What would you get next?

i have a little extra change and i wanted to get either headers or the aem trupower pulleys. given that i already have a cai and exhaust, should i just get the headers to complete the package... or would the pulleys provide a bigger gain no matter what?

also, i wanted to know exatly what is an underdrive pulley? is it for a/t, stick or both?
heres what i saw
ud pulley (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1851016769&r=0&t=0)

I am just about ready to put on a powertech muffler onto my 93 honda accord ex. What I would like to know is can I just go from the stock 1 7/8 pipe right up to the 2 1/2" inlet on the powertech muffler? It has dual 4" tips. Is this overkill?

For strodda, I say go for the headers to complete the typical ihe package

For epic, You could get the larger inlet welded to the smaller pipe, but I suggest getting a catback system to avoid the extra time and money. And the dual 4 inchers is a bit much for the eingine and the amount of power it is producing. I would go for a nice single 3" tip with catback and 2.5 inch piping

if you want to save time and money, don't get a cat-back exhaust, they aren't exactly "cheap", well, for a descent one that is, and as for saving time, it can take someone about 5 minutes to instal almost any exhaust even with the pipe extensions.

As for the headers/pulleys, If it were up to me, I'd get the pulleys first, even though ive only heard of the hp gain (which could be depressing, like an intake can be), and I want to know how much of a difference there really is. and for a header, If it were me again, I'd buy one of those along with a cat-back exhaust, as from what i've physically heard, headers can sound raspy, unless you like that sorta thing. Killah Bees!!

yea, thats one thing im affraid of. i dont want the header to turn my car in to a lawnmower.

the pulleys would be cheaper, but does anyone know about how much to would cost to have them installed?

and as for the dual 4"... thats what i have. it might be a little big, but i think it looks nice. and i love the dual canister as opposed to the big can w/ 2 pipes sticking out of it.

Thanks for the advice guys. Yes I might as well save up for a decent catback system. But I have to admit I do like the look of the Powertech dual 4" tips. Sweeeetttt.
Here's another question for ya's
I have the auto tranny, and a couple of days ago the D4 light on the dash started flashing one night as I was driving through town, and continued to do so until I stopped and shut off the car and restarted it. hasnt happened since. I dont know why? Anybody??

not a clue, maybe something loose. but hey, if it aint broke dont fix it. just be happy now.

Definitely get the header. You get the most power out of your intake, header, and exhaust when all 3 pieces are present. They all work together not only to produce an overall HP gain, but to provide a good gain in your powerband.

Heres the facts.... The manifold on honda accords are very restricted especially the dex and ex models.... So a header fixes this... DC sports ceramic is the best for the money...the ceramic is simply to get rid of the exaust heat..... As for the cat-back exaust if you are going to stay all motor if you are less than 250 hp you can go with a 2.25"or less pipe... if you are going with N2O or turbo you need a bigger pipe size... the pipe size is what makes the difference.... The tips are pure looks...you can actually loose power if you go with to big of a pipe... if you have one 4" tip or two 4" tips the car can only make so much exaust and the pipe can only flow so much gas so as long as the tip is bigger than the pipe you are fine.... its the pipe and muffler that make the gas velocity or "back pressure"..... as for the sound of the exaust out of the honda's any of the 2.2L motors or bigger have the deepest sound but all will have the raspy bumble bee sound because you only have 4 cylinders...... you need to get the cat-back for your needs... RESEARCH.... Now the pulleys are going to do nothing but add power because they are bigger and lighter.... They spin faster and rev faster..... but the more you do to the motor first the more you will notice the difference... I would definately get the car breathing with intake header and exaust first then go from there!!! :)

thanks.
ive decided to get headers first. i know i should do it right the first time, but is there really a difference between dc and any random generic header. ive seen some on ebay such as obx sports, selling for 100-150, as you all know at least half the price of the dc's. so whats the diff?

also, i got an idea from another post(delsolsi) but he said i could take off the powersteering belt which would actually free up more power than the aem. it does more than lower power to the ps, it gets rid of it. im thinking about doing that just for fun, see how much of a difference i feel.

damn i learned a grip reading this thread. :bandit: gotta question......anyone know of websites that carry aftermarkets for all cars instead of specific cars? thanks

yea, try Options Auto Salon (http://www.optauto.com/webstore/)

thanks bro. check out the poll i put up :bandit:

already did mg, im the other 50%:D

and since im bored im gonna end with one more post. totally pointless. since its been brought to my attention that headers might make my car sound like a "bumblebee", im gonna post what it sounds like now(since i had already recorded it to help another guy out with how his intake sounds)
i like how the mic picked up the sounds. nice and deep, sounds hella mean:devil:

My Big Boomin' 2.2 (http://www.qubilent.com/~shane/images/AemIntakeSound.mp3)
...the mic is by the motor, not the muffler

later y'all, gotta get up early and work to pay that asshole visa

Originally posted by strodda
but is there really a difference between dc and any random generic header. ive seen some on ebay such as obx sports, selling for 100-150, as you all know at least half the price of the dc's. so whats the diff?
also, i got an idea from another post(delsolsi) but he said i could take off the powersteering belt which would actually free up more power than the aem. it does more than lower power to the ps, it gets rid of it. im thinking about doing that just for fun, see how much of a difference i feel.

As for the difference in the headers there is none as far as performance... but the cheaper headers don't last with the amount of heat that they deal with and then they crack.... and the cheap ones can have major problems if you get them wet like in the rain when the header is hot it will crack then also.... But the DC sports headers are not supposed to do that....
As for the power steering belt.. Just taking it off really doesn't do a whole lot except for make more torque steer because of no power steering and it is not very fun to drive in traffic.... I run at the track with the belt on and off and it only makes about a .050 diff in time in the 1/8 mile.... To me thats not worth gettin dirty for! :)

do they always crack, or is it just a little more likely? and i dont plan on ever getting them wet.

Its a gamble just like any thing else... It may or may not crack.... But I wouldn't want to spend the money on one that cracked and then have to buy another one when I could have paid the same money and got the good one first..... But you may buy the cheaper one and never have a problem.... And as for the getting it wet it will get a little water on it when your driving in heavy rains and runs through puddles in the road.. Just think you could buy a Mugen header for $900!!! Or get the DC sports for $350... Or the other guys for $250 or less... its all a matter of what you want!!! :)

Can I change my current SOHC VTEC 4cyl 2002 Accord to a DOHC? I already have an AEM cold air, DC Sports Ceramic Headers and a Tutsuto Fireball cat back. I am wondering if this will give me more rpms and more hp.

NO,,, o you know anything about engines. Its impossible, well nothings impossible if you have the money.but youre better off buying a new engine, like a h22,

Yeah, I would go with the header too! I wouldnt get the cheap ones, I went through this ame thing when I wanted some. I was looking at the same ones on ebay that you were talking about, but I did not want to make a mistake and get something that was crap like I usualy do with things. I know they DC makes some of the best out there, so I saved up and just too the hit for the better ones, I think that it was worth it! I got DC 4-2-1 Ceramics and they are great! Now that I have them, I wouldnt get anyhting else!

just one comment on the stock headers being restrictive,which that is not even the case, stock honda headers are already almost as good as a header for the car is going to get, honda's need small tubing for the intake plenums and exhaust manifolds, thats the way the engines are desined they have small tubes to get enough back pressure hondas need a certain amount of backpressure to run strong thats why running 3 inch exhaust and big piped headers kill all the power on these cars. dc sports and other manufacturers make good headers but they sacrafice on low end power, their piping is normally a little larger and it helps the car out on mid and high end but hurts the low end, the best senario to use these is for power gains thro the whole power band is with a built motor such as forged pistons, head work, lighter flywheel, pulleys or even if your going to spray nitrous, which will not hurt a f22 when used respectivly, becuase the f22's have low compression and strong blocks, u can spay a 75 shot all day long and long as u compensate for fuel in generous amounts, but that is how i noticed any other power gains out of an aftermarket header on a honda my stock header helped me more until i built my motor with 85.5mm wiseco pistons with a 3angle valve job and smoothed out the intake and exhaust ports, with a underdrive pulley 3" cold air intake and dc sports header, and 8 pound flywheel with a 75 shot to the motor, and u dont have to have forged pistons to spray that car. right amount of fuel for the shot your spraying and a air/fuel gauge so u can watch it, as long as u run ideal or rich no damage to the motor but maybe the every once in a while fouled spark plug.

Dude dont bring back old threads last post was over 3 years ago.

And also back needing back pressure is almost a myth you need little to none if any. Engines perform better when they breathe better, look at track cars they have no exhaust maybe a header and a conical diffuser.

Once again not to be a daick but dont bring back old threads.