Bad news right before college....
MexRocket
07-29-2006, 05:18 PM
well, I have been away for awhile... I have been installing parts and working and what not, so little time, update: I have sportline suspenion blah blah, and megan DP with thermal racing cat back, and naturally, a test pipe. also got new rims, just stockers that are painted gunmetal. after the exhaust was installed, 2 days or so, I heard this terriable rattling noise.... well.... I thought it was the exhaust hitting something, so I put it on everysingle braket, still made the noise.
It only made this loud rattiling noise when it started and when I slowed down and it was reving under 1k.....
Well, Out of the 4 DSMS in a 2 house radius, 0 are running, thats right ZERO.... Ted's car ran it was all finished after the rebuild... guess what happend? Crank walk... yes crank walk.... EZ is putting a stroker kit in his 2g, and his 1G still is stripped of all engine componets and aftermarket stuff excluding the block.
Then there is mine... Drained the oil... no shaivings...... took the oil filter off and a moderate amount of copper and aluminum shavings in the paper crap.....
This means I have a couple of spun bearings, or just one, or a bent rod, or bent rods.... hopefully no crank damage, let me restate that. I HOPE THERE IS NO CRANK DAMAGE. but knowing my luck, Everything needs to get replaced,
Tonight I'll have some pics.... I get to take the xcase, exhaust, and oil pan off tonight... great fun huh? I really hope I didn't do any rod damage, I hope it is just a case of the people who rebuilt my engine using bad quiality bearings, and hopefully I can just replace those. I HOPEE!!! lol..
Oh and the best part, I have 2.5 weeks to figure this out... and get rides to work... or who knows what is going to happen to my car. update toinght
It only made this loud rattiling noise when it started and when I slowed down and it was reving under 1k.....
Well, Out of the 4 DSMS in a 2 house radius, 0 are running, thats right ZERO.... Ted's car ran it was all finished after the rebuild... guess what happend? Crank walk... yes crank walk.... EZ is putting a stroker kit in his 2g, and his 1G still is stripped of all engine componets and aftermarket stuff excluding the block.
Then there is mine... Drained the oil... no shaivings...... took the oil filter off and a moderate amount of copper and aluminum shavings in the paper crap.....
This means I have a couple of spun bearings, or just one, or a bent rod, or bent rods.... hopefully no crank damage, let me restate that. I HOPE THERE IS NO CRANK DAMAGE. but knowing my luck, Everything needs to get replaced,
Tonight I'll have some pics.... I get to take the xcase, exhaust, and oil pan off tonight... great fun huh? I really hope I didn't do any rod damage, I hope it is just a case of the people who rebuilt my engine using bad quiality bearings, and hopefully I can just replace those. I HOPEE!!! lol..
Oh and the best part, I have 2.5 weeks to figure this out... and get rides to work... or who knows what is going to happen to my car. update toinght
Blackcrow64
07-29-2006, 05:41 PM
Well, if anything did happen to your internals and you need rods and or pistons, I have a set of 1g rods and pistons and a set of 2g rods and pistons... Lemme know if you need anything man.
MexRocket
07-29-2006, 06:55 PM
are those brand new? or something, I can't put used shit in my car lol I just drained the oil pan again and filtered it with a paint filter..... I bet you I could make a mound about 1x.5x.5 inch tall of copper and aluminum shavings, it isn't getting any better... I think I might need a new xcase 2, there is oil on the exhaust and spray I think... update later again
ez1286
07-29-2006, 10:02 PM
Aaron, all i have to say is karma... remember how you made fun of me when my car broke? Teach your little bitch ass...
Blackcrow64
07-29-2006, 10:51 PM
No, they are used... Just thought it would help though if you needed quick parts. I also have an extra 1g tcase laying in the garage too. lol :)
If I sold half the extra parts I have laying around then I could probably have my car running by now. lol :p
If I sold half the extra parts I have laying around then I could probably have my car running by now. lol :p
Thor06
07-30-2006, 12:50 AM
Yay for 18 year old 1ga AWD DSM owners going into college and spinning bearings! We should start a fuckin club Aaron. :banghead:
MexRocket
07-30-2006, 01:39 AM
yah, but at least you have a garage to keep it, I need to get it running and travel to central michigan......
MexRocket
07-30-2006, 01:40 AM
yah, but at least you have a garage to keep it, I need to get it running and travel to central michigan......
MexRocket
07-30-2006, 01:59 PM
fucking double posts, the disassembly has been going smoothly, But I have a feeling im going to punch a rabbit if I see that more than the bearings are damagaed, There has been an intresting conversation between me and EZ, What if the 390's caused the damage? I mean it is full possible right? but I never and I mean never drove my car hard.... well I floored it in park once up to 8500 lolololol that is actually what might have done this, it hit fuel cut that is why I stopped lololo, I fucking suck..... ok people.... I need parts list...
MAKE SUGGESTIONS
Assuming there is no crank or rod damage.....
Bearings... what type?
DSMLINK
880's
DKS CAMS
Timing belt
PS belt
Altenator BELT
Intercooler Piping
1G NT TB ELBOW
2 2.5-3" reducers
Undercoating... (for harsh mich winters)
RTV for oil pan (black?)
TB GASKET
TB ELBOW GASKET
New plugs
New plug wires (what kind)
Slim fan (which brand is cheapest and flows well)
EDIT: Asuming there is xcase problems, when removed is there seals that I should replace or something?
Will update when further damage has been realized........ Please help if you have anything like this.... thanks
MAKE SUGGESTIONS
Assuming there is no crank or rod damage.....
Bearings... what type?
DSMLINK
880's
DKS CAMS
Timing belt
PS belt
Altenator BELT
Intercooler Piping
1G NT TB ELBOW
2 2.5-3" reducers
Undercoating... (for harsh mich winters)
RTV for oil pan (black?)
TB GASKET
TB ELBOW GASKET
New plugs
New plug wires (what kind)
Slim fan (which brand is cheapest and flows well)
EDIT: Asuming there is xcase problems, when removed is there seals that I should replace or something?
Will update when further damage has been realized........ Please help if you have anything like this.... thanks
Blackcrow64
07-30-2006, 02:47 PM
Clevite 77 bearings all the way man. As for the DKS cams, I donno if I would trust em or not just because they are not that big of a name yet. I went with the FP Comp cams. Magnacore wires are a really good replacement wire for our cars. You can order some slim line fans from summit and they are cheaper than buying those ones built into a shroud. The ones I'm talking about are like 12" fans that you buy in singles and then they mount threw your radiator. Very good quality I think for the price.
crunchymilk55
07-30-2006, 02:57 PM
so you floored an underfueled car to 8500.....knowing you had to keep it running???
MexRocket
07-30-2006, 03:33 PM
it was a joke? lol I like to make numbers bigger than they really were, I usually stop touching the gas when I see smoke.... Smoke usually comes out at 4-5k .... I can see smoke because My exhaust came out under my door for a period of time.... Ask ez If I ever took my car over 6K, I knew it was underfueled, thus, never drove hard, I needed time and money, But now that I have no time, money really isn't an object
MexRocket
07-30-2006, 03:36 PM
Oh I only need one fan, No A/C, there what, like 100 bucks? is there like a a website for the bearings? ( no time to search need to strip car) I'll go with the DKS, because the guy that owns FFWD is a really cool guy and knows his shit, and gives a year warranty on shit. These will be my last engine upgrades, so should I have oem Timing shit? or go kevlar?
Thor06
07-30-2006, 05:16 PM
Yes, mexrocket running those 390's probably fucked it up. Maybe not the reason for rod knock, but still. That means that you were getting roughly 87% of the fuel you needed. If I were good, I could tell you how much you leaned out by doing that, but I dont know the stock afr.
MexRocket
07-30-2006, 08:12 PM
FUCK, THe transfer case is fucking stuck on... how the fuck do you get it off? You are supposed to move it by hand and off the actually thingy, but I can't even pry the fucker off!!! I need all this shit off by tonight! Help ASAP
Thor06
07-30-2006, 08:53 PM
Do you have a Haynes manual? Did you undo all 4 bolts? Mikes came off nice and easy, I think you missed a bolt or two, those top two are hard to get at.
Blackcrow64
07-30-2006, 08:58 PM
I went with a kevlar belt on mine. Figure it'll take a little more abuse than an oem. Get a huuuuge prybar for the t-case or soak the edges where it meets the tranny with some PB blaster.
MexRocket
07-30-2006, 09:08 PM
Well, its 5 bolts thor, and yes I got all of them off, Im gonna go spray the edges with pb blaster and wait a couple min, thing is a son of a bitch
MexRocket
07-30-2006, 10:54 PM
pb blaster didn't work at all WTF why wont this come off!!!
crunchymilk55
07-30-2006, 11:07 PM
get 'em nice and hot, then spray it continuosly, then spray again and try
MexRocket
07-30-2006, 11:36 PM
uhhh get what nice and hot... and how do I get something nice and hot...can't start the and car remember... spray what and where..... what is it so godamn stuck?
Blackcrow64
07-31-2006, 05:01 AM
and how do I get something nice and hot...
Torch time! No joke. Thats what I had to use to heat up my wheel bearing enough to get the old one off when I changed it.
Torch time! No joke. Thats what I had to use to heat up my wheel bearing enough to get the old one off when I changed it.
MexRocket
07-31-2006, 10:48 AM
hmm what tempeture does oil need to get before it starts boiling
MexRocket
07-31-2006, 12:09 PM
I just called the dealership to see if I can still get the xfer case recall.... I can still get that, apperently my car was made in 1992? and it is a 91... and there is also a timing belt and cam shaft recall... what the fuck is that all about.... but I need the car runnning they said for the recalls to be done....
MexRocket
07-31-2006, 01:04 PM
they lied..... :( no recalls for me
MexRocket
07-31-2006, 01:47 PM
fuckers!!! someone needs to correct the tuners "how to" page because it is different with automatic cars, there is fucking 6 bolts..... not 5!!! when I found the 6th I was like fuck me in eye! and sure enough it slipped off, oh I would correct tuners but, they dont like yahoo emails...
Blackcrow64
07-31-2006, 05:29 PM
fuckers!!! someone needs to correct the tuners "how to" page because it is different with automatic cars, there is fucking 6 bolts..... not 5!!! when I found the 6th I was like fuck me in eye! and sure enough it slipped off, oh I would correct tuners but, they dont like yahoo emails...
Good to know... I wouldn't have guessed that autos used 6 instead of 5... Now you'll know for next time. lol :p
Good to know... I wouldn't have guessed that autos used 6 instead of 5... Now you'll know for next time. lol :p
MexRocket
08-01-2006, 12:29 AM
yah too tired to remove the cross member of the car to get oil pan off.... tommorow the pan is off.... oh I cant wait... lol
Killa
08-01-2006, 01:04 PM
town the car to the dealer,and make that SOB fix, my dealer is full of bull shit, they told me bring the car in, well I brought in and after 3 hours waiting, they told me the fucking tranmission tech is hurting stomuch, last 3 time I been, they alway have excuse, like the tranny guy off for today, and some time they told me, they cant call him to work. fire that SOB, make the dealer do something free is harder then climp up the sky. They told me bring back tomorrow :banghead: .
MexRocket
08-01-2006, 02:37 PM
If I replace the bearings, is the knocking going to go away? there wasn't many shavings in the pan...... like maybe 8.... but there was a ton in the filter and oil drain put together, I really don't have time to take crank and rod/pistons off... i got till the 19th... where is Kevin lol.... I really don't know what to do...
eclipsed at 3am
08-01-2006, 04:54 PM
ah, the plight of the lowly DSMer continues...
MexRocket
08-01-2006, 05:48 PM
well, my crank is fucked along with all the bearings.... the head is fine I guess, I guess im going to just get a build short block or something anyone know websites besides slowboy? that does short blocks.... I roughly have 1500 bucks to play with but Istill needs injectors and dsmlink
gthompson97
08-01-2006, 06:53 PM
Why don't you just install a new crank, a set of 2g pistons on 1g rods, and a new set of rings and call it good. That'll get your car up and running in the shortest amount of time with the smallest amout of expense.
MexRocket
08-01-2006, 08:16 PM
because in that process.. the engine needs to come out... and that takes time in it self, which I don't have, so I can take it apart one week, and then install the next week... then pray there isn't problems.. wooo
Blackcrow64
08-01-2006, 11:26 PM
because in that process.. the engine needs to come out... and that takes time in it self, which I don't have, so I can take it apart one week, and then install the next week... then pray there isn't problems.. wooo
Regardless of what you do the motor WILL have to come out at this point. If time is a problem then you better be spending all the time you do have in the garage pulling that thing out instead of making 20 posts a night in this thread. :2cents:
Regardless of what you do the motor WILL have to come out at this point. If time is a problem then you better be spending all the time you do have in the garage pulling that thing out instead of making 20 posts a night in this thread. :2cents:
MexRocket
08-02-2006, 01:00 AM
yah I know I have come to that conclusion, well I will be buying a long block from FFWD... dsmlink 1000cc complete gasket set, timing belt alt belt and ps belt.. and everything tommorow so, thanks for everyones posts, sorry to annoy you crow. lol i'll be taking engine apart tommorow.
Blackcrow64
08-02-2006, 08:36 AM
sorry to annoy you crow. lol i'll be taking engine apart tommorow.
You weren't annoying me, it was just the fact that you kept complaining about not having enough time to do this so the time you did have was being spent on here instead. Sorry if it came off as I was getting annoyed. Just pointing out to you where all that precious time was going. lol :icon16:
You weren't annoying me, it was just the fact that you kept complaining about not having enough time to do this so the time you did have was being spent on here instead. Sorry if it came off as I was getting annoyed. Just pointing out to you where all that precious time was going. lol :icon16:
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