1st kill with the FD! Opponent is...

A 2006 350Z (http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=562592#) with 780 miles on it! His car (http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=562592#) was bone stock. My car has Intake (http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=562592#) an catback. We start from a roll at 5mph an go. He immediatly pulls ahead for about a good car length or two. Then I start reeling him in by the end of second I'm half a car length ahead then by 3-4th I'm almost 4 cars (http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=562592#) by the end of the run I did 110 an finished with about 6-7 car lengths on him!

350Z's are slow.

well they arne't slow, but they just arne't competitive against v8 or turbo cars.

350Z's are slow.

They are ~ For an 06 I was dissapointed alot.

Anyway, bro, be careful with the street-racing. You are young, and even if you are a good driver, there are many other variables that are out of your control. Street-racing is probably the biggest reason why our precious RX-7's are becoming increasingly rare; it would suck to have your 3rd-gen. wrecked on the side of the highway, be it your fault or someone else's. If you like racing you should join the S.C.C.A. and compete in a real motorsport, and leave the street-racing for the posers.

They are ~ For an 06 I was dissapointed alot.

well slow is a relative term. you would walk a stock twin turbo Z just as bad. but if you look at everything thats out in the market this year from japan, the 350Z is quit beastly. its probrably the top 3 fastest straightline/handling car that you can buy new todya from japan.

yes i would wax one pretty bad too, but that doesn't make it slow. its all relative. the fastest cars to ever come out of japan came from the 90's then money wasn't an issue when developing those cars, thats why they priced themselves out of the market and became extinct.

Anyway, bro, be careful with the street-racing. You are young, and even if you are a good driver, there are many other variables that are out of your control. Street-racing is probably the biggest reason why our precious RX-7's are becoming increasingly rare.

It could also be because your rotary engines can't go 12 miles before you need an oil change, blow a gasket, or have some kind of mechanical breakdown...food for thought

lol sorry man couldn't help myself, had to take a shot

And 350Z's may not be fast, but a brand new one that hasn't been worn in yet, would be a tad slower then one with 10k...But don't sell your RX-7 short, those were made to compete with your 200ZX's and your Supras, who were ultimately made to fight Corvettes...

Anyways, nice kill

It could also be because your rotary engines can't go 12 miles before you need an oil change, blow a gasket, or have some kind of mechanical breakdown...food for thought

My rotary-engine has 100K+ miles on it and still eats RSX's for breakfast! ;)

My rotary-engine has 100K+ miles on it and still eats RSX's for breakfast! ;)

i believe it

My rotary-engine has 100K+ miles on it and still eats RSX's for breakfast! ;)

My 91 Maxima with 160K+ miles eats Prius' for breakfast, whats the point, you two have different classes of cars

My 91 Maxima with 160K+ miles eats Prius' for breakfast, whats the point, you two have different classes of cars

He's proving the milage and ability point...

He could've easily said my car has 100K+ miles(has it had any sort of rebuild Steve, just wondering)on it and still runs strong and hasn't given me any problems.

I guess I could've taken it wrong or taken offense when he said he eats RSX's for breakfast and calls 350's slow, kinda like hes dogging on the cars, which kinda annoys me when the cars aren't bad at all.

I did not mean to insult the 350Z or the RSX. Allow me to correct myself: the Nissan 350 is not particularly fast, and rotary-engines can be just as reliable as a Honda with a bit of tender loving care. ;)

HAHA, yea I got you man, its all good. Thats why I put in that part about me taking it wrong. I mean like Tat said, speed is all relative, so for someone driving around in a strong FD, those cars are gonna seem like lesser cars no matter how good they are, just like a Carrera or Ferrari owner would think the car next to his is inferior, including your FD.

Edit : and yes, when taken care of, although it does take a little more effort than other engines, 13B rotaries can be reliable, only problem is you can't buy them new so you have to deal with how the previous owner treated the car or have to go through a rebuild.

if a 350Z is slow, what is a stock Rx-7?

what is it, .2 .3 seconds faster in the 1320?

gimme a break, lets not over exagerate

low 14's and high 13's second cars are fast, they beat most cars on the road, until you start running into the LS1's lol

and yea it is true, the word fast is sorta universal with people

if a 350Z is slow, what is a stock Rx-7?


1.) The RX-7 is faster from 0-60 mph, and down the 1/4 mile, and through the slalom!

2.) My RX-7 is not stock. ;)

1.) The RX-7 is faster from 0-60 mph, and down the 1/4 mile, and through the slalom!

i obviously know this, i mentioned it in the same post you quoted me from

again, how much faster is it than the 350Z in the 1320? why do i choose the 1/4 mile, because in this sitiuation it was a straight race.

would you call your car stock slow?

Would you call your car stock slow?

Yes, LOL or saying this but a few little tweaks and you will be running ALOT faster. The stock air box restricts the hell outa the car. I spent 120$ on a nice used HKS breather intake and my car hauls alot more. Next is to replace the downpipe which will give it alot more pwoer as well. For a 350 to even come close you'd have to do alot more then intake an in his case headers.

if a 350Z is slow, what is a stock Rx-7?

what is it, .2 .3 seconds faster in the 1320?

gimme a break, lets not over exagerate


If you want to know why we put are cars on pedistals some times it's not the fact it's a rotary but the fact we have WELL over 200lbs on almost any serious car on the street. Let's see I raced an 06 which supposedly has a decent amount of more tranny work then the 05 as well as a 13 hp gain from 287 to 300.

Do the math...
06 350Z
Hp:300 (Crank)
Tq:275
CB:3330
VQ 6 N/a

93 Rx-7
Hp:Probably around 265-270 crank (Intake and Cat back and plugs) That's being generious...
Tq:220
CB:2650 - I was alot higher in the race probably 300+ Extra
13B-Rew = (Twin turbo rotary)

Oh yeah, the RX-7 has a higher top-speed too! So it is faster in all 4 areas of critique (0-60 mph, 1/4 mile, slalom, top-speed). Not to mention the '93 RX-7 is 13-year-old technology and it is being compared to a modern car; if we brought the '02 RX-7 Spirit-R into the equation there wouldn't even be a comparison.

LOL...

A spirit against an N/a 350 wouldn't even be the slightest of challenges.

My rotary-engine has 100K+ miles on it and still eats RSX's for breakfast! ;)

Too bad you'll burn all your oil and seize your engine up by the time you hit 35 mp/h...then my 130 lb-ft of torque a 7800rpm will walk to the finish line

:p

I kid I kid, I have much love for the RX-7

If you want to know why we put are cars on pedistals some times it's not the fact it's a rotary but the fact we have WELL over 200lbs on almost any serious car on the street. Let's see I raced an 06 which supposedly has a decent amount of more tranny work then the 05 as well as a 13 hp gain from 287 to 300.

Do the math...
06 350Z
Hp:300 (Crank)
Tq:275
CB:3330
VQ 6 N/a

93 Rx-7
Hp:Probably around 265-270 crank (Intake and Cat back and plugs) That's being generious...
Tq:220
CB:2650 - I was alot higher in the race probably 300+ Extra
13B-Rew = (Twin turbo rotary)

i spoke nothing of you thinking highly of your car, your suppose to, i love the car myself, actually i love all the twinturbo's of the 90's
many things that you speak of your car is similar to the vr4 and supra and 300zxtt and skyline

you answered one of my questions so i'll drop it...you do think your car is SLOW when stock
well i dont, my car is bpu'd and i still think when it was stock it was fast, its just faster now
but to each his own when it comes to the word fast

Too bad you'll burn all your oil and seize your engine up by the time you hit 35 mp/h...then my 130 lb-ft of torque a 7800rpm will walk to the finish line

:p

I kid I kid, I have much love for the RX-7

Not for anything but there's a Seven by me that has 132k originals miles not one rebuild or port job. It has been extremely well maintain an has a nice T51 (Kai) an runs high 10's I think that says alot Imo. I will get vids of the beast one of these days.

You do think your car is SLOW when stock
well i dont, my car is bpu'd and i still think when it was stock it was fast

No that's where your wrong. I take my car very seriously because I know the second I don't it can an will kill me. I'm 18 but I know with a power to weight ratio an Rwd with a twin turbo is plenty of enough stock for any 18 year old no matter how much experience. Yes, I have a few races here an there but I'm still very cautious of my cars power an potential. Trust me I know it's fast.

My only mods I'm doing to the car in the next 2 months are Odyssey 680 battery (it is about 1/3 of the size of the stock an kills about 20lbs. Remove the spare an put in a little slime 24oz thats another 40lbs gone. New Plugs HKS Iridium leading an trailing. 10mm igintion wires, new valvoline racing oil 20w/50 and new clean yellow breather filters (bought the intake with used dirty ones) and a nice 3 inch downpipe with a new 02 sensor as well. I have honestly no clue how much power/accel with 60lbs coming off & what decent numbers I'm going to gain off all of it... any takers?

would you call your cars stock slow?

Yes, LOL or saying this but a few little tweaks and you will be running ALOT faster.

You do think your car is SLOW when stock
well i dont, my car is bpu'd and i still think when it was stock it was fast

No that's where your wrong. I take my car very seriously because I know the second I don't it can an will kill me. I'm 18 but I know with a power to weight ratio an Rwd with a twin turbo is plenty of enough stock for any 18 year old no matter how much experience. Yes, I have a few races here an there but I'm still very cautious of my cars power an potential. Trust me I know it's fast.

were did we go wrong? we are missing eachothers points here. this is a miscommunication

you just agreed with what i've been trying to ask you the entire time, do you think your car stock is slow. your first post said yes, and your last post said no, trust you, you know its fast.

my point bieng, if your car is fast stock, how can a car that is .3 seconds slower be conidered slow?

If you like racing you should join the S.C.C.A. and compete in a real motorsport, and leave the street-racing for the posers.

Dude, this is the Street Racing forum. This is where people post street racing stories. If you think that we're posers then perhaps you should stick to the SCCA forums.

id have to agree with poly on this one ..... what kind of comment was that bro??? fuck i knew it im a riced out poser and a slow one at that:nono: .....u have to watch what ya say in in or you will get taught in a hurry daniel son lmao

This was very interesting to read and I would say that your Rx7 is a beast and you should be boasting about your car, I do it all the time and I drive a 2002 sebring LXI with only 200hp and weighs 2950 LBs. Hey jcsaleen go and get that next kill I wanna hear about it bro!!

nice kill bro....I love your car....third gen rx7 TT are sex to me....have you ever took your car to the track yet.....I raced one on the street about a few months ago and it was deffinately an honor to me...but unfortunatly for him the results werent good.....but it was still fun and the guy was deffinately a cool guy....