be pretty cool to have it all light up. im not sure if doing that setup would allow you to toggle the lights on an off once the door is shut. good question.

i meant the blue splicer thingy. You put the piece of wire thats going ot the switch in one side and the slide the other wire in teh other end and push this metal thing down. i'll have to find a pic

Hmm actually, i dont see why it couldnt work. Just would have to have 2 diffrent power sources. One being controled by the door switch, and the other being controlled by another switch. I dunno what that would do if they were both being applied at the same time, but thats what guess and check is for. hahah jk jk, im sure someone knows a way around it.

i meant the blue splicer thingy. You put the piece of wire thats going ot the switch in one side and the slide the other wire in teh other end and push this metal thing down. i'll have to find a picoh yeah yeah i know what your talking about. put the wires in each end then crimp them??

yea it's got a real technical name, but if you ask for the little blue wire splicer thingy

yea it's got a real technical name, but if you ask for the little blue wire splicer thingy

Oh yeah, I know what the crimper thingys are, I was thinking more along the lines of a T splice, so maybe I didn't get your entire How to afterall lol :lol:

Oh yeah, I know what the crimper thingys are, I was thinking more along the lines of a T splice, so maybe I didn't get your entire How to afterall lol :lol:yeah a T-splice is basically removing the rubber material from an exsiting wire so thats its exposed and sodering the new wire to it.

Well, I think I have the overall jist of it but if you can supply pics or a better explanation please do.

Well, I think I have the overall jist of it but if you can supply pics or a better explanation please do.so did you want a pic of what a splice looks like?? if so heres one
http://img140.imagevenue.com/loc457/th_85786_wire1_457lo.JPG (http://img140.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=85786_wire1_457lo.JPG)
EDIT: then you would just soder it and cover it with some electrical tape. :thumbsup:

hot=red ground=black and the third pronge is green wire
Is there definitly gonna be a red wire for power, a black wire for ground, or were those just examples? And the "green wire" will be any wire i choose to run from the neons to the acc prong on the switch?

Well, apparently they won't light up when the door is shut so I need a relay...i dont even know what a relay does or looks like lol

didn't know you wanted it that way

...what way? To light up even when the door is shut? I wanted it to light up automatically when the door is opened and then go off when shut, While being able to turn it on/off on my command by a toggle switch in the dash, wether or not the door is opened or closed.

oooooooooooooo I was confused I thought you wanted them wired to were they only came on when the door was open and the toggle was so that you could turn them off so during the day they wouldn't open when the door came open.

So how would I wire them then? lol

Your going to make me think. you could do some sort of double switch double wire them. I don't know much about relay's. Need someone else's input here

ok, i have been tracking this thread and I think i have a way to wire it. You will have to run a double wiring system. Connect them to the door so that they will turn on and off when the door is open. Then create a totaly new wiring system as if you were just going to control them with a toggle switch. the ground will still go to the ground, but on the hot wire supplying power to the neons, in between where you spliced to the door lights and the acctual neons, splice in a 12v power wire with a toggle switch on it, then for safety i would slice in a fuse farther up the stock neon power wire. I don't really know that much to know what will happen if the toggle is on and the doors are open. If you need a rough picture of this, i can draw it for you. This will allow the neons to come on when the door opens and go off when it closes, just like your dome light, but you can also turn it on and off when the door is closed. If you want to do that and turn it off when the door is open, simply splice in another toggle between where you sliced it to the door lighting wire and the first toggle switch.

Hope this answers your question. Get back to me if you need i simple diagram of either way. I can make it no prob, probably tonight

^you might want to make a diagram for this. probably help out a bit. at least for me it will :lol:

Ok, drew up the diagrams in autocad, saved them as jpgs and posted them on my cardomain page. They are in the order described, one toggle switch method first, two toggle switch method second. But i also just realized i forgot to put the fuse on, and i didn't save the actual drawing file. But you just add a fuse on the neon light power supply wire as as close as possible to the neons, so there are no wires splicing in between the fuse and the neons!!!
Here is the link http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2067526/2

feel free to Praise me if this is what you want.

ok, I was just looking at the diagrams and realized you probably SHOULD NOT use the first one with one toggle switch. the reason being because if you have the neons on and open the door, i don't know what will happen. if power surges to the neons, the fuse should blow, but then what happens to the power? does it loop back on the path or least resistance and go into the door lighting wires? The safe bet is to use the second one with two switches and always keep the opposed. If the one is in the on position the other should be off, always severing one connection before turning another on. So give me your feedback.

hmm correct me if im wrong but isnt the switch to the door the one that tells if its open or closed?

hmm you guys are making me think

:screwy:.......what if I just wired them up to the door button wires.....and then wired the neons up to a 3 prong toggle switch with the neons wired up to the acc., and wire the power prong up to a fuse in the fuse box or right to the battery, and grounded the ground?

Or what about wiring them to the interior light's wires instead?

you could wire them to the dimmer switch

As the second power wire, after wiring them up to the door switch, or are you saying scratch the door switch?

i am soooooo lost

i am soooooo lostI've been lost for awhile now :lol:

ok, lets try this again. in the diagram, the second one, when i refered to the "door lights power wire" thats the wire the dome lights run on. so when you do that, the neons are going to turn on with the dome lights. we will call this circut one. circut one is totaly complete, it has power, it has a ground. But you also want to control the lights manualy. so you make a a second circut. its pretty simple if you break it down this way. the second circut is wiring the neons up if you only wanted to manualy control them. So you wire them up with a switch in the power line. The only differance here is that both circuts, 1 and two, power the same thing. and use the same ground. I hope everyone is following. Its like two rivers running into the same lake. each river supplies water from the melting snow (car battery) but they take differant paths. now i sugested putting the second switch between the dome light wire and the 12v (from battery or fuse box) to act as a safety, so both circuts aren't running at the same time, because i don't know what that will do. It might not be needed, but unless you have a spair fues or dome light bulb and neon tubes, i wouldn't experiment yet. I don't know how else except for wiring it for you, which i am not doing unless you come to VA. This system will let the doors opening turn the neons on along with the dome light, when the "door switch" is on. It will also let you turn them on with the "contant 12v switch". But if the "contant 12v switch" is on and you want to open the doors, turn the "door switch" off to not overload the system