FYI - future reference for wheel/rim info....
Ramblin Fever
07-25-2006, 07:38 PM
Found the PERFECT combination of wheels/tires for the 1st generation Rodeo.
After 9yrs, I finally had enough of the heavy unsprung weight of the OEM steel skinny 16x6 wheels and ditched them for the Blitz 16x8 wheels part#52082 from Discount tire.
These wheels have an offset of +25mm and mated to the 265/75 R16 tire looks great, with excellent handling, cornering, and soft ride. NO rubbing noticed as of yet, but the mudflaps were a given offender.
For more info, as I tried a few different rims at Discount Tire:
Predator wheels - Part #55025 (listed for Rodeo's) do NOT fit over the hub, thus won't work, it's an error on Discount tire's website.
Predator wheels - Part #55023 (listed for Passport's) DO fit over the hub, but they have a -6 offset and make the tire stick out about 1" or more. HORRIBLE rubbing stock, but can easily be trimmed back if you like the "tire outside the frame" look.
Blitz wheels were a bit too shiney for my initial preference, but didn't have many options, these big hubs are hard to fit. Looks like the tire sticks out 1/4-1/2" from the frame, looks nice and fills the wheel well.
After 9yrs, I finally had enough of the heavy unsprung weight of the OEM steel skinny 16x6 wheels and ditched them for the Blitz 16x8 wheels part#52082 from Discount tire.
These wheels have an offset of +25mm and mated to the 265/75 R16 tire looks great, with excellent handling, cornering, and soft ride. NO rubbing noticed as of yet, but the mudflaps were a given offender.
For more info, as I tried a few different rims at Discount Tire:
Predator wheels - Part #55025 (listed for Rodeo's) do NOT fit over the hub, thus won't work, it's an error on Discount tire's website.
Predator wheels - Part #55023 (listed for Passport's) DO fit over the hub, but they have a -6 offset and make the tire stick out about 1" or more. HORRIBLE rubbing stock, but can easily be trimmed back if you like the "tire outside the frame" look.
Blitz wheels were a bit too shiney for my initial preference, but didn't have many options, these big hubs are hard to fit. Looks like the tire sticks out 1/4-1/2" from the frame, looks nice and fills the wheel well.
highlandlake
07-25-2006, 07:53 PM
Sounds cool - got any pictures of the shiny new shoes?
TX-LS
06-09-2007, 06:59 AM
I know this is an old thread, but did you ever post any pics of your wheel setup? If not, could you?
Also, have you experienced any rubbing issues now that you've had them on for awhile?
Finally, how high did you crank your torsion bars, and how much alignment did you need for it?
Sorry for all the questions, but I'm wanting to do the same on mine, and hate reinventing the wheel (parden the pun)!
Thanks.
Also, have you experienced any rubbing issues now that you've had them on for awhile?
Finally, how high did you crank your torsion bars, and how much alignment did you need for it?
Sorry for all the questions, but I'm wanting to do the same on mine, and hate reinventing the wheel (parden the pun)!
Thanks.
Ramblin Fever
06-09-2007, 08:18 AM
No need for the apologies; I've had my truck 10yrs now and still try to research as much as I can about it.
I've been running this size tire for almost 2 1/2yrs; the rims I obviously only purchased a year ago.
With the OEM steel 16x6 rims, I very very slightly rubbed, not enough to warrant doing anything about, even with the stock suspension.
My primary reason for getting the wider wheels, 16x8, is because my tires were starting to crown on rims that were too skinny.
When I got the wider wheels, the front mud flaps were the only thing that the tires were catching - even the previous rubbing that I had was no longer an issue. Sounds a bit weird I know, but the 16x8 wheels fit the front end better then the OEM 16x6's did.
I have just VERY recently - in the last 2 weeks, started messing with the front torsion bars to match the new shackles I put on, I ONLY did this because I wanted too, I did not have too.
I ordered 1 1/2" over stock shackles from Calmini and those with a new set of bushings brought the rear up about 2" - so I'm wondering if they accidently sent me longer shackles then what I ordered. But that's ok too.
I had raised the front 1 1/2" a week ago - which equaled about 6 turns of the adjuster; but after putting the shackles on, the truck was leaning down in the front quite a bit. I do like the rake effect (rear being a tad higher), but not too much, so I cranked another 2 turns on each bar.
I just finished doing this yesterday and haven't had the time to really take it for a bouncy drive to help settle everything in - that's on the agenda today.
I never did post pics, just very recently got a camera and a computer that could do so; and the alignment, I know I should get that done asap - but everyone around here wants nothing less then $60, so it's gonna have to wait for beginning of July. However, it is not pulling in any direction, but considering I've never had an alignment (never needed one), I will finally do one and let you know then how bad it was out due to the torsion adjustment.
BTW - this info is related to my experience with the 1st generation Rodeo's; I'm not sure what year you have, but I do know that the 98+yrs have to do some mild cranking/adjustments before putting on 265/75 or 32" tires, whereas on the 1st gen, you shouldn't have too.
Keep me posted - I love hearing about other set-ups.
I've been running this size tire for almost 2 1/2yrs; the rims I obviously only purchased a year ago.
With the OEM steel 16x6 rims, I very very slightly rubbed, not enough to warrant doing anything about, even with the stock suspension.
My primary reason for getting the wider wheels, 16x8, is because my tires were starting to crown on rims that were too skinny.
When I got the wider wheels, the front mud flaps were the only thing that the tires were catching - even the previous rubbing that I had was no longer an issue. Sounds a bit weird I know, but the 16x8 wheels fit the front end better then the OEM 16x6's did.
I have just VERY recently - in the last 2 weeks, started messing with the front torsion bars to match the new shackles I put on, I ONLY did this because I wanted too, I did not have too.
I ordered 1 1/2" over stock shackles from Calmini and those with a new set of bushings brought the rear up about 2" - so I'm wondering if they accidently sent me longer shackles then what I ordered. But that's ok too.
I had raised the front 1 1/2" a week ago - which equaled about 6 turns of the adjuster; but after putting the shackles on, the truck was leaning down in the front quite a bit. I do like the rake effect (rear being a tad higher), but not too much, so I cranked another 2 turns on each bar.
I just finished doing this yesterday and haven't had the time to really take it for a bouncy drive to help settle everything in - that's on the agenda today.
I never did post pics, just very recently got a camera and a computer that could do so; and the alignment, I know I should get that done asap - but everyone around here wants nothing less then $60, so it's gonna have to wait for beginning of July. However, it is not pulling in any direction, but considering I've never had an alignment (never needed one), I will finally do one and let you know then how bad it was out due to the torsion adjustment.
BTW - this info is related to my experience with the 1st generation Rodeo's; I'm not sure what year you have, but I do know that the 98+yrs have to do some mild cranking/adjustments before putting on 265/75 or 32" tires, whereas on the 1st gen, you shouldn't have too.
Keep me posted - I love hearing about other set-ups.
TX-LS
06-09-2007, 09:32 AM
Great! Thanks for the detailed response. Yeah, I'd like a little bit more aggressive look, so I'm thinking of going with the 1 1/2" shackles and torsion bar adjustment as well. I've got a 2001 Rodeo 2WD (can't seem to get the signature to work) which already has the 16" wheels, but wanted something a bit bigger in tire size and width. I've got 255x70x16s on it now, but with your setup, it would increase the overall diameter by just over 2", and the width by almost 1". I think with the lift, this would be perfect, but wanted to make sure not to have any rubbing issues.
Please do post some pics if you can though, as I'd really like to see what those rims look like on the Rodeo.
Thanks again.
Ha,ha. Looks like I got the sig to work after all.
Please do post some pics if you can though, as I'd really like to see what those rims look like on the Rodeo.
Thanks again.
Ha,ha. Looks like I got the sig to work after all.
Ramblin Fever
06-09-2007, 11:00 PM
With your 2nd generation Rodeo, you'll need to do the lift prior to running 32" tires - IIRC; there will be rubbing on a 2nd gen in the front end.
I think the rear of a 2nd generation is lifted by longer coil springs rather then shackles - but I could be wrong; hopefully someone with a 2nd gen can step in and help.
The front of your Rodeo is the same, however, cranking the torsion bars is the same procedure. Make sure to spray those adjuster bolts with WD-40 several times prior to cranking them, makes it easier and loosens any gunk off the bolts.
I found mine VERY easy to turn, actually, considering it's a 10yr old truck - I expected to see them all rusted out and road gunk all over them, but I guess I've done a good job keeping the underbody cleaner then I thought.
I think the rear of a 2nd generation is lifted by longer coil springs rather then shackles - but I could be wrong; hopefully someone with a 2nd gen can step in and help.
The front of your Rodeo is the same, however, cranking the torsion bars is the same procedure. Make sure to spray those adjuster bolts with WD-40 several times prior to cranking them, makes it easier and loosens any gunk off the bolts.
I found mine VERY easy to turn, actually, considering it's a 10yr old truck - I expected to see them all rusted out and road gunk all over them, but I guess I've done a good job keeping the underbody cleaner then I thought.
Gizmo42
06-10-2007, 06:36 PM
Yea 2nd gen rodeos are coil springs in back. Pretty easy to swap them out and install the 3" lift springs.
You can still have rubbing issues on 2nd gen with 32's and 3" lift. We had to trim the fenders on Mikes '01 rodeo with 32x11.50 BFG's. His wheels are 15x8 with 3.75" back spacing. Looked like it would be fine till he tried turning, then it hit the fender (had to trim a bit of the front bumper too). The farther inside the wheel well you get the tire the less trimming you will have to do.
You can still have rubbing issues on 2nd gen with 32's and 3" lift. We had to trim the fenders on Mikes '01 rodeo with 32x11.50 BFG's. His wheels are 15x8 with 3.75" back spacing. Looked like it would be fine till he tried turning, then it hit the fender (had to trim a bit of the front bumper too). The farther inside the wheel well you get the tire the less trimming you will have to do.
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