My first muscle car!
Shpyder
07-16-2006, 05:37 PM
No. This is NOT why I'm getting rid of the Eclipse. Just in case you guys decide to eat me up.
I had been looking for a 1969 Oldsmobile Toronado for a very, very long time. And I finally found my mark. At present, there are only about 10 of these cars for sale anywhere in the US in drivable condition. I picked it up only 1 hour north of me, I cannot beleive my luck.
The vehicle has had two owners. No rust. It has the 455ci 7.5L V-8 :rolleyes:, and at present it seems that I could run faster than it can haul ass. But the V-8 rumble is to be heard, not mashed upon :p. So it's a "cruiser", hehe. Exterior, interior and the motor are in excellent shape, with 70,000 original miles on the car.
I got this beast from it's second owner who has had it since 1971. I was given all records of every single thing by the guy. He has taken immaculate care of the car, and everything ever done to it (including even at what mileage and date gas was filled, would you beleive!!!!) has been meticulously recorded by the owner. Oh and yeah, no smog required :smooch:
This car is worth around $17,000.
I got it for $4000. :icon16::icon16:
Soon to come: pearl black shiny ass paint job. 20's. 3" dual straight pipes. Butterflies that pop outta the hood. And ofcourse, 2 15" JL W-7s to play my shiz.
Oh yeah. And some fucker smashed the rear glass on my GT. Yep, that's it. Didnt steal a thing. Just broked the glass to bits. What's wrong with people??
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I had been looking for a 1969 Oldsmobile Toronado for a very, very long time. And I finally found my mark. At present, there are only about 10 of these cars for sale anywhere in the US in drivable condition. I picked it up only 1 hour north of me, I cannot beleive my luck.
The vehicle has had two owners. No rust. It has the 455ci 7.5L V-8 :rolleyes:, and at present it seems that I could run faster than it can haul ass. But the V-8 rumble is to be heard, not mashed upon :p. So it's a "cruiser", hehe. Exterior, interior and the motor are in excellent shape, with 70,000 original miles on the car.
I got this beast from it's second owner who has had it since 1971. I was given all records of every single thing by the guy. He has taken immaculate care of the car, and everything ever done to it (including even at what mileage and date gas was filled, would you beleive!!!!) has been meticulously recorded by the owner. Oh and yeah, no smog required :smooch:
This car is worth around $17,000.
I got it for $4000. :icon16::icon16:
Soon to come: pearl black shiny ass paint job. 20's. 3" dual straight pipes. Butterflies that pop outta the hood. And ofcourse, 2 15" JL W-7s to play my shiz.
Oh yeah. And some fucker smashed the rear glass on my GT. Yep, that's it. Didnt steal a thing. Just broked the glass to bits. What's wrong with people??
http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/4074/69toro455ci23lh4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/1530/69toro455ci20bl9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/9541/69toro455ci15wh7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
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http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/3136/69toro455ci8fk0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7684/69toro455ci7ob5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img312.imageshack.us/img312/4004/69toro455ci6kt4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Thor06
07-16-2006, 05:42 PM
Fuckin bastard. ;) Looks very clean, and you sure as hell got a good deal on it. What are you going to do with that 455?
Shpyder
07-16-2006, 05:45 PM
What are you going to do with that 455?
Lots o'shiz. Eventually :p
Lots o'shiz. Eventually :p
vanilla gorilla
07-16-2006, 05:49 PM
Wow, I never would have guessed. Good deal on it though. I can't blame you for wanting to go oldschool. After riding in my friend's 400hp small block Nova and his who-knows-how-many-horsepower LT1 Camaro, I want to build me a muscle car. My step dad is a big mustang fan and I have been trying to convince him to fund me to build a fox body mustang (even though I hate fords) and do a small block Chevy Swap, to tear up the 1/8. Your project sounds cool. But if that car is in really good condition and there are only 10 of them, I wouldn't dare mod it. I say restore, but its your car.
Hey, how can you afford to buy that but you can't afford to keep the Spyder? :screwy:
Hey, how can you afford to buy that but you can't afford to keep the Spyder? :screwy:
Thor06
07-16-2006, 05:53 PM
A 350 in a fox body? Is you crazy?
Shpyder, hows the paint? It looks damn good from here, I dont think I would repaint it if I were you. Some 20's are a must though. Did that tow truck guy buy your Spyder?
Shpyder, hows the paint? It looks damn good from here, I dont think I would repaint it if I were you. Some 20's are a must though. Did that tow truck guy buy your Spyder?
G-man422
07-16-2006, 05:55 PM
OMG!!!!!! Thats BEAUTIFUL! greAT FIND.
Shpyder
07-16-2006, 06:01 PM
Hey, how can you afford to buy that but you can't afford to keep the Spyder? :screwy:
I bought the Toro because that is a once in a life-time deal. I could afford $4000 for that any day. The spyder was heavy on maintenence, plus I needed the cash for UC next semester, just in case FinAid didnt help me out. And mine loved breaking down everywhere. The clutch just went rather abruptly, with 3000 miles on it. I got stranded in the middle of a busy high street. I think it wasnt adjusted right. Funnily enough, the towtruck driver has offered me $12,000 for it. He's coming to have a look this Tuesday.
Anyway. Old school muscle has it's own charm. These classics are awesome to look at, and a joy to drive around town. I bought this with different priorities; it's not going to be a track car or a fast car. Just a badass looking and badass sounding cruiser for Saturday nights. Eventually. DSMs are for sale everywhere, that's a good thing, since I can get back into the game any time. But these Toros, especially the 68-69 years, are balls out hard to find. I am convinved that this has to be perhaps the best looked-after Toro out there.
Thor06, I was just thinking that too; the paint is excellent, and I should do that last. It was repainted in 1980 by the guy, because he wanted gunmetal gray instead of it's original color. He was a nutty enthusiast kinda fellow, and knew everything about these cars. I think he sold it to me because I did my research on these cars,and was blurting out everything I knew about them, and he seemed very impressed. He probably let me have it because he knew I would take good care of it. It's just so beautiful to look at. It's a whole different experience with these cars altogether. But I sure as hell want those chromed out butterflies popping out of the hood, hot rod style. Man, that would look killer!!
I bought the Toro because that is a once in a life-time deal. I could afford $4000 for that any day. The spyder was heavy on maintenence, plus I needed the cash for UC next semester, just in case FinAid didnt help me out. And mine loved breaking down everywhere. The clutch just went rather abruptly, with 3000 miles on it. I got stranded in the middle of a busy high street. I think it wasnt adjusted right. Funnily enough, the towtruck driver has offered me $12,000 for it. He's coming to have a look this Tuesday.
Anyway. Old school muscle has it's own charm. These classics are awesome to look at, and a joy to drive around town. I bought this with different priorities; it's not going to be a track car or a fast car. Just a badass looking and badass sounding cruiser for Saturday nights. Eventually. DSMs are for sale everywhere, that's a good thing, since I can get back into the game any time. But these Toros, especially the 68-69 years, are balls out hard to find. I am convinved that this has to be perhaps the best looked-after Toro out there.
Thor06, I was just thinking that too; the paint is excellent, and I should do that last. It was repainted in 1980 by the guy, because he wanted gunmetal gray instead of it's original color. He was a nutty enthusiast kinda fellow, and knew everything about these cars. I think he sold it to me because I did my research on these cars,and was blurting out everything I knew about them, and he seemed very impressed. He probably let me have it because he knew I would take good care of it. It's just so beautiful to look at. It's a whole different experience with these cars altogether. But I sure as hell want those chromed out butterflies popping out of the hood, hot rod style. Man, that would look killer!!
AbsoluteGTR
07-16-2006, 06:11 PM
MY GOD! You are one lucky son of a bitch. To find one that is that meticuously cared for is unbelievable.
I would not mod it at all...just some rims and maybe exhaust...but keep all stock/original parts!
Lucky bastard.
I would not mod it at all...just some rims and maybe exhaust...but keep all stock/original parts!
Lucky bastard.
Killa
07-16-2006, 06:15 PM
To be honest I love american muscle car too, even mustang ( old style not 90-04 ), and one day I love to own a black 69 El Camino, or black Chevy SS. BTW congrat on your new car man, I love the way it look, yes black will make it stand out mean !!. But that factory paint still look good to me from the pix.
Killa
07-16-2006, 06:17 PM
MY GOD! You are one lucky son of a bitch. To find one that is that meticuously cared for is unbelievable.
I would not mod it at all...just some rims and maybe exhaust...but keep all stock/original parts!
Lucky bastard.
I rather keep every thing regional.
I would not mod it at all...just some rims and maybe exhaust...but keep all stock/original parts!
Lucky bastard.
I rather keep every thing regional.
clipsekid99
07-16-2006, 06:26 PM
Congrats on the new car, it looks pretty damn sweet! But, IMHO, you're just digging your financial grave even deeper man. Oh well, not my decision. Have fun with it, it prolly won't break down on you lol.
Oh ya, didn't Jay Leno like build one of these and twin turbo it? I think I saw it on the TLC show "Rides".
Oh ya, didn't Jay Leno like build one of these and twin turbo it? I think I saw it on the TLC show "Rides".
AbsoluteGTR
07-16-2006, 06:38 PM
Oh ya, didn't Jay Leno like build one of these and twin turbo it? I think I saw it on the TLC show "Rides".
Yea I saw that...It had like 1000+ HP. Jay Leno is a badass-lucky motherfucker.
Furthermore, I am sure that v8 LOVES the gas, so clipsekid is right about your financial issue...and I am sure you are going to wantto insure for around $20K.
Yea I saw that...It had like 1000+ HP. Jay Leno is a badass-lucky motherfucker.
Furthermore, I am sure that v8 LOVES the gas, so clipsekid is right about your financial issue...and I am sure you are going to wantto insure for around $20K.
4g63gst20
07-16-2006, 07:58 PM
yeah i think you should just restore it and in a few years you can get some good money if you sold it.
vanilla gorilla
07-16-2006, 08:03 PM
yeah i think you should just restore it and in a few years you can get some good money if you sold it.
:1: Barret Jackson?
:1: Barret Jackson?
vanilla gorilla
07-16-2006, 10:43 PM
A 350 in a fox body?
Whats wrong with that? :eek7:
Is you crazy?
Why yes,.....yes I am.
Whats wrong with that? :eek7:
Is you crazy?
Why yes,.....yes I am.
Thor06
07-16-2006, 11:02 PM
:lol: Is there something wrong with putting a B16A2 in my Talon? ;)
I think anyone with a DSM in their name is atleast a little crazy. :)
I think anyone with a DSM in their name is atleast a little crazy. :)
l_eclipse_l
07-16-2006, 11:04 PM
Car looks tite man. Have fun getting 12 mpg at best with that thing though lol.
vanilla gorilla
07-16-2006, 11:45 PM
:lol: Is there something wrong with putting a B16A2 in my Talon?
Dude, that would be awesome. I say go for it.
Dude, that would be awesome. I say go for it.
ned032002
07-16-2006, 11:55 PM
Nice find, you really lucked out on that one.
crunchymilk55
07-17-2006, 12:05 AM
ummm....
financial issues, enough to warrant selling your DSM, then this? Anyone else thinking what the...?
financial issues, enough to warrant selling your DSM, then this? Anyone else thinking what the...?
Blackcrow64
07-17-2006, 12:09 AM
You need some nice chrome 18's for the car. 5 stars... Mmmm That thing would look badass then.
Shpyder
07-17-2006, 03:36 AM
Have fun getting 12 mpg at best with that thing though lol.
10, actually :icon16:
It took $65 to fill up the 22 gallon tank. Tank was half empty after driving 100 miles. :grinno:
I wasnt going to buy anything after I sold the spyder. But as I said before, I wouldve sold my butt to get that $4000 for this baby. People are selling junk Toros for triple that amount.
10, actually :icon16:
It took $65 to fill up the 22 gallon tank. Tank was half empty after driving 100 miles. :grinno:
I wasnt going to buy anything after I sold the spyder. But as I said before, I wouldve sold my butt to get that $4000 for this baby. People are selling junk Toros for triple that amount.
defiancy
07-17-2006, 05:04 AM
No 351w is the best ford engine available. If you are talking engines and mustangs you can't not talk about that.
l_eclipse_l
07-17-2006, 10:41 PM
10, actually :icon16:
It took $65 to fill up the 22 gallon tank. Tank was half empty after driving 100 miles. :grinno:
I wasnt going to buy anything after I sold the spyder. But as I said before, I wouldve sold my butt to get that $4000 for this baby. People are selling junk Toros for triple that amount.
HAHAHAH wow...well I was close.
22 gallon tank? WHOLLY SHIT SON. What a waste of space and weight, but I guess when your getting such horrible fuel economy you need that oil tanker in the back.
$4k for that car is crazy cheap. Don't let people tell you that you were dumb for buying it, you could turn around and sell it for triple like you said. If you wanted, you could even use that car to dig yourself out of the hole with the shypder...but I don't think you'd have the heart to do it lol.
It took $65 to fill up the 22 gallon tank. Tank was half empty after driving 100 miles. :grinno:
I wasnt going to buy anything after I sold the spyder. But as I said before, I wouldve sold my butt to get that $4000 for this baby. People are selling junk Toros for triple that amount.
HAHAHAH wow...well I was close.
22 gallon tank? WHOLLY SHIT SON. What a waste of space and weight, but I guess when your getting such horrible fuel economy you need that oil tanker in the back.
$4k for that car is crazy cheap. Don't let people tell you that you were dumb for buying it, you could turn around and sell it for triple like you said. If you wanted, you could even use that car to dig yourself out of the hole with the shypder...but I don't think you'd have the heart to do it lol.
Thor06
07-17-2006, 10:45 PM
Yeah word. I dont know about anyone else, but cars are like good, good friends to me. I couldnt part the Talon, it would hurt inside too much you know? Man I feel all emo now, I think I need to go watch Rambo, some porn, or something to get my balls back :icon16:.
MexRocket
07-18-2006, 12:22 AM
Sell that for the real value of the car, save up for something you need in life, your what 42 shpyder? =) just messin with you, that is a steal for what you got it for.
real_madridcf
07-18-2006, 04:48 PM
Congrats on the new car! Im sure you will enjoy it...
Shpyder
07-18-2006, 04:59 PM
your what 42 shpyder? =)
23 today. :)
BTW, I just cut the mufflers on that thing, so I'm running a straight pipe. :iceslolan You can hear this thing from a block away.
23 today. :)
BTW, I just cut the mufflers on that thing, so I'm running a straight pipe. :iceslolan You can hear this thing from a block away.
G-man422
07-18-2006, 05:01 PM
^ Awesome!
Thor06
07-18-2006, 05:06 PM
I think you need an RB26DETT in that thing like the Mustang on F&FTD ;).
vanilla gorilla
07-18-2006, 09:01 PM
Damn, theres no way I could have cut the mufflers off of that thing. Maybe unbolted the exhaust system and replaced it so that it could later be returned to stock if you sell it.....I just don't have the balls to mollest an original and valuable old school.
vanilla gorilla
07-18-2006, 09:06 PM
Yeah word. I dont know about anyone else, but cars are like good, good friends to me. I couldnt part the Talon, it would hurt inside too much you know?
Dawg, I am the same way. To me cars are more than "just cars". Thats why I get so pissed when someone asked about what to do with their car, and other people are so quick to say "Just sell the damn thing, its just a car". Makes me want to hit someone in the mouth.
Dawg, I am the same way. To me cars are more than "just cars". Thats why I get so pissed when someone asked about what to do with their car, and other people are so quick to say "Just sell the damn thing, its just a car". Makes me want to hit someone in the mouth.
Shpyder
07-18-2006, 10:03 PM
I just don't have the balls to mollest an original and valuable old school.
Well, I do. :icon16: I'll keep all the stock parts ofcourse. But this baby won't be getting any more upgrades for a while till university is almost over. Some nice deep dish 19's or 20's, glasspacks and 2 15" JL w-7s :grinno:
Well, I do. :icon16: I'll keep all the stock parts ofcourse. But this baby won't be getting any more upgrades for a while till university is almost over. Some nice deep dish 19's or 20's, glasspacks and 2 15" JL w-7s :grinno:
vanilla gorilla
07-18-2006, 10:12 PM
Your a better man than I am.
BTW: Glass packs are oldschool, but I'll tell you what would be oldschool and different. Purple Hornie's, cuh!
http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?N=115+302975&D=302975
Good choice with the w7's BTW, they get off!
BTW: Glass packs are oldschool, but I'll tell you what would be oldschool and different. Purple Hornie's, cuh!
http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?N=115+302975&D=302975
Good choice with the w7's BTW, they get off!
gthompson97
07-19-2006, 12:26 AM
I think you're going a little overboard with the 15" w7. Have you ever heard a w7? I've heard ONE 10" and I swear it was going to blow out the windows in my buddies Honda. I bet it would sound like shit in that car, it would rattle more than you'd get sound. I think some 12" w6v2's would be more suitable for something like that.
Shpyder
07-19-2006, 12:30 AM
I bet it would sound like shit in that car, it would rattle more than you'd get sound.
I would tihnk it would be the other way round, since the trunk is pure steel, and rather massive. Some simply dynamatting should cure any rattle.
I would tihnk it would be the other way round, since the trunk is pure steel, and rather massive. Some simply dynamatting should cure any rattle.
gthompson97
07-19-2006, 12:32 AM
I'm not talking about just the rattle from the outside in the trunk, I've heard some big systems in older cars and everything rattles because it's all steel, the doors, the roof, literally EVERYTHING. And honestly, what do you need that much bass for anyways? Have you ever heard a w7? You would probably have to spend $500+ on just dynamat to get it to sound half decent.
Thor06
07-19-2006, 01:14 AM
I am not big on those JL's. I would suggest Eclipse's, they bump good. The Aluminums are alright, but the Titaniums sound fucking amazing and are loud as fuck. A buddy has 2 12's, they are fucking amazing.
-Josh-
07-19-2006, 08:28 AM
That looks sweet, where do you find all these clean cars!? You're seriously making me hate you...lol
Shpyder
07-19-2006, 12:42 PM
That looks sweet, where do you find all these clean cars!? You're seriously making me hate you...lol
haha. My family and friends in the local vicinity cannot believe that I picked this up for only $4000. Then, I took it to my mechanic, who raised it, and had the fuck surprised outta him when he found no rust anywhere.
I had been looking for a 1969 Toro for a while now. I think it's the baddest looking muscle car out there. I came accross this in the classic autotrader mag. Picked the car up the next morning. :icon16: It's sow as balls though. Plus, you can literally watch the fuel guage go down while you mash on the gas, lol.
haha. My family and friends in the local vicinity cannot believe that I picked this up for only $4000. Then, I took it to my mechanic, who raised it, and had the fuck surprised outta him when he found no rust anywhere.
I had been looking for a 1969 Toro for a while now. I think it's the baddest looking muscle car out there. I came accross this in the classic autotrader mag. Picked the car up the next morning. :icon16: It's sow as balls though. Plus, you can literally watch the fuel guage go down while you mash on the gas, lol.
Thor06
07-19-2006, 07:04 PM
Its got a 455 and its slow? How'd late 60's auto engineers manage that one?
G-man422
07-19-2006, 07:06 PM
Is it that heavy?
l_eclipse_l
07-19-2006, 07:50 PM
Its got a 455 and its slow? How'd late 60's auto engineers manage that one?
Back then they didn't believe in tuning...mostly because they couldn't.
Back then they didn't believe in tuning...mostly because they couldn't.
Shpyder
07-19-2006, 11:05 PM
Its got a 455 and its slow? How'd late 60's auto engineers manage that one?
:rofl:
That's what I was thinking. It must weigh a lot, but the motor seems really weak for a 7.5L V-8. Like, really slow...even the pull on this thing is lame. I'm guessing the compression, exhaust, plugs/wires and the intake need to be rejuvinated to make it what it used to be. It has been driven about 60 miles a YEAR since 1984. I'm thinking age is a factor to the inadequacy of the motor, because the old guy I bought it off said it used to shred tires when you floored it back in the day :p. But, I've found a new joy with muscle cars. I'm perfectly fine just cruising at low speeds around the block, with that insane V8 rumble, getting thumbs up from everyone. It draws looks almost as much as the spyder did, if not more. But that having been said, I can't wait to restart the shpyder project once I'm outta school. Guaranteed baby, don't you guys worry about that;)
:rofl:
That's what I was thinking. It must weigh a lot, but the motor seems really weak for a 7.5L V-8. Like, really slow...even the pull on this thing is lame. I'm guessing the compression, exhaust, plugs/wires and the intake need to be rejuvinated to make it what it used to be. It has been driven about 60 miles a YEAR since 1984. I'm thinking age is a factor to the inadequacy of the motor, because the old guy I bought it off said it used to shred tires when you floored it back in the day :p. But, I've found a new joy with muscle cars. I'm perfectly fine just cruising at low speeds around the block, with that insane V8 rumble, getting thumbs up from everyone. It draws looks almost as much as the spyder did, if not more. But that having been said, I can't wait to restart the shpyder project once I'm outta school. Guaranteed baby, don't you guys worry about that;)
vanilla gorilla
07-19-2006, 11:46 PM
Oh, so you didn't sell it? Or did you? I may have missed something here.
DavenportCustoms
07-20-2006, 01:35 AM
Im a Musclecar to import guy myself. My first car was a rumbling 70 GTO. Sold it a few months back so I can get more into sportbikes. I loved and hated the car. Sounded great, but It didnt move well. Great score though! Toronados are AMAZING cars to look at. The lines run so well, blend perfectly to a clean exterior. Sexy.
Correct me if im wrong, but I could have sworn that the toronado was FWD. I know it has the massive 455, but I swore it was a 3 speed auto transaxel. :screwy:
Correct me if im wrong, but I could have sworn that the toronado was FWD. I know it has the massive 455, but I swore it was a 3 speed auto transaxel. :screwy:
Shpyder
07-20-2006, 03:46 AM
I could have sworn that the toronado was FWD. I know it has the massive 455, but I swore it was a 3 speed auto transaxel. :screwy:
You are correct. It was pioneering marvel at the time it came out with the FWD, since the motor sits transverse, seeming like it RWD, but is actually a FWD. The only reason why I got a Toronado was because, as you said, the lines are just amazing; there's nothing like it on the road. I was going to go with a 66 GTO as a second choice, if I did not find a Toro, but I'm lucky I did. If it's just a nice looking and cool sounding weekend cruiser, I'm not really bothered with it being FWD.
You are correct. It was pioneering marvel at the time it came out with the FWD, since the motor sits transverse, seeming like it RWD, but is actually a FWD. The only reason why I got a Toronado was because, as you said, the lines are just amazing; there's nothing like it on the road. I was going to go with a 66 GTO as a second choice, if I did not find a Toro, but I'm lucky I did. If it's just a nice looking and cool sounding weekend cruiser, I'm not really bothered with it being FWD.
Shpyder
07-20-2006, 03:48 AM
Oh, so you didn't sell it? Or did you? I may have missed something here.
It's getting a clutch :disappoin. As soon as that's done, it's gonna hit autotrader with a vengeance. Let's see what fate has in store!
It's getting a clutch :disappoin. As soon as that's done, it's gonna hit autotrader with a vengeance. Let's see what fate has in store!
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